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Old 01-20-2014, 12:11 AM
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I think there is the added factor that Kate is an ordinary person and was not even a Lady. Diana was an aristocrat and was called "Lady Di" and it was an easy transition to start calling her "Princess Di". But Kate is just Kate Middleton and people in Australia aren't going to start referring to someone with the easy, ordinary, name of Kate as "the Duchess of Cambridge". We just aren't programmed to do that. It's a tongue twister and this is a country where people tend to give people shortened nicknames (e.g. to call cricketer Shane Warne, "Warney"), they don't extend them.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:30 AM
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That's her title for now. If she becomes Princess of Wales. I am sure people will start calling her Princess Kate then.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:45 AM
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I doubt it. People now a days tend to stick rather firmly to the names that they first came to know someone by - at least in terms of someone famous. It's part of why a good number of female celebrities continue to use their maiden names (or an ex-husband's name) professionally even after they've changed their surname privately.

Kate will remain Kate in the public eye because that's what she was for so long and it's what the press - especially the American press - still refers to her. The difference with Diana, besides being a different age, was that the world didn't know her as Lady Diana for long before she, inaccurately, became Princess Diana. The same won't be true with Kate.
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That's her title for now. If she becomes Princess of Wales. I am sure people will start calling her Princess Kate then.
But we were talking about what she is called in Australia, where she and William will be travelling in a month or so.

And she already is a Princess in the sense that she's married to Prince William so she's Princess William of Wales as well as Duchess of Cambridge, but she's not called Princess Kate here.
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Is she "of Wales"? Or William, for that matter. I thought he ceased to be "of Wales" when he became Duke of Cambridge.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:05 AM
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Is she "of Wales"? Or William, for that matter. I thought he ceased to be "of Wales" when he became Duke of Cambridge.
You're probably right about the "of Wales". But he's still Prince William, so she must be Princess William if it is indeed the case that the wife takes the styles and titles of the husband.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:07 AM
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I think technically he's HRH Prince William, Duke of Camridge, etc, and she's HRH Princess William, Duchess of Camridge, etc, but typically only the main part of the style/title is used - HRH The Duke/Duchess of Cambridge.

Or I could be wrong and Bertie is going to come and correct me.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:31 AM
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Bertie isn't going to correct you as you are correct - William went from HRH Prince William of Wales to HRH Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, Earl of Strathearn and Baron Carrickfeargus on his wedding day so his wife became HRH Princess William, Duchess of Cambridge, Countess of Strathearn and Baroness Carrickfeargus. She stopped being Kate/Catherine anything on that day officially and won't use her own name again until William is King and she is his Queen.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:34 AM
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But then she'll be HM The Queen. She won't be Catherine again until she's a widowed Queen.

And we'll probably still be calling her Kate Middleton.
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She will be HM Queen Catherine more than HM The Queen as HM The Queen is more for a Regnant rather than a Consort. She will appear in the CC most likely as HM The Queen but just as likely HM Queen Catherine while William will be HM The King (he doesn't get to use his name again in official documents).
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But then she'll be HM The Queen. She won't be Catherine again until she's a widowed Queen.

And we'll probably still be calling her Kate Middleton.
You are probably right.
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Hope by the time if she is Queen she gets respect of people calling her by her proper title.
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I think it has very little to do with respect, it's what name people most commonly associate with her and that's Kate Middleton. I imagine when she's Queen the british papers with stop, but the american ones won't.

This has nothing to do with this thread though.
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Your right back on topic.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:11 PM
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Hope by the time if she is Queen she gets respect of people calling her by her proper title.
Then we can only use proper titles here so no more William and Kate at all but TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, no Philip but HRH The Duke of Edinburgh or The Prince of Wales, The Duchess of Cornwall (but then her most senior title is The Princess of Wales even though she isn't using it).

I suspect most people will continue to use the royal's first names as it is easier and simpler than saying their titles anyway.

When, and if, she is Queen she will still be Kate.

She is still, of course, entitled to Kate Middleton as that remains her maiden name and many many women keep their maiden names these days.
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I think that if you ask people to call you Catherine/Duchess of Cambridge people should do so. Although to some people (especially journalists) "Kate"/"Kate Middleton" comes more easily an effort should have been made by now to stop referring to her as such. Helen Mirren is "Helen Mirren" not "Helen Hackford" because it is Helen Mirren she is presenting to world and her achievements as an actress predate her marriage. With the greatest respect Catherine's public life began the day she did her first royal engagement as HRH Duchess of Cambridge and only as the HRH Duchess of Cambridge can she become Queen Catherine consort of the King and eventually Queen Catherine, The Queen Mother. Maybe for the press her heels need to be shorter, her hems longer and her hair tied back before they will accord her the diginity of 'Duchess of Cambridge'.
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Let's get back on topic...the Duke of Cambridge's Current Events.

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The Duke of Cambridge will attend the BAFTAs on February 16th

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Prince William will present Dame Helen Mirren with a fellowship at the EE British Academy Film Awards at the Royal Opera House on Feb 16.
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Helen Mierren and the Duke?
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Does that mean that the Duchess of Cambridge will not be attending? If that is so, I am sorry to hear it.
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