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Old 10-03-2013, 06:29 AM
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HM was fortunate that the Duke of Edinburgh took an interest in the private (and public) finances from an early date but even so I don't doubt that HM herself kept an eye on the books as any astute landowner with many disparate assets would. Merely surmising on my part but I'd imagine the private royal finances and spread of investments are somewhat more complex today than they would have been in 1952 and William will need some time to fully understand them. That's if he's interested of course, otherwise he could leave everything in the hands of advisers and accountants, although I'd like to think he's smarter than that.
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In 1952 royal finances were more secure: they didn't pay taxes, didn't pay inheritance taxes (now they must deal about this), received expensive personal gifts (now gifts are part of Royal Collections) and so on.
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:16 AM
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Charles won't pay inheritance tax on anything he inherits from The Queen.

Actually they did pay income tax until George VI negotiated to stop that due to having to buy properties from his brother and The Queen continued that until 1992 and now pays tax 'voluntarily'.

Charles paid taxes voluntarily from when he took control of the Duchy of Cornwall but reduced the amount when he married claiming that he needed the extra money for Diana's expenses.
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Old 10-06-2013, 04:11 AM
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There is an article in the express calling out William for not doing engagements unlike his grandfather who is visiting a elderly home.

I don't understand all of this William hate. No one is making Philip do anything that he doesn't want to do. If he wanted to stop, he could stop.

William has been out of the RAF for a just a month. He went to the Tusk Awards and filmed a PSA and then spent 2 weeks in Scotland with his family. This week was spent moving and this Monday he is at the BP honoring football volunteers.

Some people think that he should have done 20 engagements or so by now and this will be the same people who will criticize him if he did 500 engagements a year but his marriage breaks down and George hates him because he is never home.

He isn't PoW or King yet. He should be allowed to carve his own role while spending time with his family.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:05 AM
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I don't understand all of this William hate.
I believe this is the beginning of something we all know very well. Remember, Royals are loved when they are young, hated when they are middle-aged, and revered when they are old.

Of course, the Duke of Cambridge isn't middle-aged yet, but, 25 years from now, the current Prince of Wales will be the old and much-beloved King Charles III, Prince William will be the unpopular Prince of Wales (and the media will be alway saying nasty things about the Princess of Wales, I have no doubt), and Prince George of Wales will be popular and young, with the celebrity status Princes William and Harry are now enjoying.

Mark my words, people will be wanting Prince William to renounce his rights to the Throne, so the Crown will skip a generation, and King Charles III will be succeeded by his young and cool grandson.

Prince Charles is becoming more and more popular now, even the number of Camilla-haters is now decreasing, as the Duchess of Cornwall is becoming liked by the people. Media needs to hate someone, and loosers will always need some Royal to complain about at the Daily Mail and Telegraph sites, and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are the perfect targets for that.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:51 AM
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They also make themselves targets by not doing public duties but being quite ready to take the taxpayers money via security and upgrading homes. The public rightly feel they should be getting something in return for their money and at the moment with William they aren't getting that. If he wasn't ready to take up duties he should have stayed in the military.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:29 AM
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There are more than a 'few detractors' and polls in papers are notoriously unreliable as the questions can be set up to get the answer the papers/press/organisation want.
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:22 AM
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Anonymous user names in the comment sections of tabloids can't really be taken seriously, can they? I would think that any detractor who was serious, would be proud to declare their dissatisfaction publicly; otherwise, they're just venting and they don't much care what or who they vent against.
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:30 AM
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I think its time William and Kate start making some serious plans about their "work"..Actually planning should have been over by now..And do something which the public can appreciate..That is , bluntly speaking, SHOW.
Yes they need to put show for people, thats what most public, or atleast the tabloid-media want.
These vague statements like "plans to assist HM...plans to continue conservative work.." etc etc WILL NOT WORK for public..
Especially when we have two reports each dat about millions being spent on their "not one but two" homes..
I am speaking all this from usual public perspective..

I personally feel William should have spent another year or two in RAF. OK now that he has come out things should move pretty fast. And this seems like a "gap year"..which is IMO inexcusible..in PR point of view. "Taking time to be with baby" is also equally disastrous PR-wise, as an average Joe has only 3 weeks for that, and its long over..
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:57 AM
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Its really a no win situation with critics...if he is too visible people will think he is overshadowing the queen and not being a good father because he is never home and if he doesn't do many people think he is a lazy royal..but it was already said these projects are going to be done in private over long periods of time

...don't forget Phillip is going against what alot of people want him to do including probably his doctors...but both him and the Queen are going to do the amt of appearances they want despite what people say.

