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Old 01-19-2011, 02:11 PM
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They also should have the common decency to consult with the person paying for it to make sure that the arrangements can actually take place.

If they want to plan it as they see fit then they should pay for it themselves and not expect someone else to pay for something about which they haven't been consulted.

Assuming that the report is even right in the first place.
RIGHT ON I agree!
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Old 01-19-2011, 03:23 PM
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It is actually Fergie because of her position in the royal family who should by right be offered the privilege of organising royal wedding. Camilla Parker Bowles because of her true position could have been asked by Fergie to assist with invite. It is Clarence House. Queen has final say (on invit ee) if she or he chooses.
I'm sorry, I don't understand. Who is Fergie? The only Fergie I know of is Sarah Ferguson.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:31 PM
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I'm sorry, I don't understand. Who is Fergie? The only Fergie I know of is Sarah Ferguson.
I think the poster does mean Sarah Ferguson, aka "Fergie", but I still don't understand, like others here, what she has to do with William's wedding - much less organising it.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:37 PM
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I think the poster does mean Sarah Ferguson, aka "Fergie", but I still don't understand, like others here, what she has to do with William's wedding - much less organising it.
I think actually like I do a lot of times, she's got her royals a bit confused and was thinking Fergie was the mother of the groom rather than the ex aunt. Its very possible for someone relatively new to really following the BRF to confuse Diana and Sarah and their children.

BTW: Welcome to the Royal Forums Somersby Tulip! Stick with us, you'll be an expert on all this confusion in no time.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:42 PM
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First things first I would not take whatever is written in the press as fact unless you literally have video proof of whatever event they say happened actually occurring (in this case, video of the Queen actually saying how she disapproves of the way the wedding is being handled etc). I don't mean that literally everything the media writes is false, sometimes it's true, sometimes it's partly true & sometimes it's compltete imagination/misinformation. Take it all (good news & bad) with a pinch of salt until you literally see things for yourself (if you ever get to )

That said I truly cannot see how the Queen & BP could not be involved in the planning of this wedding. Perhaps they aren't directing it as much as in years past they probably did, but I'm sure there is no way the Queen & BP would ever allow William (or any member of family) essentially a blank cheque to use & do with as they choose without thorough checks on all arrangements. Firstly that all the necessary protocol for such an occassion was proper & appropriate, the timing & availability etc of each member of the RF, whether events planned are acceptable for the occasion etc. Just no way I can see the Queen letting anyone just go off on their own & "trust" they'll plan it in an appropriate way, the Royal Family are nothing if not planned & organised almost down to the micro second for these kind of big events (for goodness sake they've had almost all major family member's funeral arrangements planned & ready to be enacted at any given moment for years now! They are organised in the extreme!) Perhaps not all the details chosen are as the Queen would wish but I think if it's been allowed then the Queen herself has allowed it, I doubt anyone is organising such a major event without the Queen/BP's full knowledge & consent.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:20 PM
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First things first I would not take whatever is written in the press as fact unless you literally have video proof of whatever event they say happened actually occurring (in this case, video of the Queen actually saying how she disapproves of the way the wedding is being handled etc). I don't mean that literally everything the media writes is false, sometimes it's true, sometimes it's partly true & sometimes it's compltete imagination/misinformation. Take it all (good news & bad) with a pinch of salt until you literally see things for yourself (if you ever get to )

That said I truly cannot see how the Queen & BP could not be involved in the planning of this wedding. Perhaps they aren't directing it as much as in years past they probably did, but I'm sure there is no way the Queen & BP would ever allow William (or any member of family) essentially a blank cheque to use & do with as they choose without thorough checks on all arrangements. Firstly that all the necessary protocol for such an occassion was proper & appropriate, the timing & availability etc of each member of the RF, whether events planned are acceptable for the occasion etc. Just no way I can see the Queen letting anyone just go off on their own & "trust" they'll plan it in an appropriate way, the Royal Family are nothing if not planned & organised almost down to the micro second for these kind of big events (for goodness sake they've had almost all major family member's funeral arrangements planned & ready to be enacted at any given moment for years now! They are organised in the extreme!) Perhaps not all the details chosen are as the Queen would wish but I think if it's been allowed then the Queen herself has allowed it, I doubt anyone is organising such a major event without the Queen/BP's full knowledge & consent.
I rather think that The Queen and others are involved in all the discussions and not uninvolved at all, but that William and Catherine make the final decisions (thus after having consulted The Queen and such).

The majority of the media likes to dramatise things, don't believe all that is being written.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:54 PM
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If the report of the Queen and the Duke riding with the Middletons is true, this is probably the reason why. Having the grandparents ride with the Middletons is a way of avoiding all the Diana/Camilla business.


