Wedding of William and Catherine: Suggestions and Musings


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From the Telegraph today regarding bridesmaid and pages :
A senior royal source said of the list: “It was completely the couple’s decision. There was no pressure on them from anyone else in the family to choose anyone in particular.
“All of the bridesmaids and page boys are the children of people Catherine has known for many years and counts as her own friends.”
The source pointed out that Miss Middleton, 29, “comes from a much smaller family than Prince William”, meaning she has few relations whose children are the appropriate age.
The royal insider also added that there would be “roles for other children that are entirely private”. Miss Middleton’s mother, Carole, the daughter of a builder, has an extended family in west London, with whom she has had little contact since she married in 1980. They include an aunt and a cousin living in Southall and a great aunt who will celebrate her 100th birthday in May. Relations have blamed the rift on a falling-out between Mrs Middleton’s mother and other members of the family in the 1970s.
Among the children who could be given a behind-the-scenes role is Miss Middleton’s 10-year-old cousin, Tallulah, the daughter of her uncle, Gary Goldsmith, 46. Mr Goldsmith, Mrs Middleton’s only brother, embarrassed the Middleton family when he was filmed offering cocaine to an undercover reporter two years ago. But it is understood he that is likely to be invited to the wedding after being forgiven by his sister.
Like Miss Middleton, Diana, Princess of Wales, had only one bridesmaid from her “side”, five-year-old Clementine Hambro, her favourite pupil at the Young England kindergarten in Pimlico, London, where she taught.
 
The ring is a recycled blue sapphire which brought Diana nothing but sorrow and I do not understand if catherine is going to become her own person to paraphrase Wills why he would give and she would accept the ring of his mother whose jewel is considered bad luck.

Whilst I too was not keen to see Diana's ring on Catherine's finger, I really do not see how it "brought Diana nothing but sorrow". Sure the ring was a potent symbol of the relationship between C & D, but it certainly was not the only symbol. Also, I am sure, as in every relationship, there were good and bad times, so perhaps the connection to the ring bringing bad luck or bringing nothing but sorrow is probably not as strong as suggested.
 
In regards to the discussion of the ring and its "influence" suddenly I believe that we are not discussing the wedding of William and Catherine instead what is being discussed sounds like an aspect of J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings.
 
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I agree; we should stick to the topic before we wander off again. It is heading towards semi-Lord of the Rings.
 
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So far the ring belonged to his mum and 7 of the 8 main wedding attendants come from his family/friends. IMO this isn't normal, or at the very least, it's not a balanced state of affairs and can't bode well for the future.

Sorry but how do the wedding attendants have any bearing on their future married life? It's not like they are using the same wedding attendants as Diana and Charles. Who else are they supposed to use if not these people?
 
I don't believe that the blue sapphire brought about a bad marriage. The two individuals in the marriage both played a part in the downfall.

Agreed! How can a jewel possibly be bad luck?
It's gemstone and metal, and that's all.
I believe people should go out of their way to debunk ridiculous superstitions.

I do think Kate will have to yield in some things, because of William's position. That isn't somehing that is going to change.
But they have been together for nearly a decade, and by this time they should both know what they're getting.
 
Dear angela,
I was told by another member to go back to the Monaco forum and bash Charlene and Albert because I too sensed something was off balance here and it was considered being nasty..

I don't understand why people would encourage each other to "bash" in a Royal Forum. We can all have our opinions about their choices, however in the end Royals are real people that are entitled to happiness and love like the rest of us.

The ring is a recycled blue sapphire which brought Diana nothing but sorrow and I do not understand if catherine is going to become her own person to paraphrase Wills why he would give and she would accept the ring of his mother whose jewel is considered bad luck..

