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Old 02-18-2014, 08:42 AM
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Mark Phillips turned down a title when he married Anne that is why Peter and Zara don't have titles. Diana's mother had the courtesy title of Honorable as a daughter of a baron. She was Vicountess Althrop during her marriage and after her divorce she was Hon. Frances, Vicountess Althrop. The Vicountess title was drop when she remarried.
Frances Shand Kydd was never a peer- that's my point. The "Hon," which is only ever used in the third person and in written address is only because she was the daughter of a baron. She was not given a peerage in her own right simply because of her daughter and grandson, which is what people are calling for for the Middletons.
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No one that matters is calling for that. Everybody that does not have a peerage is a commoner. Most everyone in George's immediate family is one except William and Charles plus the Queen and Philip.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:42 PM
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If one or both of the Middletons ever does anything worthy of a gong of some sort in the Honours' list, I hope they get recognised. A title's off the cards, but an honour would be just fine if it is deserved. I have a feeling that if they are secretly doing profound good works, somehow that knowledge will become known to those who are responsible for handing out the gongs.

However I suspect they will draw some comfort from the knowledge that because of their hard work and success and example they were able to give their daughter a good education and a dedication to her studies such that she was able to secure for herself a place in a prestigious university where she was then to meet her future husband. As a result of those happy circumstances their grandson will one day be King of the UK and its Realms, and I trust that knowledge will provide the Middletons with an adequate sense of satisfaction and accomplishment.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:50 PM
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^^^There is that saying that a good job is reward in itself. I think that could apply in the Middletons' case.
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:49 AM
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As chance would have it, at a dinner party the other night we were discussing hereditary titles. During the last few decades there have been scant few, viz -

The Earl of Stockton (Harold Macmillan) - Conservative PM. Title currently held by his grandson.

1st Viscount Tonypandy (George Thomas) - Labour, Speaker of the House. No children.

1st Viscount Whitelaw (Willie Whitelaw) - Conservative politicians. No male heirs

Sir Dennis Thatcher - husband of Baroness Margaret Thatcher. Title held by their son, Sir Mark Thatcher.
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:29 PM
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Even if they could get a title, where are the titles for Zara Tindall and Peter Phillips? Why was Diana's mother never given a peerage - she remained the Hon. Frances Shand Kydd, a commoner. Wouldn't the same logic have applied to her as the mother of the then future queen and grandmother of the future king?
Frances Shand Kydd would have become a Countess, had she not divorced. As hereditary titles typically descend through the male, what point would there be in giving her a title, since her son Charles was already destined to be an Earl in due course. More significant, probably, was that Diana's relationship w/ the Royal family and w/ her mother was volatile at best. If many biographers are to be believed the Royal family was displeased with Diana's family for failing to disclose her emotional 'problems' prior to the marriage. In any event, Diana's sister Jane became a Baroness when her husband was granted a life peerage in 1999.
IMO, the Middletons are a very different kettle of fish, they and their daughter have been remarkably discreet and supportive of the Royal family. They have not responded to the slurs and name calling flung @ them by the press, for that alone, I would think some recognition was not out of line in due time - maybe Baron and Baroness Middleton? Not that I think they are particularly interested in such a thing.
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It is the conundrum that has perplexed royal watchers ever since a 20-year-old Kate Middleton sashayed down the catwalk in her see-through dress and caught the eye of Prince William.
The tale of their up-and-down romance and glittering marriage are the stuff of fairy tales.
Yet there has always been one rather mysterious missing link in the story: just where did the money come from to pay for Kate’s private education and a life surrounded by the children of the rich?
The family tragedy that helped the Middletons make their millions | Mail Online
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James Middleton's family values: the Duchess of Cambridge's younger brother talks dyslexia, marshmallows and Donna Air-
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Va-va-voom! RT @PippaStyle Pippa Middleton in Vanity Fair June 2014!!! pic.twitter.com/LMp8A6LR1x
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The way that horse is eyeballing Pippa's hat, it looks like it wants to either wear it or eat it!
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Love the outfit. Color is great. Hat is fab!

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Now that is one of her very best outfits of all, love the color on her and the style of the dress is really excellent fitting, the hat, oh how I want that hat, love it. And the horse, he is beautiful and I also want him!
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The could be sister-in-laws: Pippa Middleton takes brother James' partner Donna Air under her wing for double date with friends-
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Revealed: tragic tale of how Duchess of Cambridge's grandfather died-
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The Duchess of Cambridge: Family, Wealth and Background

Where was the hubbub when Harry had his Senteable event in the same hotel earlier this year? Harry and Wills were playing polo at a ground owned by the Sultan. But Kate can't go to her 1st cousin wedding because of the venue that she had nothing to do with. The human rights record in Qatar is pretty bad too- should people start boycotting things that they own which is half of London?

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Apparently Pippa and James are part of a team that doing a bicycle race across the US starting on Saturday.

http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/raa..._Entry_ID=3199
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I wish them well on their ride (plus or minus 3,000 miles/4828 kms) is one arduous way of seeing America! Hope they have a great time and raise lots of money!

"Duchess of Cambridge’s sister in 8-person relay team for Race Across America which starts on Saturday"

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Pippa Middleton to ride in world’s toughest bike race this month | road.cc
A little more detail, apparently the team is in honour of a young man who died descending Mt. Everest and Pippa used to date the young man's brother.
I have to head down to SoCal later this week for work - but not that far south. Wonder what route they'll take east.
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Why is every time a Middleton is pictured with a cocker spaniel people say its Lupo? There are multiple black cocker spaniels. Pippa isn't picking up Lupo from a kennel. Lupo isn't going in a kennel if W&K are at KP. He isn't going even if they are not at KP. Lupo has people to take care of him.
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