My point in general is people will always complain about something...
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:17 AM
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Oh yes asking 2,005 people out of a population of 62 million is totally representative! Another inaccurate poll.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:34 AM
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The queen is paying for Amner Hall renovations. The 1 million spent on KP would have to be done eventually and is a drop in the pond of public expenditure. The UK taxpayer spent 52 million on the basketball arena for the Olympics which was a temporary venue and taken down and recycled after the games.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:57 PM
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Oh yes asking 2,005 people out of a population of 62 million is totally representative! Another inaccurate poll.
Um, that's how statistical sampling works... As long as the sample is randomized, and no selection bias exists...
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:45 PM
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...this seems like a "gap year"..which is IMO inexcusible..in PR point of view. "Taking time to be with baby" is also equally disastrous PR-wise...
Um...William and Kensington Palace never said he was taking a '"gap year"' or that he was going to be '"taking time to be with baby"'

I think it'd be best to wait for the engagement announcements that have been promised. I am really excited for this new stage for him. I also do not understand the hate especially since most of what everyone is complaining about is wrong information.

I know this has been post before but...

http://www.dukeandduchessofcambridge.../press-release
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:06 PM
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I don't know, but I am with you on the ridiculousness of people's expectations of this specific couple.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:38 AM
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I don't know how many times people have to repeat this but WE KNOW that neither William not Kensington Palace have said he is taking a gap year. That is what us posters have inferred from William's actions and the limited detail in press release.
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:53 AM
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They also make themselves targets by not doing public duties but being quite ready to take the taxpayers money via security and upgrading homes. The public rightly feel they should be getting something in return for their money and at the moment with William they aren't getting that. If he wasn't ready to take up duties he should have stayed in the military.
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vkrish I think its time William and Kate start making some serious plans about their "work"..Actually planning should have been over by now..And do something which the public can appreciate..That is , bluntly speaking, SHOW.
Yes they need to put show for people, thats what most public, or atleast the tabloid-media want.
These vague statements like "plans to assist HM...plans to continue conservative work.." etc etc WILL NOT WORK for public..
Especially when we have two reports each dat about millions being spent on their "not one but two" homes..
I am speaking all this from usual public perspective..

I personally feel William should have spent another year or two in RAF. OK now that he has come out things should move pretty fast. And this seems like a "gap year"..which is IMO inexcusible..in PR point of view. "Taking time to be with baby" is also equally disastrous PR-wise, as an average Joe has only 3 weeks for that, and its long over..
Exactly!!! I am amazed that the slightest critizism towards W&K makes posters 'detractors'
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The press release gives us no new information it's the same crap we've been given year in year out except this time William isn't in the RAF. We have no confirmation he is increasing his engagements, we have no confirmation of any future tours, we have no confirmation of any increase in any kind of workload. He's basically carrying on as before but he now has no excuse for it, which is totally unacceptable.

He will continue to do this, continue to do that, expand his knowledge blah blah blah.


If he wants to take a year out, spend time with his family, concentrate on certain things that's fine all he has to do is actually ADMIT that's what he's doing.
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Actually, the Press Release is quite clear about what the Duke will be doing. To quote:

> The Duke will work closely over the next twelve months with the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry.
> He will expand his work in the field of conservation, particularly in respect of endangered species.
> The Duke will continue to work with his charities on issues relating to children and young people, veterans and serving members of the Armed Forces.
> The Duke is currently considering a number of options for public service, a further announcement on which will follow in due course


If one has decided that William is taking a gap year, then you can surely interpret the information above as so. In fact, I am sure I you are determined, you can interpret most things to construe anything you so choose!
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:16 AM
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Excellent post. It amazes me the things people blatantly overlook in the press release in order to to just have a go at William. As you pointed out the press release is quite clear what he will focuse on in the coming year.
I agree. It also amazes me how I get so much crap for simply not liking Charlene's fashion choices. You would think I was assassinating her character for not liking her clothing.
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Actually, the Press Release is quite clear about what the Duke will be doing.
I beg to differ with you..This press release is not making things quite clear..
In fact it is a VERY VERY VAGUE job description of the centre-most royal, who is at the prime of his age, charm and popularity..
And then what is this..considering a number of options..Please..you dont quit an existing job (unless you hate it) and then start considering options. These options should have been considered and very clear and specific plans made before quitting..
A further announcement on which will follow in due course..THAT SHOULD HAVE COME WITH THE ONE ABOUT QUITTING.. People dont have patience to wait..
And atleast for me..that phrase clearly fits the definition of a gap year..
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