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Old 07-27-2013, 09:59 AM
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I just don't see any reason to call them liars about it...if they say they didn't know then they didn't know. There are people who don't want to know ahead of time.


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Old 07-27-2013, 10:08 AM
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Date of baptism has been declared?

Not yet - I wouldn't expect to hear the date until maybe a week or so before it happens - possibly even only a day or so earlier. Unless they decide to break the BRF tradition is will be a private event so no need to announce it too far in advance.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:11 AM
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People were talking about how they were honoring the Spencers because his cousin 3 cousin have George, Alexander and Louis has their first name.

Louis is also the name of Camilla's grandson.

Those name are pretty common in upper class society it seems
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:26 AM
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I just don't see any reason to call them liars about it...if they say they didn't know then they didn't know. There are people who don't want to know ahead of time.


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I agree with you. Many parents have names for both a boy and girl ready even if they don't know what the new baby will be. The Duke and Duchess are tuned into the traditions of the royal house and had most likely picked traditional female names as well. Who knows, some parents have names chosen long before they are even pregnant.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:28 AM
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that jenny packham dress Kate wore is a bespoke version so i assume the couple knew the gender already as i think that dress was made before the birth. also, the only handwritten part in the birth announcement is the birth time--that says a lot i guess.
I believe two dresses were brought to the hospital (by Kate's assistant and hair dresser) after the birth of the baby. There's a picture somewhere in all of the Daily Mail articles, of them arriving with the garment bags.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:54 AM
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I believe two dresses were brought to the hospital (by Kate's assistant and hair dresser) after the birth of the baby. There's a picture somewhere in all of the Daily Mail articles, of them arriving with the garment bags.
Cinrit is right. Also, one article referred to the dress as "lilac." I went back and looked, and yes, it could be lilac - a mixture of pink and blue. In any event, this couple has been accused of lying so many times and then when events play out it becomes clear that they never did. I guess haters gotta hate
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:33 AM
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I personally don't think people that think the family knew the gender of the baby are haters. In fact, I think there are two kinds of people in the world:
  • Those that would want to know the gender of their own child and can't understand how anyone would not do so
  • Those that would not want to know the gender of their child and can't understand anyone who would seek that info
OK - I exaggerate - but there is some truth to the preferences.


I saw their choice to not know the gender as very understandable. Particualary for William, who has two jobs, every moment is planned and committed. For both, any activity involves security and logistic issues. There are very RARE surprises for this couple. They only get to be spontaneous in their choice of dinner at home (OK, another exaggeration, but you get my point). I think keeping the gender a surprise until the birth would have been a wonderful treat for them.

It's not as if they are so financially strained that they had to panic if someone gifted them the wrong colored romper!

Just my thoughts on the matter. I'm happy that they seem so HAPPY!
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:51 AM
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Tt doesn't matter if it is a boy! I'me very happy for them. I'm sure that they knew the gender but it's their right to choose not to tell it! Harry gave away the sex and many clues made clear that she was having a boy but people said she was having a girl because the wanted it so! Now I hope that they have so privacy... (Even if I am eager to see that adorable child again:-))
Besides, I'm not surprised... Prince Philipe had 4 children and 3 were boys! charles had 2 sons! Genetics! :-D
About the name if she had a girl: it was said (although I don't think if there are some reliable sources) that catherine would have named her Alexandra...
I love the name Alexander and Louis is pretty cute... George is very traditional but elegant:-)
Oh I want to see the baby again!
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:11 PM
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There was a four hour gap between everyone being told officially someone could have easy printed out the boy sign there was plenty of time. Or they just had one for a girl or a boy ready to go. I think they knew didn't Prince Harry and Eugenie both say it was going to be a boy? Diana knew Harry was a boy and didn't tell anyone she saw it on the sonagram. Catherine and William may off wanted that as their own little secret since they have to share everything else with the public I think it's understandable.
I agree with the other arguments concerning the handwriting except this one, I have to respectfully disagree. Yes there's a four hour gap but if they have time to print out the gender in these four hours, why didn't they print out the birth time as well?

Edit: I took back what I said now that I've seen the article
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:12 PM
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Prince Charles said publicly, that it was a complete shock to the couple when they were told the sex of their baby.

Maybe, they were expecting a girl!

Royal baby news: Kate Middleton and Prince William DIDN'T know sex of baby before it was born - Mirror Online

I thought it was a girl, as did so many others.

http://www.royalty.nu/news.html
Thanks for the article, now it seems that they really didn't know the gender before :)

I took back what I said earlier but honestly I didn't expect backlash like this. I respect you guys' arguments but really, I wasn't very serious about it. I was saying it in a light way.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:13 PM
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I agree with the other arguments concerning the handwriting except this one, I have to respectfully disagree. Yes there's a four hour gap but if they have time to print out the gender in these four hours, why didn't they print out the birth time as well?
So the doctors can fill it in and sign it.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:20 PM
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How do you know she didn't have a pink dress there as well as the blue?
She actually did not have ANY dress at the hospital to wear home. Remember the photo of a woman arriving at the hospital with a garment bag? This was probably the dress and it might have been pink if the baby was a girl. I believe William and Kate when they say they didn't know the gender of the baby. There are many future parents like that. It's about the only real surprise left to parents.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:22 PM
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So the doctors can fill it in and sign it.
They could have gotten the time of birth during the call that revealed the sex. The most likely explanation is that they printed two in advance. It is also possible they knew in advance, but didn't release the information. Either way, does it really matter?
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:25 PM
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I 'm still convinced the knew:-) but, it doesn't mind!
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:59 PM
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I don't believe Harry and Eugenie broke the news that they were having a boy. It was from the same tabloids that gave us 5 different due dates. As Harry said himself, don't believe majority of the things you heard from the media
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:09 PM
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I don't know why some people choose to conveniently forgot that in both Charles and William birth announcement, only the time and the doctors signatures were writing out, everything else was typed
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What does it matter what colour dress catherine wore when she left the hospital and why does the colour of her dress have to have anything to do with the gender of her child? When she was pregnant every time she wore a pink dress posters were claiming she was signaling the gender of the baby, same when she wore blue. Oddly enough those same posters never said anything when she wore red, black, green or polka dots. Maybe she just wore a blue dress to leave the hospital because she liked the colour and it fit well.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:47 PM
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House of Lords: Tuesday, 23 July 2013
Birth of a son to Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cambridge
Motion For An Humble Address-
Lords Hansard text for*23*Jul*201323 July 2013 (pt 0001)

Very nice tributes from the House of Lords.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:56 PM
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House of Lords: Tuesday, 23 July 2013
Birth of a son to Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cambridge
Motion For An Humble Address-
Lords Hansard text for*23*Jul*201323 July 2013 (pt 0001)

Very nice tributes from members of Parliament.
It isn't "members of parliament" which refers to elected members of the House of Commons. This is specifically from Members of the House of Lords, hence the message is

"....May it please Your Royal Highnesses to accept the loyal congratulations of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament "
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Old 07-27-2013, 03:06 PM
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It isn't "members of parliament" which refers to elected members of the House of Commons. This is specifically from Members of the House of Lords, hence the message is

"....May it please Your Royal Highnesses to accept the loyal congratulations of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament "
Thanks for the correction.
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