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Old 12-29-2010, 04:48 PM
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Are Americans more excited than the Brits?

Well, you have to remember that Americans have not been subjected to 8 years of coverage of Prince William's girlfriend. The U.S. media don't cover the royals on a regular basis, so naturally people in the U.S. are curious and interested. Most Americans could not have told you who William was dating, and they haven't gotten any coverage of lesser weddings in the royal family either. An American royal watcher has to make an effort to seek out information, because the mainstream US media are not going to provide it unless a major event like a wedding in the upper echelons of the royal family suddenly comes along. When it does, it seems special, something connected with an instutution Americans don't have and are not used to hearing about or seeing.

But the British get regular coverage, and many of them are so used to the royal family (and, in some cases, actively hostile to it) that the prospect of a wedding about which the British media have been speculating for years now can't seem all that vastly exciting. Think about the fact that there have wedding rumors ad infinitum practically since Prince William and Catherine Middleton left university. Perhaps the announcement just seemed more than a little anticlimactic in the UK.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:08 PM
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Here is Australia the engagement received a bit of coverage on the day (and Zara's practically nothing) and William is our future King but the lack of coverage just shows that the Australian press knows that Australians, generally, aren't interested in the wedding of some rich foreign man. Sure there will be some coverage in the week leading up to the wedding and the day or so after it but really Australians simply didn't seem all that interested to me.

We get very little coverage here of royal doings. My brother, works in the media (sports area) and knew that Mike Tindall had got engaged to some royal or other but hadn't even heard that William was getting married. In fact none of his wife's family had registered that fact and when I mentioned it at Christmas I got blank stares from everyone - with some of the younger ones saying things like 'who cares?' 'whose William?' 'whose Charles?' 'whose Diana?'. There was over 70 of us for Christmas dinner (my sister-in-law is one of 10 and all were present with kids and grandkids) and I was the only one who knew William was engaged. That surprised me quite a bit - along with the total non-interest when I got to work the day of the announcement. I had expected kids and staff to ask me about things or make comments but there was nothing said by anyone. I have not actually met anyone yet who is in the slightest bit interested or planning on watching the wedding. That will change as the time gets closer and some of the kids at school will watch it I am sure, as will some of the staff (although I have other plans that evening - the football at the SCG - which is where my brother and his family will be as well).
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:44 PM
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I really wish you would stop using your own small sphere of knowlege for the whole of Australia! Not interested; William & Catherine have been on every magazine cover and all over the news!


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Here is Australia the engagement received a bit of coverage on the day (and Zara's practically nothing) and William is our future King but the lack of coverage just shows that the Australian press knows that Australians, generally, aren't interested in the wedding of some rich foreign man. Sure there will be some coverage in the week leading up to the wedding and the day or so after it but really Australians simply didn't seem all that interested to me.

We get very little coverage here of royal doings. My brother, works in the media (sports area) and knew that Mike Tindall had got engaged to some royal or other but hadn't even heard that William was getting married. In fact none of his wife's family had registered that fact and when I mentioned it at Christmas I got blank stares from everyone - with some of the younger ones saying things like 'who cares?' 'whose William?' 'whose Charles?' 'whose Diana?'. There was over 70 of us for Christmas dinner (my sister-in-law is one of 10 and all were present with kids and grandkids) and I was the only one who knew William was engaged. That surprised me quite a bit - along with the total non-interest when I got to work the day of the announcement. I had expected kids and staff to ask me about things or make comments but there was nothing said by anyone. I have not actually met anyone yet who is in the slightest bit interested or planning on watching the wedding. That will change as the time gets closer and some of the kids at school will watch it I am sure, as will some of the staff (although I have other plans that evening - the football at the SCG - which is where my brother and his family will be as well).
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:07 PM
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I really wish you would stop using your own small sphere of knowlege for the whole of Australia! Not interested; William & Catherine have been on every magazine cover and all over the news!

They weren't all over the news for anything more than the day of the announcement, unless you watch news other than the ABC, Channel 7, 9 10 and Sky (I do watch all of them every day). Since the day of the announcement there has been nothing.

They got the front covers of New Idea and Women's Day for one week (but not Women's Weekly). I have actually been surprised at how few of the magazines that have come out since the engagement have had pictures of them on the covers.

I use my small sphere to show my small sphere - and make it clear that it is my small sphere for that purpose - to counter the arguments that everyone is enthusiastic. I thought that my showing that in a group of over 70 only one knew who William was and that he was engaged might show people something about some Australians. I had never said that it was the whole of Australia. Had I wanted to make that point I wouldn't have made it clear just how big the sphere was.

I am sure there will be more interest in the week or so leading up to the wedding but I am not getting a sense, from watching the news, reading the papers or the magazines that there is all that much enthusiasm.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:12 PM
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Not interested; William & Catherine have been on every magazine cover and all over the news!
Agreed Wymanda. I find it difficult to visualize many people in Australia who don't know who Prince William and Diana are.

