Wedding of William and Catherine: Suggestions and Musings


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I have said before that the royal representatives will be there only because it is a royal wedding, and not because they actually want to be there. Due to the BRF lack of IMO European friendship. Royals went to Princess Victoria's wedding because they wanted to be there, they were all friends. I don't think William has met the foreign heirs more than twice, his fathers wedding if then and his fathers birthday.

It makes sense to me that he will have to make more of an effort with the other Royal houses for his future role, and this might be a good time to start. Since Prince Charles is paying for the wedding, and the Queen is paying for the reception, I am sure they will have influence on the guest lists for both. It will be interesting to see who is on the invite list once it's finalized.
 
Some of William's Royal cousins in Europe will wish to attend but some may well have other plans.

Though I put little stock in what Paul Burrell has to say, he is claiming that of the 2,000 guests, Kate Middleton's guest list is only for 100 attendees. If that is correct, I'm sure William will encourage her to suggest guests he can add to his list on her behalf. It will be interesting to see who turns up from all walks of life.
 
It makes sense to me that he will have to make more of an effort with the other Royal houses for his future role, and this might be a good time to start. Since Prince Charles is paying for the wedding, and the Queen is paying for the reception, I am sure they will have influence on the guest lists for both. It will be interesting to see who is on the invite list once it's finalized.

I agree, William hasn't made an effort to get to know his european counterparts, yes he isn't the heir but he will one day be King and friendliness in Europe wouldn't do any harm.
A lot of monarchs and royal houses respect and know Prince Charles and The Queen and that is one other reason they may attend.
 
I don't think William has met the foreign heirs more than twice, his fathers wedding if then and his fathers birthday.

It is difficult to tell how many times William may have met some of the other European heirs. Whilst the two most recent large gatherings of Euroepan royals in the UK have been at Charles' 60th and at the C&C wedding, it is well known that some them visit their British counterparts privately. William may well have met a number of the broader European family at such private events.

The other point to note is that whilst Victoria / Philippe / Haakon / W-A are of broadly similar age, they are substantially younger than Charles, and older than William and Harry - hence, there is a less obvious connection.
 
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Well the two most recent large gatherings of royals would be Victoria & Daniels and Charles' 60th.
They may have met privately, but i'm sure we would have seen some pictures of european royals arriving in the UK. William IMO, doesn't seem to have much time for anyone outside the UK.

Yes most heirs in Europe are around the same age range, however Victoria being the youngest heir at 33 and Phillipe being the eldest besides Charles at 50. There is a 5 year age gap between Victoria and William, and a 17 year age gap between Victoria and Phillipe who are quite good friends.

Victoria, Haakon and Frederik have always been close friends for some times, due to their countries being close. But Frederik is 9 years older than Victoria and Haakon is 4.

Age IMO has nothing to do with it, it is the fact that William hasn't been bothered or has seen no reason to make friends with foreign royals.
 
Age IMO has nothing to do with it, it is the fact that William hasn't been bothered or has seen no reason to make friends with foreign royals.

Do you have any basis for your assertions above, or shall we just not let facts get in the way of a good line?
 
I started the line with In My Opinion, do I need evidence to back up my opinion? It is what I have formulated in my head from what I have seen.
If he was friends with foreign royals, I am sure we would have seen him with them more would we not?
 
I started the line with In My Opinion, do I need evidence to back up my opinion? It is what I have formulated in my head from what I have seen.
If he was friends with foreign royals, I am sure we would have seen him with them more would we not?

As Charles is a friend of Constantine and the younger heirs are friends/cousins of his son Pavlos, I guess there could have been lots of occasions for William to meet them in private. AFAIK Charles is a personal friend of Carl XVI. Gustaf and Silvia and they meet whenever the Swedes come to holiday in Scotland, which they seem to do more often than is known. At least that's what the owner of a Top hotel in Scotland told me about their weekend stays there.
 
Age IMO has nothing to do with it, it is the fact that William hasn't been bothered or has seen no reason to make friends with foreign royals.

I started the line with In My Opinion, do I need evidence to back up my opinion? It is what I have formulated in my head from what I have seen.

The problem there was your use of the word "fact". There will be plenty that you haven't seen, nor the rest of us.
 
As Charles is a friend of Constantine and the younger heirs are friends/cousins of his son Pavlos, I guess there could have been lots of occasions for William to meet them in private. AFAIK Charles is a personal friend of Carl XVI. Gustaf and Silvia and they meet whenever the Swedes come to holiday in Scotland, which they seem to do more often than is known. At least that's what the owner of a Top hotel in Scotland told me about their weekend stays there.

You have expressed my point, Charles is friends with these people, not William.
 
Actually...since Edward and Sophie have been going to more weddings and socializing with "these people" one could argue that they have closer relationships than Charles even though he is the heir.

I believe what the main issue is the phrase "can't be bothered" is a little harsh. Considering that William has finished college and military schooling, I think we can agree that he has been a little busy. Also, as previously pointed out...William is part of the sandwich generation. He is around the same age as Victoria but considerably younger than WA and Frederik...why he have gone to their weddings? And really....Margrethe and CG are what....first cousins...so of course they have a closer relationship. And Beatrix is Victoria's godmother. We don't follow the royals 24/7 so we don't know who knows who...if people visit each other, speak on the phone, etc.
 
Age IMO has nothing to do with it, it is the fact that William hasn't been bothered or has seen no reason to make friends with foreign royals.


