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Old 01-27-2014, 08:17 PM
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I'd say we're on the same page. This is terrible, and I'm so glad that William is doing something about it.
Oh I loved that show.

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Thinking about what happened to the animal, literally makes me sick. so mad .And so proud of William. Good on him! He and Siegfried from all creatures great and small would make a great team! he does us all proud!
I adored that show. Would Harry make as much mischief as Tristan?
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:33 PM
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I adored that show. Would Harry make as much mischief as Tristan?
Prince Harry would have been great as Tristan. I don't think Harry gets in as much trouble as Tristan, but they would be good friends.

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I adored that show. Would Harry make as much mischief as Tristan?
I have a feeling that Prince William must feel like Siegfried at times.
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Prince Harry would have been great as Tristan. I don't think Harry gets in as much trouble as Tristan, but they would be good friends.
I think Harry and Tristan would have been kindred spirits. They know how to make others laugh with their antics (and get into a bit of mischief too).

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I have a feeling that Prince William must feel like Siegfried at times.
I won't doubt it.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:35 AM
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The Duke of Cambridge, as President of United for Wildlife attended the United for Wildlife Symposium which focuses on international wildlife trafficking at the Zoological Society London this morning. Will Travers, CEO, Born Free met ITN at the event and explained the involvement of the Duke and his father Prince Charles has been a catalyst for change. .
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HRH Duke of Cambridge and President of United for Wildlife speaks as he attends the United for Wildlife Symposium at the Zoological Society on February 12, 2014 in London, England-
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/1QpH1...de/3Dvg0GctSgX

You can rewind this event to 1:45 and watch William's attendance and speech-

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Thank you for sharing the videos of this event.
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:58 AM
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The Duke of Cambridge gives a speech at an evening reception for the Illegal Wildlife Trade conference at Natural History Museum on February 12, 2014 in London-
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Duke of Cambridge attended a reception at the Natural History Museum, hosted by UK Government, on the eve of the London Conference on the Illegal Wildlife Trade last night. His Royal Highness met a selection of guests before delivering a speech-
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:53 AM
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Funny.. He was boar hunting just a few days ago.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:11 AM
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He was boar hunting just a few days ago.
Perhaps you are unable to understand the disinction between legal and illegal ?

Hunting Wild Boar is legal and necessary [they do untold damage to crops, landscape ,and sometimes humans]. It as imperative to keep their numbers under control.

They also make absolutely delicious casserole ! So nothing will be wasted.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:49 AM
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I do know the difference between legal and illegal but I didn't know much about the animal itself. I admit I'm simply not a fan of hunting.

The timing of him taking a stance against (illegal) hunting but partaking in a hunting trip himself sort of ironic.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:55 AM
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The timing of him taking a stance against (illegal) hunting but partaking in a hunting trip himself sort of ironic.
I am not sure how the two are related. He is not taking a stand against hunting per se, just illegal poaching.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:57 AM
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Doesn't that go pretty much hand in hand though?
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:22 AM
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Doesn't that go pretty much hand in hand though?

No.

Poaching is a form of hunting that occurs in violation of hunting laws and regulations. It is essentially deciding that the laws don't apply to you and thus that you can hunt without regards to season, population control, or hunting methods.

Legal hunting occurs within a confined set of restrictions that take into consideration whether an animal is endangered, when the species breeds, using approved methods of hunting (ie some weapons are approved while others aren't, it's typically not approved to hunt from a moving vehicle, the inhumane treatment of animals is prohibited, etc). There are actually a lot of restrictions placed on hunting, and frequently the end goal there is to either provide food for the hunters or to cull the growth of a species for the good of the surrounding population (ie allowing the wild boat population to grow endangers other wildlife in the area as well as the human population).

In short, you can have a problem with poaching and be in favour of conservation while also engaging in hunting as a past time. The two (or 3) don't contradict each other.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:38 AM
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Doesn't that go pretty much hand in hand though?
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No.

Poaching is a form of hunting that occurs in violation of hunting laws and regulations. It is essentially deciding that the laws don't apply to you and thus that you can hunt without regards to season, population control, or hunting methods.

Legal hunting occurs within a confined set of restrictions that take into consideration whether an animal is endangered, when the species breeds, using approved methods of hunting (ie some weapons are approved while others aren't, it's typically not approved to hunt from a moving vehicle, the inhumane treatment of animals is prohibited, etc). There are actually a lot of restrictions placed on hunting, and frequently the end goal there is to either provide food for the hunters or to cull the growth of a species for the good of the surrounding population (ie allowing the wild boat population to grow endangers other wildlife in the area as well as the human population).

In short, you can have a problem with poaching and be in favour of conservation while also engaging in hunting as a past time. The two (or 3) don't contradict each other.
Very well put, Ish!

