The Duke of Cambridge Current Events 2: January 2014 - July 2018


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What was really significant about Duke of Cambridge's speech is his emphasis on how charities need to join together and also how the Royal Foundation tries to bring charities together on particular issues - without a royal necessarily being a patron (ie Anti-cyber-bullying campaign).

We discussed this at the end of the 2017 thread on British Royal Engagements.
I might have predicted something near to what he said today.


Regarding KP twitter and who it mentions - it mentions Diana, Charles, HMQ and DoE.
 
I hope you don't think I'm a troll TLLK for expressing my disappointment in the Duke of Cambridge for not posting a picture or saying I believe he's still seething. It's just my opinion. As you posted his words (the part) "there is no doubt that public debate seems coarser and more personal that ever".....well, his own words again helped form my opinion. You have to actually think of what pic to post or how many. To me, it was a deliberate slight not posting a photo of his father, that's personal. Vindictive. Ring a bell?
 
I don't think William actually sat down and picked out the picture to post on social media. He has staff that does that sort of thing. There is no way that I would ever think that William thinks any less of his father than he does of his mother or his grandparents or his brother.

If there's anything that William is seething about in this recent speech its the fact that more and more people are relying on social media to "talk" to other people and ever since I can remember, there's a whole lot of time where a person's online persona is totally different from what they're like face to face.
After being online for 28 years, I can attest to this fact being true. All of us here have witnessed "trolls" that come on to post vehemently against a certain person with the main goal of starting up trouble. This is what I believe that William was referring to.

I believe that William is very, very close with his father but then, that's my opinion from how I see it.
 
TLLK said:
It's at about the 1:20 mark Lady Nimue.
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Thank you, TLLK. :flowers: I wound up starting to watch it and then realized he began referencing them early in the video. Thank you. He does a very nice job in how he speaks of Charles in some detail. Never mentions Diana, just refers to 'parents'. Mentions 'grandparents' and then Philip. Gives the historical context for royal interest in charities going back to King George. Looks to me to be a nod to the men in the family, actually.

Missjersey said:
I'm so annoyed. I haven't really posted much about Duke of Cambridge but I was so so happy that his father got a mention..,I was actually thrilled. I even put good job Sir. A few hours later, I looked on Kensington Palace twitter and saw a pic (lovely it was) of two young boys with mum, nothing of father and I thought that's deliberate. Would it have been that hard to post another? Telling to me. I then looked at Clarence House twitter, and they must have been thrilled also for they posted the part of speech honoring dad. Its so telling to me. Earlier when I first joined, I posted something and mentioned I thought William was still seething and nothing has changed my opinion. Maybe this is OT but I am disappointed Lady Nimue.
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I understand, Missjersey. :ermm: This mention was very heartening, like William has matured, what with being a father himself now. I would be inclined to take it as is, and not place too much on the Kensington twitter feed. William's mention was extensive.

Diana was a very possessive and jealous woman. Her 'boys' likely lived with that, trying always to placate her. Potentially any mention of 'papa' in a positive light ignited storms in Diana that had to be placated, so they are still doing that placating. I suspect there is guilt nested in there, too, like for William who was already in his teens and likely doing his push-back to 'mummy', trying to stand on his own without her smothering. I believe he openly argued with her just before her death. One can only suppose the conflict for him. This is all speculation, of course.

Bottom line is families have their dynamics The shock of losing her the way they did must have shattered deep. Who can blame them really? It is obvious that they carry scars. We can be happy that both men (finally) seem to have lucked out with their personal lives.

I think William being so direct at this time is perhaps an indication of familial healing though we will never know. It's definitely a sign of maturation. What we do know from what he said is that William is taking his position beside his father in the line of succession, and will be loyal to his father in the 'family business' of 'being royal'. That's really all we need from him, not so? The rest is personal. JMO.
 
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He mentioned his mother once in his speech, his father four times. He spoke very movingly about his father.

Cepe, I agree with you wholeheartedly about the importance of the messages of collaboration and cooperation in the charitable sector. For several years now, collaboration with other charities has been one of the factors in whether groups get government grants in my area of the world.

Searching on the charities commission website gives a sense of the fractured nature of the charity sector. There are 264 charities with "mental health" in their name... surely some of those are doing overlapping work and could -- instead of scrapping over diminishing dollars -- work together. It would reduce overhead, which would allow more money to go to programs.
 
Maybe I’m over reacting folks. As I said I was so thrilled to hear him speak of his father and hoped for this for so long. I ache thinking what they went through and had to deal with growing up. I was so happy but maybe someday in the future I’ll see a dad pic posted. Baby steps. So apologies if I offended anyone. I’ll leave it here that it’s a good start!
 