The "ring" is a beautiful sapphire and had nothing to do with Diana's sorrow or the break-up of her marriage. It's a ring that is sentimental to William and obviously Catherine was honored to receive it and is proud to wear it. Catherine is 28 years old, not an immature, over emotional naive 18 year old. She has spent almost a decade with William, knows him very well and they obviously are very much in love. Why wish them such ill will and attach a curse on a ring simply because it belonged to his mother who has an unhappy marriage? People are going way to overboard with the ring issue IMO.

at her wedding- or had the music she chose as her anthem etc...
www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Diamond Personally I would be having trouble with a lot of this however, if Catherine wishes and does want to accept any conditions then so be it.That does not mean however that I have to agree with it and neither do you. I digress but I think Catherine does acquiesce to much more than I would. The personal initiative of Diana -granted no angel at times is not there that spunk- has not yet become apparent so this has been a wedding so far in the making of Catherine yielding as she did in courtship to whatever is handed her.Granted the BRF have the power and the money but the Middletons have only one Catherine.I would be glad if she was a bit more assertive. When Wills walks ahead of her like he does what do you expect- a balanced wedding party?[having equal numbers on both sides?] cannot see it.

You don't know Catherine and you have no idea how assertive or spunky she is in person. You are basing your opinions on nothing more than a few pictures and videos of them which has nothing to do with their relationship. However, since you have made up your mind and nothing anyone says or presents as evidence otherwise will change your mind...I will leave it at that.
 
:previous: He did a great job on Charles's 60th birthday photo. However, most of his work is not to my taste. I'm sure he can do it well.
 
while i understand how people see the ring as "bad luck" - it symbolizes a marriage that ultimately was very sad - it also symbolizes the good things that came from that marriage - the birth of william and harry for one and i'm sure there were other things. perhaps william chose to see those good things when he decided to give catherine this particular ring. as far as i'm concerned THAT bodes very well indeed for a wonderful future.
 
:previous: He did a great job on Charles's 60th birthday photo. However, most of his work is not to my taste. I'm sure he can do it well.

I agree with you, the picture of Charles on his 60th birthday was lovely.
 
I have a question about the car vs. carriage to take Catherine to Westminster Abbey. Isn't Catherine allergic to horses? I thought that might be the reason for the car. Then I think I read that, after the ceremony, they will be in a horse-drawn carriage to return to Buckingham Palace. If that's true, then I guess my allergy idea wouldn't be correct.
 
so Will Prince William Travel in a Carriage with Prince Henry and do we know from where theyll depart
 
I have a question about the car vs. carriage to take Catherine to Westminster Abbey. Isn't Catherine allergic to horses? I thought that might be the reason for the car. Then I think I read that, after the ceremony, they will be in a horse-drawn carriage to return to Buckingham Palace. If that's true, then I guess my allergy idea wouldn't be correct.

She's allergic to horses, but yes she's riding in her carriage back to BP. She's probably riding in the car for convenience.

so Will Prince William Travel in a Carriage with Prince Henry and do we know from where theyll depart

There is no definete answer to that question, however I would imagine it would be a car.
 
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In regards to the discussion of the ring and its "influence" suddenly I believe that we are not discussing the wedding of William and Catherine instead what is being discussed sounds like an aspect of J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings.

First off...Nice one!!

Second...I'm a huge LOTR Fan and a Mod at a Rings MB and....ROTFLOL!!!

Sadly, your post is rather too true as well. There are certain posters around here that need to start looking over their shoulders to make sure they aren't being followed by men to measure them for a very fashionable white jacket that fastens up at the back.
 
She's allergic to horses, but yes she's riding in her carriage back to BP. She's probably riding inth e car for convenience.



There is no definete answer to that question, however I would imagine it would be a car.

If she is riding in a car to and carriage from- she may just be covering her bases. I'm allergic to lots of things- I would do the same thing. Riding in a carriage on the way there leaves the possibility open for an allergic reaction on a day that is going to go down in history. Riding in a carriage on the way back leaves an avenue for "tradition" while she also has the option of grabbing a shower at some point on the way back if she has problems with the horses.

Just my two cents- but hey- I'm allergic to practically the entire pharmaceutical industry so I might be biased. :flowers:
 
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My thoughts exactly... :flowers:
 
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My guess would be that maybe she doesn't want to get hot and sweaty enroute to the Abbey. I don't remember if it was Diana or Sarah, but one of them said that the glass coach was stuffy and hot. JMHO ;)
 
or in other words, maybe she wanted air conditioning.
 