Prince William's successful tour of Australia cuts Republican support for ditching monarchy.

Although his three-day trip to Australia was actually only conducted on a semi-official basis (and was, therefore, paid for personally by the Queen) William's brief sojourn in the country sparked the kind of scenes not witnessed since the visit of his late mother, Princess Diana, who remains hugely popular with large swathes of the population.

His public engagements attracted crowds several thousand strong and dominated the television news headlines each night. Several newspapers even bought out souvenirs.


Read more: Prince William's trip to Australia dampens desire for country to ditch monarchy | Mail Online
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:30 PM
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Agreed Wymanda. I find it difficult to visualize many people in Australia who don't know who Prince William and Diana are.

Prince William's successful tour of Australia cuts Republican support for ditching monarchy.

Although his three-day trip to Australia was actually only conducted on a semi-official basis (and was, therefore, paid for personally by the Queen) William's brief sojourn in the country sparked the kind of scenes not witnessed since the visit of his late mother, Princess Diana, who remains hugely popular with large swathes of the population.

His public engagements attracted crowds several thousand strong and dominated the television news headlines each night. Several newspapers even bought out souvenirs.


Read more: Prince William's trip to Australia dampens desire for country to ditch monarchy | Mail Online

Several thousands is fine - but we were in holiday mode so of course people would turn up for the show.

Of course people get caught up in the story and so any poll about a republic taken at the time - depending on the wording - would show a different result to say one taken after a negative royal experience.

Many young people don't know who William is and even more don't know who Diana was simply because we don't get all that much coverage and total lack of interest.

I can visualise entire classes of teenages who don't know who William is - because I teach them. When I teach the Republican Referendum to 15 -16 year olds each year the first thing I have to do is actually explain who the Queen is and how our system works as they simply don't know anything about her. Many of them actually think we are a republic already as except for the occasional visit from a royal they have no role to play in our country. Ask Australian teenagers who is Australia's Head of State and most will say Julia Gillard (our PM) as they can't even name the GG let alone realise that the Queen holds that title. Many teachers of my acquaitance have found the same thing (and most teach that Australia should be a republic sooner rather than later as most teachers I know are republicans and actively support that cause in their classrooms).
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:39 PM
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Our Australian friends are always sending us clippings of articles about William, Kate and Diana from Australian publications so I believe those articles sell or they wouldn't continue to write them.

I respect your opinion of course but get a very different view from other inhabitants of Australia.

William and Diana and increasingly Kate are known and often liked in countries which don't belong to the Common Wealth. Those who read Hello!, the papers, Woman's Own and many American, Australian and European publications, inclluding those which contain celebs know exactly who Harry and William are, so it isn't about politics or geography.

Let's agree to disagree.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:41 PM
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Agreed Wymanda. I find it difficult to visualize many people in Australia who don't know who Prince William and Diana are.
I kinda find that difficult to believe too. I could see maybe not knowing the details of their lives, but I can't imagine they have never heard their names.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:49 PM
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They weren't all over the news for anything more than the day of the announcement, unless you watch news other than the ABC, Channel 7, 9 10 and Sky (I do watch all of them every day). Since the day of the announcement there has been nothing.

They got the front covers of New Idea and Women's Day for one week (but not Women's Weekly). I have actually been surprised at how few of the magazines that have come out since the engagement have had pictures of them on the covers.
I missed out on buying copies of the magazines with them on the cover that week, and was looking forward to the Women's Weekly engagment edition, but the new one has Rebecca Gibney in a bathing costume on the cover - and looking very fine for 46, too. There seems to be an article in there about Kate and William "Royal Special - The Making of a Modern Princess", so I'll have to buy it because this may be all the coverage the engagement will get. I assume there will still be a wedding issue though.

I haven't heard anything about them or the wedding on the TV or radio news since the days immediately following the announcement, and I don't recall anything on the news about Zara and Mike.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:36 PM
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I think that as news is released about wedding details, more articles will be written in all countries. At the moment, nothing new to report.

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Old 12-29-2010, 08:59 PM
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US Magazine and People here in USA run a wedding 'story' every week- this week US weekly says Kate's hairdresser is practicing updos, which if true I cheer for! :)
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:00 PM
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Since lately US Magazine has been focusing on MTV's Teen Moms, I prefer the Catherine stories. Even though I haven't learned anything new from them. But nice pictures.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:09 PM
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I really wish you would stop using your own small sphere of knowlege for the whole of Australia! Not interested; William & Catherine have been on every magazine cover and all over the news!
Just because William & Kate have been all over the news doesn't necessarily mean people are interested.

http://thetvrealist.com/gossip/Teen-Moms-Are-More-Popular-Than-Kate-Middleton-4159228.html

http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/sectors/media/royal-wedding-fails-to-boost-tabloid-sales/3021556.article

Just a snippet of links that talk about magazine sells. Then again in Australia she could be a smashing success. I believe that where I live most people could care less about the royals. Then again two towns away that could all change. Most people seem to care more about relevant events like the economy, Iraq/Afghanistan and North Korea.