Missjersey said:
Maybe I’m over reacting folks. As I said I was so thrilled to hear him speak of his father and hoped for this for so long. I ache thinking what they went through and had to deal with growing up. I was so happy but maybe someday in the future I’ll see a dad pic posted. Baby steps. So apologies if I offended anyone. I’ll leave it here that it’s a good start!
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His father is still here, with him--he has a relationship with him. His mom is gone. That is the difference.
 
Missjersey said:
I hope you don't think I'm a troll TLLK for expressing my disappointment in the Duke of Cambridge for not posting a picture or saying I believe he's still seething. It's just my opinion. As you posted his words (the part) "there is no doubt that public debate seems coarser and more personal that ever".....well, his own words again helped form my opinion. You have to actually think of what pic to post or how many. To me, it was a deliberate slight not posting a photo of his father, that's personal. Vindictive. Ring a bell?
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No I don't believe that you are a troll Missjersey. IMO the reason that KP didn't post a similar photo of the brothers with Charles. (In their childhood with their father while he was on a charity visit.) is simply that one might not exist among their personal family photos. Charles didn't really take his sons along on his public duties because the boys were at school.
 
TLLK said:
No I don't believe that you are a troll Missjersey. IMO the reason that KP didn't post a similar photo of the brothers with Charles. (In their childhood with their father while he was on a charity visit.) is simply that one might not exist among their personal family photos. Charles didn't really take his sons along on his public duties because the boys were at school.
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I think you also have to remember that William and Harry don't have to worry about their father's personality fading from memory or understanding because their father is still very much alive, doing events, with a press office of his own releasing information about his activities. They can be very proud of and satisfied with their father and not feel as though their father needs much in the way of assistance from them their office at KP in getting the word out about him on social media, etc.

Theirs is, however, the only royal office likely to make an agenda item of keeping their mother's memory alive.
 
:previous: Good point about KP being the one place to keep Diana's memories alive!
 
loonytick said:
I think you also have to remember that William and Harry don't have to worry about their father's personality fading from memory or understanding because their father is still very much alive, doing events, with a press office of his own releasing information about his activities. They can be very proud of and satisfied with their father and not feel as though their father needs much in the way of assistance from them their office at KP in getting the word out about him on social media, etc.

Theirs is, however, the only royal office likely to make an agenda item of keeping their mother's memory alive.
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Thank you for more eloquently expressing in more detail what I tried to allude to upthread.:flowers:
 
loonytick said:
I think you also have to remember that William and Harry don't have to worry about their father's personality fading from memory or understanding because their father is still very much alive, doing events, with a press office of his own releasing information about his activities. They can be very proud of and satisfied with their father and not feel as though their father needs much in the way of assistance from them their office at KP in getting the word out about him on social media, etc.
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I'm not sure I understand why this would even be in their minds. It would be very odd. :ermm: Of course they are not responsible for any 'keeping their father's memory alive', not needed, of course, He lives. However, there is something to be said regarding normal references to a very much alive father in everyday activities. The failure to mention their father is what is odd, not that they would not mention a deceased parent. One can understand mentioning the mother occasionally, but not mentioning at all a living parent is odd, it just is, and is noteworthy because of the omission.

They also have not done many joint events (father and sons), though that seems to be on the wane. The lack of formal interaction between the sons and father is noticeable, but that does seem to be changing.

loonytick said:
Theirs is, however, the only royal office likely to make an agenda item of keeping their mother's memory alive.
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Why would we assume that? And why is that necessary? It's an honest question. :ermm: Does the Queen make a point of keeping her mother's (or father's) memory alive? And what is meant by 'alive'? What is it that is being continually 'kept alive'? Honest questions. Hope you can explain.
 
Lady Nimue said:
They also have not done many joint events (father and sons), though that seems to be on the wane. The lack of formal interaction between the sons and father is noticeable, but that does seem to be changing.
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We do not see Anne doing engagements with Charles or the Queen doing engagements with Anne and Edward doing engagements with Andrew. This is how it is in working their public lives. They cover more ground individually than they would as duos or as a group. All their engagements in the public arena have a specific purpose to them and its not the platform to promote their own families or air their grievances. They may make remarks in speeches that has a purpose to what the speech is about or casually drop a tidbit on how the kids are but to attribute any kind of a "personal" platform when on a public engagement is unnecessary. They work hard at keeping the lines drawn between public and private. Its the media and the people that read things into things that just aren't there.
 