Money reasons. It was said at the time. This a wedding with the public purse strings in consideration given that we're all in recession high water. It would be a hugh amount of public money to get one of the state carriages out for the day. It would not be something the respective parents could pay because those carriages are offical. So there not. Going more modern. Going more cost conscious.
 
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I disagree based on the fact that the horseguards and carriage will be used anyway at the end of the ceremony. so.... where is the savings? she is going to have an escort to the service anyway.
 
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They will be using the horses anyway to leave the church won't they?
 
Criticism of the bridal party selections of the Prince and future Princess

I am stunned that the Palace had to issue an "explanation" of how the bridal selections were made. And that is because of an intrusive press and some of its members, like some in this forum, who make unwarranted assumptions.

Let's leave them alone. She is marrying the heir and that puts an entire different cast on things. And Catherine has known him and his family for a number of years, so she likely knows most or all these youngsters and their parents. And she may have no one in her close family to whom she might feel comfortable turning to.

I have empathy for this young couple who have every decision they make dissected by those who have absolutely no way of knowing what's really going on. Yes, lovely to be royal, but also it is an often a truly heavy burden.
 
I have empathy for this young couple who have every decision they make dissected by those who have absolutely no way of knowing what's really going on. Yes, lovely to be royal, but also it is an often a truly heavy burden.[/QUOTE]
:flowers: Very good point. I think that people often forget that we don't "know" these people despite how studied we are in all things royal.
 
I disagree based on the fact that the horseguards and carriage will be used anyway at the end of the ceremony. so.... where is the savings? she is going to have an escort to the service anyway.

No as with protocol the gold state carriage or more often the glass coach is used to bring the bride and her father to the wedding. The bride and groom return in one of the simpler open carriages on the way back. The closed state carriages ares vastly expensive to organise, clean, polish etc for use. The gold one being used just once a year for the opening of parliament each year. The last time I remember one being used apart from that was I think the Queens 50 jubilee.

It was said at the time that the car was being used for modernity and cost cutting reasons.

And as for most of the attendants being from William's side. Well they were going to be. He is the royal. All those children are either moderately well known themselves or come from the royal circle. Always going to be like that.
 
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I've just been going through The Princess Royal's jewellry thread for a picture of the Greek Key/Meander Tiara. I've been learning how to make circlets the last year, for LOTR Conventions/Medieval Reenactments, and am gradually getting my feet wet w/making Tiaras w/beads, wire and fake gemstones and think this might be a good one for me to take a whirl at recreating/making a lookalike. Anyway....

As we all know, at the beginning of all threads here, that particular Royal's Coat of Arms is displayed. Seeing Anne's got me pondering and...I wonder what Kate's will look like. IIRC, Diana's had Spencer CoA references/symbols on hers. Kate's not from a Noble Family though, so how does this happen in a case like Kate?

Just wondering... :eek:)
 
Seeing Anne's got me pondering and...I wonder what Kate's will look like. IIRC, Diana's had Spencer CoA references/symbols on hers. Kate's not from a Noble Family though, so how does this happen in a case like Kate?

Just wondering... :eek:)

It was mentioned a while back in one of these threads that Catherine's father has been making enquiries about getting arms awarded, hopefully fast-tracked!
 
The use of cars instead of horses and carriages (apart from the ride back to Buckingham Place for William and Kate) is not simply a way of cutting costs or to be more modern. Some costs may be saved, but the idea is that the event is to be more fitting and suitable for the current economic times - to lessen the air of pomp and pageatry and to minimise the more "showy" aspects of the event that really only appeared with the two 1980's royal weddings.

We all enjoyed the Danish, Spanish, Swedish, Dutch and Norwegian royal weddings didn't we? They all managed to get to and from the church with few carriages and mainly cars didn't they?!
 
But they aren't the British. Everyone expects pomp and ceremony. Thats why no one does it like the BRF.
 
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