I remain surprised by the number of posts that we have seen on TRF that seem to demonstrate a clear lack of understanding between conservation of endangered species and hunting, per se.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:13 AM
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Very well put, Ish!
I agree.

People who are 'anti' hunting are almost always carried away by emotion on the subject. They never say what they would do in a world where wild [and often highly dangerous] animals are left to multiply unchecked ?
For them it is easier [and more emotionally satisfying] to demonise the hunter rather than formulate alternatives...
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:35 AM
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Thank you Ish for providing a clear and comprehensive post on the difference between legal hunting and illegal poaching.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:41 AM
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No.

Poaching is a form of hunting that occurs in violation of hunting laws and regulations. It is essentially deciding that the laws don't apply to you and thus that you can hunt without regards to season, population control, or hunting methods.

Legal hunting occurs within a confined set of restrictions that take into consideration whether an animal is endangered, when the species breeds, using approved methods of hunting (ie some weapons are approved while others aren't, it's typically not approved to hunt from a moving vehicle, the inhumane treatment of animals is prohibited, etc). There are actually a lot of restrictions placed on hunting, and frequently the end goal there is to either provide food for the hunters or to cull the growth of a species for the good of the surrounding population (ie allowing the wild boat population to grow endangers other wildlife in the area as well as the human population).

In short, you can have a problem with poaching and be in favour of conservation while also engaging in hunting as a past time. The two (or 3) don't contradict each other.
Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know this!
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:24 PM
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Moreover, and somewhat ironically, those who hunt lawfully are frequently advocates for conservation. I suspect it is because they are actually out in the wilderness and thus have a deep appreciation of what it offers. Certainly the fees they pay to hunt in the US are frequently spent preserving habitats which is good for all species.
One of the issues is that many of the natural predators of species (ex. wolves for deer) have been eliminated from the habitat by man, the result is overpopulation of the species that used to be kept at reasonable numbers by the now extinct predator. Too many of one kind of animal results in loss of habitat for other species. Ideally, of course, the apex species (ex. wolves) could be reintroduced, thus eliminating the need for as much human culling (of deer, for ex.,) but that is unlikely.
Feral hogs are in a different category here in the US as they were introduced and are a particularly problematic species. They destroy habitat reducing the population of native species (plant and animal.) They can dig 3' deep, thus fences don't hold them in or out. They destroy crop land and as they are introduced they have no native natural predators, thus they are wildly successful at reproducing. They are a growing menace costing billions in lost food and destroyed habitat.
BTW, I saw about 20 feral hogs darting across a field a couple of months ago when I was out for a drive in Carmel Valley CA - the babies (about a dozen) were cute, the adults not so much.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:51 PM
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Feral pigs are a very serious environmental pest in Australia, and it has been estimated that they impact agriculture to the tune of more than $100 million annually, and that might be a conservative estimate. They are opportunistic omnivores and kill and eat baby lambs and goats as well as native animals. Them rooting around in rainforests does a lot of damage to native ecosystems, too, and they spread pests and diseases. It is unrealistic to expect to be able to completely eliminate them, but there can be no doubt that they need to be controlled and a lot of time and money is devoted to feral pig control programs. Shooting is but one of the methods, and it is effective way of controlling numbers. I have no objection whatsoever to people hunting these pests. All I ask of people who choose to do it is that the shooter be experienced and skilled and seek to kill the animal as quickly as possible, for it is not the animal's fault it is a pest and it deserves to be treated humanely and not left, fatally wounded, to wander around in agony for days before dying. A clean kill is actually all I ask of people who participate in any form of legal hunting.
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All I ask of people who choose to do it is that the shooter be experienced and skilled and seek to kill the animal as quickly as possible, for it is not the animal's fault it is a pest and it deserves to be treated humanely and not left, fatally wounded, to wander around in agony for days before dying. A clean kill is actually all I ask of people who participate in any form of legal hunting.

Well put.

I don't think any legal hunter can guarantee a clean kill, but that is always the goal. This is a big part of the reason why some weapons are allowable while others aren't - a trained marksmen with a gun is likely to get a clean kill, while a trap isn't. The person who uses the trap instead is considered a poacher because they're causing undue harm to the animal and using inhumane methods.
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The story is the Mail which has the Duke of Cambridge calling for all of the ivory in BP to be destroyed has me confused.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-poachers.html

The article states the William has hidden all the ivory at Clarence House where he lives. This alone makes me question the accuracy of the article.

The items in the royal palaces are part of the royal collection which are owned by the state not the monarch. The ivory items are not new and have already been made. For example, there is a carved ivory cup and lid with animals and the goddess Diana on it that Fiona Bruce featured in the Windsor Castle episode of the Queen's Palaces. It has the nickname of the brain. It was made in the 1700s. What is the benefit of destroying this 300 yr old item?
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