Osipi said:
We do not see Anne doing engagements with Charles or the Queen doing engagements with Anne and Edward doing engagements with Andrew.
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Not sure how this disputes what I am saying. I am not suggesting that Charles and his siblings have been doing events together. That is rare, though it comes up occasionally. William and Harry have been doing joint events lots. And I for sure recall Anne doing events with the Queen, less so with Andrew and Edward, but definitely with Charles every now and again (and Charles consistently references his parents in public).

However, as I said, the lack of joint events seems to be changing. It's in the past. Just recently Charles and William did a joint event, for example. Now William is openly referencing parents, and mentioning Charles in particular (not just Diana). So things are changing. All good. :flowers:
 
This is true that they're pulling together more as a team than they have in the past. It was around the time of the announcement of Philip's retirement that they threw out the term of "Team Windsor".

The point I'm trying to make is that its been presented that it seems that in a speech or on public engagements, there is more "attention" paid to Diana and not to Charles. I don't think its any kind of an indication of anything going on behind the scenes in private such as animosities or a lack of closeness or anything else that can be construed out of statements made at a public engagement.

Diana will always seem to be mentioned more to the public. Reason being is that she is no longer here and its her two sons that are striving to carry on some of the work she started. There are going to be anniversaries where they're expected to remember her. They do want to keep her memory alive. With their father, they're still in the process of making memories and there is a lot of road they will all travel together on yet they still persevere to keep that wall up between private and public and that's how it should be.

I just think that we need to remember that when these people are doing public engagements and talking to the public, that the door that closes off their private lives are firmly shut and locked.
 
Didn't Harry do an interview with his father for the BBC in December last year which showed a far closer relationship than it was thought? TBH, I think that the relationship between the boys and their father are close, especially since the boys are more mature and are having their own experiences as husband/future husband and father/future father.
 
Children at a west London school had surprise visitors in the form of Prince William and Professor Green this morning, as they joined an assembly on cyberbullying.

Ark Burlington Danes Academy a school for more than 1,000 eleven to 18-year-olds welcomed the royal and the rapper to the assembly hosted by YouTuber Dan Howell.

Pupils were joined by students from Kensington Aldridge Academy (KAA) who were temporarily hosted at the school when it had to close in the aftermath of the Grenfell Tower fire.

During the assembly, William will meet with social media influencers and young people who’ve been working on the campaign for 'Stop Speak Support', a new digital code of conduct launched by the Royal Foundation's Taskforce on Cyberbullying.

The campaign aims to help young people navigate life online and support them in responding to cyberbullying.
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Read more: Prince William and Professor Green join school assembly | Daily Mail Online
 
Prince William also addressed the issues of self-esteem.
The Duke, who visited a west London school to discuss mental health and cyber bullying, warned teenagers to remember the amount of “fakeness” online, with the pictures of bodies they see on the internet often heavily edited.
In a discussion about how to stay safe and happy online, he urged students not to feel they had to aim for the perfect pictures of beauty they saw on social media and websites, admitting: “I worry for you girls.”
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...r-green-join-forces-surprise-school-assembly/
 
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The Duke of Cambridge made a surprise appearance to a school in West London today to talk to children about mental health issues along with rapper Professor Green

 
The Duke of Cambridge will visit Triumph Motorcycles and MIRA Technology Park in Warwickshire on Tuesday 20th February, for a day that celebrates world-class British vehicular manufacture, research and development.

Via Kensington Palace Twitter
 
Court Circular 9/2

The Duke of Cambridge today attended the United Kingdom Search and Rescue Conference at the National Exhibition Centre, Birmingham.

Via Cepe Smith Twitter
 
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Nice video of William riding the bike on twitter. I wonder how often he zips around on his bike (we have all heard how Kate isn't a fan of him riding them) and no one has a clue who he is due to the helmet!


LaRae
 
Pranter said:
Nice video of William riding the bike on twitter. I wonder how often he zips around on his bike (we have all heard how Kate isn't a fan of him riding them) and no one has a clue who he is due to the helmet!


LaRae
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I think he mentioned some time back that he don’t ride much now since the kids were born.
 
Which makes no sense to me...flying rescue helicopters is a very high risk job and he did that until a few months ago..and only stopped due to having to assume more royal duties.


LaRae
 
The Duke of Cambridge Current Events 2: January 2014

Helicopter isn’t that high a risk especially when it properly maintained. Royals travel by helicopters all the time. A person is way more likely to get into an accident in a car or a motorcycle. For a car, William would have a police escort but he doesn’t have that with a bike. It would be easier for some car to take him out without even knowing it was William.

Kate didn’t the like the bike. William talked about how becoming a father changed him. He was more at risk for injury or death from the motorcycle so he gave it up.
 
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