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A question: are the Middletons being particularly focused on because - why? Other handsome children still unmarried? Middle-class - like 'us'? Because I don't recall - though I was not on TRF then - Sarah Fergerson's or Diana Spencer's or Sophie Rhys' families having to put up with media attention solely because of their new royal connections - or am I mistaken?
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This family, has been focused on, albeit less so lately now the wedding fever has worn off, more than any other family who's daughter married into the RF. Mainly I think, because she married a son of Diana and her and her family have been in the limelight for 11 or so years.
As for members being on the TRF at the time of previous weddings, it was set up in 2002 so it has only covered "live" (for want of a better word), the most recent European & Foreign royal weddings.
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Please note that several off topic posts relating to Kate's facial expressions, the FBI/CIA and their use of facial analysis, Camilla, etc have been deleted as OFF TOPIC.
Let get back on topic with Kate's family, wealth and background.
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So anybody know what is happening with Pippa? She was in the news about being in a car and there was a gun present? I only got a little bit of info from the news.
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Have a look at this thread - Pippa Middleton. 
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04-16-2012, 04:52 PM
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That's an assumption. We don't know if they were 'all happy' at all with the changes they bargained for - never mind the changes they didn't bargain for.
A question: are the Middletons being particularly focused on because - why? Other handsome children still unmarried? Middle-class - like 'us'? Because I don't recall - though I was not on TRF then - Sarah Fergerson's or Diana Spencer's or Sophie Rhys' families having to put up with media attention solely because of their new royal connections - or am I mistaken?
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IMO the families of Sarah and Sophie would never have come under a large amount of scrutiny because their daughters didn't marry a future monarch. Diana did, but the Spencers had the sort of wealth that enabled them to isolate themselves somewhat from a certain amount of unwanted press attention. If nothing else, when you have a large family estate at your disposal, you can physically withdraw if needed.
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Well Diana's sisters were older & already married so there was no press trying to match them with some eligible heir. Her brother Charles seemed to enjoy the press he received and even did some work for an American TV network. Sarahs sister was also married and living in Australia so was far removed from the British tabloids. I have never read or seen anything of Sophies brother since their wedding in 1999.
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And you can prove your serious accusation how exactly?
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By first hand experience. We wanted to do almost exactly the same thing to our property in South Derbyshire. We were just ordinary people, the plans were not approved. Shortly after, we sold the farm and moved.
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By first hand experience. We wanted to do almost exactly the same thing to our property in South Derbyshire. We were just ordinary people, the plans were not approved. Shortly after, we sold the farm and moved.
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So, because you were refused planning, you believe that gives you the right to accuse the Middletons of essentially breaking the law? That's a huge accusation to make. Are you suggesting that the planning system in the UK is fundamentally fraudulent and that only important people with connections get planning approval?
That's demonstrably not the case. My aunt and uncle got planning approval recently to build an extension and they don't know anyone in planning, nor are they well known public figures.
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Well Diana's sisters were older & already married so there was no press trying to match them with some eligible heir. Her brother Charles seemed to enjoy the press he received and even did some work for an American TV network. Sarahs sister was also married and living in Australia so was far removed from the British tabloids. I have never read or seen anything of Sophies brother since their wedding in 1999.
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Sarah's father Ronald Ferguson had a few indiscretions after the wedding.
I've never read anything about Mark Phillips', Sophie Rhys-Jones', or Timothy Laurence's families. Sophie's mother passed away a few years ago, but that is the only time I've read anything about her.
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How close is South Derbyshire is to Berksire? It can't be from the same district? Even in Florida different cities from the same counties have different rule on how do to things. And some change their rules when a new major/local government get elected
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By first hand experience. We wanted to do almost exactly the same thing to our property in South Derbyshire. We were just ordinary people, the plans were not approved. Shortly after, we sold the farm and moved.
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IMO the families of Sarah and Sophie would never have come under a large amount of scrutiny because their daughters didn't marry a future monarch. Diana did, but the Spencers had the sort of wealth that enabled them to isolate themselves somewhat from a certain amount of unwanted press attention. If nothing else, when you have a large family estate at your disposal, you can physically withdraw if needed.
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I'm going to agree with KittyAtlanta - I suspect that there would be some consideration of the Middletons given their predicament - the prying public and all - and I would make the same decision in their favor if in the position to decide. Absolutely, their situation warrants special consideration and breaks. IMO.
More to the point, though, I would think the Middletons need that 'large family estate' behind which to withdraw. In fact, were I Charles, I'd make them an offer to help with a purchase - or if Queen, I'd consider making something available to them. It is true that other families were pre-Internet, or did not have marriageable, photogenic siblings toodling around making them 'interesting'. It seems that what the Middletons are experiencing is more intrusive - so more protection from the glare is needed. Get thee to an estate!
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By first hand experience. We wanted to do almost exactly the same thing to our property in South Derbyshire. We were just ordinary people, the plans were not approved. Shortly after, we sold the farm and moved.
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This is a fallacy, arguing from insufficient examples. Just on this thread, we have some approvals and some non-approvals. The South Derbyshire council surely has its own rulebook (and the full nature of the plans are not disclosed in any case).
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Generally, I think that planning laws / regulations / consents / refusals will vary from place to place and even parish to parish. In my village there are two identical houses side by side which local planning bylaws state must remain identical. One owner sort permission for a new porch which the parish council refused but the local council approved - over-riding the parish council. Who knows that in a few years time when there are new members of the parish council, they will approve such applications yet the council above them may refuse. It's all down to the individuals on the council at the time.
However, it would be wrong not to allow neighbours of the Middletons to build similar extentions and it is likely that the permission granted to the Middletons will act as a precident for that local area.
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This is a fallacy, arguing from insufficient examples. Just on this thread, we have some approvals and some non-approvals. The South Derbyshire council surely has its own rulebook (and the full nature of the plans are not disclosed in any case).
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Of course, they have their own rulebook. My example is as good as any other you might come across. I'll not post further about my "fallacies."
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JACK, your point about the Middleton's setting precidence for others in the area is well taken. I imagine that everyone who has been turned down in the past will be re-petitioning for their plans.
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Pippa Middleton’s brother James is following in her footsteps by taking part in next month’s gruelling Highland Cross Challenge in Scotland. Pippa, 28, took part in the 50-mile run and cycle ride last year and now James, 25, is keen to test himself. James raised £12,000 for charity in a Swedish cross-country ski challenge earlier this year with Pippa. ‘This is not for charity, it’s just a bit of fun,’ says a friend.
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Nice article , I Think Prince Harry & Chelsy They are a Very Beautiful Couple So Why Not If They Back again & She Looks So Beautiful In White Dress & Black Jacket , Thank you for Posting Artemisia .
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