So I am inclined to agree with Iluvbertie. It is possible that if you don't like the royal family, then when they come on the t.v. you turn it off, or you don't buy the magazines with them on it.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:17 PM
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I think Wymanda's main point is that one person doesn't speak for all of Australia just as I don't speak for all of America.

Iluvbertie is probably correct that in her sphere no one is that interested in the royal wedding. But it would be a mistake to take her sphere as a representative for all of Australia.

At the end of the day or rather a day after the wedding, we will know who really cares when the stations release the numbers on who watched the wedding. Until then, its pretty much all specualtion.
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Since lately US Magazine has been focusing on MTV's Teen Moms, I prefer the Catherine stories. Even though I haven't learned anything new from them. But nice pictures.
Indeed, it has been nice to see some people on the cover that I actually recognize.

I've also noticed quite a bit of coverage of William & Kate (and what seems to be more coverage of the BRF in general) on NBC Nightly News - I've seen several stories on them since the engagement was announced, including one tonight about William and Kate's decision not to have household staff (which aired on my local news also).

And People magazine seems to be scrambling to have a W&K-related story on their website nearly every day, no matter how trivial.

After a few years during which royal coverage stateside had seemed pretty quiet, I enjoy seeing things pick up again. I don't know how much the public in general are interested, but the continued stories seem to indicate that there's some solid interest there. It's interesting to hear how people perceive it in different countries, though.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:37 PM
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A royal wedding is glamourous and so magazines like People jump at the bait. Most Americans haven't the foggiest idea who they are and could care less about them. But show a pretty bride and a big show coming and they will take a few minutes to look. Women that is.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:48 PM
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A royal wedding is glamourous and so magazines like People jump at the bait. Most Americans haven't the foggiest idea who they are and could care less about them. But show a pretty bride and a big show coming and they will take a few minutes to look. Women that is.
Most Americans don't know who they are? I'd personally find that very difficult to believe. Though I suppose there are people who don't watch the news or don't look at magazines, and of course everyone has their different perceptions based upon their own social groupings.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:02 PM
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I can visualise entire classes of teenages who don't know who William is - because I teach them. When I teach the Republican Referendum to 15 -16 year olds each year the first thing I have to do is actually explain who the Queen is and how our system works as they simply don't know anything about her. Many of them actually think we are a republic already as except for the occasional visit from a royal they have no role to play in our country. Ask Australian teenagers who is Australia's Head of State and most will say Julia Gillard (our PM) as they can't even name the GG let alone realise that the Queen holds that title. Many teachers of my acquaitance have found the same thing (and most teach that Australia should be a republic sooner rather than later as most teachers I know are republicans and actively support that cause in their classrooms).
Maybe that is why the aforesaid teen agers don't know these things. I just have to say that I find it strange that these kids at that age don't know these things. It's one thing to be a republican but it seems quite another when it appears factual information has not to be taught in the schools. IT IS the way it is at this point, and the other things you spoke of that they are not aware of is history, not just their history. I'm just kind of surprised as it seems to be leaving a great gaping information hole. I would venture to say that a lot of teen agers in this country know who William is.

I just don't consider this information "celebrity stuff" regarding who the Queen is or how the Commonwealth works. Possibly it is just a different arrangement as to when things are taught, but in this country that sort of information is taught in the elementary schools I guess what puzzles me is that if a teacher "can" teach how things "should" be rather than how they are, it could lead to a lot of very strange ideas floating around depending on the idiosyncrasies of a specific teacher.
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Most Americans don't know who they are? I'd personally find that very difficult to believe. Though I suppose there are people who don't watch the news or don't look at magazines, and of course everyone has their different perceptions based upon their own social groupings.
No, I am using a large public social grouping. Many Americans, unfortuantely, cannot even name their Congressperson or Senator. That's really a problem. William is, probably, known for being Diana's son. I watch the news, read many magazines and am surrounded by people interested in politics and history, we are all very educated. No one has mentioned this event at any gathering. And the magazines that, mostly, carried this news were People type publications.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:36 PM
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It just goes to show that you shouldn't let one specific person or region speak for a country or world.

I am an oddity with my friends, who know of my special interest in royalty. At least 3 to 5 of them have asked me at various times (none together) what my thoughts where of the royal wedding. What did I think about Kate? Did I hear that there was going to be another royal wedding? Who was Zara? They call me when royal specials come on BBC America and PBS, or there is a 2 minute spin on the TODAY show, they checked on me the day Diana died and the day Charles married Camilla.

But that's just me and my friends.
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