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... I understand Camilla is stepmom but that's still not mom and maybe they just don't want to call anymore attention to it plus imagine the hollows of protest from some if she took the 'mother' place. Enough plp will be thinking of Diana that day so maybe that is a way to not unintetionally disrespect it.....
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Old 01-20-2011, 01:35 AM
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Dumb question but have we ever heard about "media details" ie: what coverage is allowed what isn't do they usually announce that or do we just find out on wedding day. Again my first big BRF wedding so I dunno the ropes so to speak.
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:15 AM
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I found this on the official site. Media Information
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:27 AM
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Thanks Mermaid1962 too bad it doesn't say too much but I'm wondering will we know ahead of time or will we find out as it happens. I kinda want to know ahead of time how much it's going to cover so I know how many hours to set the recorder. Like for example should I cut it off right after the balcony appearance or should I set it to record later on during the night time reception will there be any coverage at all of that or are we going to be left completely in the dark about the whole thing.
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:29 AM
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Kate Middleton at Goring Hotel night before Royal wedding | Mail Online

Assuming Richard Kay still has an insight we are learning more about the plans for the lead up to the wedding.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:02 AM
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Kate Middleton at Goring Hotel night before Royal wedding | Mail Online

Assuming Richard Kay still has an insight we are learning more about the plans for the lead up to the wedding.
That's old news. It was known that they are looking out for a luxury hotel close to BP they could rent for the accommodation of their friends. Now it's "clear" that they chose this one.

I had written weeks ago when these rumour first came to light that I could imagine C&W will spend their wedding night in a suite of that hotel before starting out on their honeymoon....
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:32 AM
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That's old news. It was known that they are looking out for a luxury hotel close to BP they could rent for the accommodation of their friends. Now it's "clear" that they chose this one.

I had written weeks ago when these rumour first came to light that I could imagine C&W will spend their wedding night in a suite of that hotel before starting out on their honeymoon....
This is actually new - we knew that were booking the entire hotel - that was reported weeks ago.

What we are now being told is that this is where Kate is spending the night before the wedding with her parents - that is new information.

Richard Kay doesn't report stuff from weeks ago - he either makes up or reports new information and this is his article from today.
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:15 AM
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This is actually new - we knew that were booking the entire hotel - that was reported weeks ago.

What we are now being told is that this is where Kate is spending the night before the wedding with her parents - that is new information.

Richard Kay doesn't report stuff from weeks ago - he either makes up or reports new information and this is his article from today.
Hm, in the article he says that the staff is exited and is speculating that Catherine will spend the night before the wedding there... Who knows...
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:51 AM
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Here is one more article:

Kate Middleton's 'last night' location revealed - hellomagazine.com (20/01/2010).
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:34 AM
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They also should have the common decency to consult with the person paying for it to make sure that the arrangements can actually take place.

If they want to plan it as they see fit then they should pay for it themselves and not expect someone else to pay for something about which they haven't been consulted.

Assuming that the report is even right in the first place.
Obviously the article isn't true. To assume it is would be to assume that the Queen and her entire staff have no knowledge or input as to what is taking place at Buckingham Palace when they are the ones that have to execute the events. Two receptions take considerable planning and coordination. Since Clarence House has no authority over BP, it isn't possible for them to plan either event at BP without key staff members and the Queen being consulted and giving approval. The Queen is head of BP and always has input and final approval over any event being held there. This includes anything involving the Royal Mews which would be responsible for transporting Kate and other Royals to and from the Abby.
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:38 AM
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Kate Middleton at Goring Hotel night before Royal wedding | Mail Online

Assuming Richard Kay still has an insight we are learning more about the plans for the lead up to the wedding.
LOL! I just tried to pull up the link to the Goring Hotel and can't do it due to high traffic. I imagine their phones are ringing off the hook since this has been announced.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:14 PM
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Kate Middleton at Goring Hotel night before Royal wedding | Mail Online

Assuming Richard Kay still has an insight we are learning more about the plans for the lead up to the wedding.
But she's travelling from BP to the wedding, so why would she be staying elsewhere the night before her wedding?
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:33 PM
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But she's travelling from BP to the wedding, so why would she be staying elsewhere the night before her wedding?
But that's been the big assumption, hasn't it...one which, I admit, is more likely than departure from a hotel. The actual press release is, "Miss Middleton will travel to the wedding service at Westminster Abbey by car along a route that will include The Mall, Horse Guards Parade, Whitehall and Parliament Square." It doesn't say the start point which leaves us a bit open-ended.

If Kate does spend her last night at the Goring Hotel and then they tried to transfer her to Clarence House or BP that morning to make preparations, it would be a fiasco, IMO. And it doesn't seem very proper to depart a hotel to Westminster Abbey, does it? My guess is that she will be at either Clarence House or St. James Palace. I hate waiting for these details!!
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But that's been the big assumption, hasn't it...one which, I admit, is more likely than departure from a hotel. The actual press release is, "Miss Middleton will travel to the wedding service at Westminster Abbey by car along a route that will include The Mall, Horse Guards Parade, Whitehall and Parliament Square." It doesn't say the start point which leaves us a bit open-ended.

If Kate does spend her last night at the Goring Hotel and then they tried to transfer her to Clarence House or BP that morning to make preparations, it would be a fiasco, IMO. And it doesn't seem very proper to depart a hotel to Westminster Abbey, does it? My guess is that she will be at either Clarence House or St. James Palace. I hate waiting for these details!!
This article says that at 10:50pm - Catherine Middleton and her father Mike Middleton leave Buckingham Palace via car.
Royal wedding: Kate Middleton will take car not horse-drawn carriage to wedding | Mail Online


Other DM articles;
Kate Middleton and Prince William wedding: hotels and flights surge | Mail Online
Prince William and Kate Middleton's royal wedding: Hotels booked up | Mail Online
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