Well maybe his wedding would be a good place to start getting to know them if he doesn't ? :D For our sakes I hope lots of royals are invited and attend!
 
You have expressed my point, Charles is friends with these people, not William.

No, I made a different point: as Charles is known as being a friend of Constantine, there is a good chance that "behind locked doors" William is a friend of Constantine's offspring. Especially as William as male-line grandson of a "prince of Greece and Denmark" has his own family connections to Pavlos and his cousins.
 
Do you want a picture of your face rubbed in the dirt by purpose? Or what is it that "tea Towels" are made for? I ( as a German, so please understand) think it's disgusting to have pictures of people on something that is considered a part of your "dirt-removal set" - even though you might not use it for this - some people do!

Tea towels are made to clean your dishes with. At least with us (your western neighbours :lol:) they are used for that.
I wouldn't want a tea towel as I find this occasion way too special for such a thing, I'd much rather prefer a coffee mug or whatever else sustainable will be available.
 
I think most people would use those more for decoration then for use. I don't use any of the collectable cups or items that have royal faces on them. Most people I know who buy stuff like this only use it for decoration or for display. If I could I would get a cup or maybe a plate, or something that would look nice in my cabinet where I have some nice stuff in it.

Though I can see why Kate and William would say no to tea towels, I wouldn't want to imagine what people would be using it for.
 
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No, I made a different point: as Charles is known as being a friend of Constantine, there is a good chance that "behind locked doors" William is a friend of Constantine's offspring. Especially as William as male-line grandson of a "prince of Greece and Denmark" has his own family connections to Pavlos and his cousins.

Constatine is also William's godfather. Not that that means anything as Anne is Haakon of Norway's godmother...and was a bridesmaid at Constatine's wedding...but Charles and the Greeks seem to have a closer relationship. So you should definitely see him there.
 
Can I ask a question without starting a huge argument Ok so I re-read the piece about Kate getting counseling and the thing that stood out to me was they said like Diana she and William will spend alot of time apart as full time royals. Now considering at the time his father was not only hier to the throne but Prince of Wales as well do you think they'll be apart as much as Charles and Diana were but tbh I don't even know how much they were apart after the wedding it felt like we always saw them together.
 
Can I ask a question without starting a huge argument Ok so I re-read the piece about Kate getting counseling and the thing that stood out to me was they said like Diana she and William will spend alot of time apart as full time royals. Now considering at the time his father was not only hier to the throne but Prince of Wales as well do you think they'll be apart as much as Charles and Diana were but tbh I don't even know how much they were apart after the wedding it felt like we always saw them together.


For the first couple of years Diana and Charles were together on engagements. The only reason I can think of to why kate would be on her own would be his military duties.
 
I highly doubt this but the frist think that came to my mind when I saw this was: Diana's sisters telling her it was too late to back out of the wedding as her face was already on the tea towels ... :whistling:

That was my first thought as well.
 
That was my first thought as well.
Mine too the first thing I heard in my head after reading that was "Bad luck Dutch your face is on the tea towels so it's too late to chicken out"

For the first couple of years Diana and Charles were together on engagements. The only reason I can think of to why kate would be on her own would be his military duties.
same here but they'll claiming they'll spend alot of time apart during the time they are full time royals. As far as I can recall until the marriage spiraled downwards at the end of day Charles and Diana would still see each other at home even if they had seperate engagements earlier that day
 
Can I ask a question without starting a huge argument Ok so I re-read the piece about Kate getting counseling and the thing that stood out to me was they said like Diana she and William will spend alot of time apart as full time royals. Now considering at the time his father was not only hier to the throne but Prince of Wales as well do you think they'll be apart as much as Charles and Diana were but tbh I don't even know how much they were apart after the wedding it felt like we always saw them together.

I think until William finishes up his stint in SAR in Wales, they actually won't be full time royals. If he doesn't reenlist after that and they do become full time royals, I think the marriage will be on solid enough ground. Kate has over the years spent time apart from seeing William when he had other things going on so I really don't think it will bother her as much as perhaps it did Diana after she married Charles. After knowing and being with William for 8 some years, I really think she's got a good clue what she's in for.
 
Age IMO has nothing to do with it, it is the fact that William hasn't been bothered or has seen no reason to make friends with foreign royals.

Lets break down William's life since he left Eton:

1. Gap Year - He travelled quite a bit and worked while he was in England.
2. University - 3 years. Obviously study was his first consideration
3. Sandhurst - Training and his time was regimented by the Army.
4. Services Familiarisation - Again a serving officer so the forces would have first call on his time.
5. Search and Rescue training and service.

I think this shows that William hasn't had much time since his 18th birthday to be gadding around the world socialising. He takes his duties seriously.
 
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To dry dishes. I've also heard them called "cup towels.":flowers:

Though I can see why Kate and William would say no to tea towels, I wouldn't want to imagine what people would be using it for.
 
Lets break down William's life since he left Eton:

1. Gap Year - He travelled quite a bit and worked while he was in England.
2. University - 3 years. Obviously study was his first consideration
3. Sandhurst - Training and his time was regimented by the Army.
4. Services Familiarisation - Again a serving officer so the forces would have first call on his time.
5. Search and Rescue training and service.

I think this shows that William hasn't had much time since his 18th birthday to be gadding around the world socialising. He takes his duties seriously.

He did another gap year after finishing at uni.
 
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