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Old 07-25-2013, 10:55 AM
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The things that are being linked with this baby's name, birth, clothes etc are amazing...

next thing will be that Nostradamus made a proficy for this baby...
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:57 AM
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So... is he also the Earl of Strathearn since that is William's second title? Does it work like nobility in that regard? Or does William retain all 3 titles and his son is simply a Prince of Cambridge and that is it?
It was announced that he will be known as HRH Prince George of Cambridge, no other title given.
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Probably Viscount Strathearn

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So... is he also the Earl of Strathearn since that is William's second title? Does it work like nobility in that regard? Or does William retain all 3 titles and his son is simply a Prince of Cambridge and that is it?
The Eldest son of an Earl is usually titled a Viscount. Like Viscount Linley (son of Princess Margaret and the Earl of Snowden). I think also that Diana's brother Charles was Viscount of Spencer before their father died and he became Earl.

However, Prince Edward is Viscount Severn (as well as Earl of Wessex), yet his son James is also Viscount Severn. I'm a bit confused as to why James isn't Viscount Wessex.

My best guess is that at some point he will probably be announced as Prince George, Viscount Strathearn - probably when he has his first official visit to Scotland.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:10 AM
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James is using Edwards 2nd title as a courtesy title as he does not have any other, and is not an HRH.

Prince George will be known as that. Think of William who never used any of Charles titles as a courtesy title. Prince George of Cambridge, plain and simple.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:17 AM
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Well, I don't like George at all. It sounds a bit old-fashioned and not proper for a little boy. I'm not from English-speaking country, though.

I'm surprised they chose the most voted name. Not to be mean, but it seems as they chose a name for future king, not for their baby if you know what I mean. I thought that they are less 'regal' more ordinary, and will choose something appropriate but not so obvious and popular. So, in my opinion they were naming a king, not their baby boy. I'm also surprised they didn't honor any member of their families. It's like the first name is as safe as possible, no innovation, no originality and other names surprising and somehow a change in tradition.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:22 AM
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Well, I don't like George at all. It sounds a bit old-fashioned and not proper for a little boy. I'm not from English-speaking country, though.

I'm surprised they chose the most voted name. Not to be mean, but it seems as they chose a name for future king, not for their baby if you know what I mean. I thought that they are less 'regal' more ordinary, and will choose something appropriate but not so obvious and popular. So, in my opinion they were naming a king, not their baby boy. I'm also surprised they didn't honor any member of their families. It's like the first name is as safe as possible, no innovation, no originality and other names surprising and somehow a change in tradition.
Harsh... and Umm they did honor peoples in their family! All three names honors someone as said before.

And I don't think they knew what was the most voted was and they went with their instinct, Let be honest they were't going to name it something like Max, Ethan, Jacob, Daniel, Aiden, etc.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:56 AM
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Harsh... and Umm they did honor peoples in their family! All three names honors someone as said before.

And I don't think they knew what was the most voted was and they went with their instinct, Let be honest they were't going to name it something like Max, Ethan, Jacob, Daniel, Aiden, etc.
The names also happen to be the names of Diana's nephews from each of her siblings. As for naming him George for a king well yeah he will be king. But there are plenty of children in the world named George. I think of it as a man's name but its not so horrible. Blu Ivy is horrible lol. There was never a chance that William and Kate would pick an original name. Never.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:09 PM
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The names also happen to be the names of Diana's nephews from each of her siblings. As for naming him George for a king well yeah he will be king. But there are plenty of children in the world named George. I think of it as a man's name but its not so horrible. Blu Ivy is horrible lol. There was never a chance that William and Kate would pick an original name. Never.
I did not realize that - that is something.

As for George, he will fit right in among the British aristocracy; loads of James, Edward, Georges at the preschool. Rose Gilman named her son "Rufus." Names like Aiden and Jayden would make him look like an odd ball among these peers.
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"Rufus" is an example, Gracie, of an "unusual" name. But it has royal precedent. In reading history of earlier years in the UK, going back centuries, I have found other Rufuses than the child of Lady Rose Gilman. The name Aiden may be unusual, but it is the name of a medieval saint of the UK who was very famous in his day, and you will find a few little boys with that name, probably with parents who knew their history. Jayden does not sound like it has any UK significance, but I could be ignorant on that score.
In other words, "Aiden" is not an odd ball name. "Rufus" may be slightly odd ball. I read that it is used for redheads. I wonder if Rufus Gilman is a redhead? Probably.
Lady Rose probably wanted a name with tradition which was unusual. In other words there is a big space between "Aiden", a UK name with great tradition, and "Rufus", which has an obscure tradition. I think. I am not the ultimate expert on history. Someone like Ish probably knows more.

St. George supposedly was a saint of the UK too, but I wonder if he is more from mythical lore than Aiden. Aiden we know was a real human being about whom much was written in his own day. No one seems sure if King Arthur was a myth or a real human. He probably was human but his story has probably been turned inside out and rightside up by centuries of retelling. One thing is pretty sure from history about Arthur; he died violently as did most of the leaders of his day. To be an early Celtic king was to be destined to die by the sword.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:52 PM
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Thank you, everyone, for the answers. :-) Boy, these titles can be confusing.
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:06 PM
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Funny how peoples are making the names connection with Seinfeld.
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:11 PM
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"Rufus" is an example, Gracie, of an "unusual" name. But it has royal precedent. In reading history of earlier years in the UK, going back centuries, I have found other Rufuses than the child of Lady Rose Gilman. The name Aiden may be unusual, but it is the name of a medieval saint of the UK who was very famous in his day, and you will find a few little boys with that name, probably with parents who knew their history. Jayden does not sound like it has any UK significance, but I could be ignorant on that score.
In other words, "Aiden" is not an odd ball name. "Rufus" may be slightly odd ball. I read that it is used for redheads. I wonder if Rufus Gilman is a redhead? Probably.
Lady Rose probably wanted a name with tradition which was unusual. In other words there is a big space between "Aiden", a UK name with great tradition, and "Rufus", which has an obscure tradition. I think. I am not the ultimate expert on history. Someone like Ish probably knows more.

St. George supposedly was a saint of the UK too, but I wonder if he is more from mythical lore than Aiden. Aiden we know was a real human being about whom much was written in his own day. No one seems sure if King Arthur was a myth or a real human. He probably was human but his story has probably been turned inside out and rightside up by centuries of retelling. One thing is pretty sure from history about Arthur; he died violently as did most of the leaders of his day. To be an early Celtic king was to be destined to die by the sword.
The royal connection to "Rufus" is King William II, known as William Rufus. He was the son of William the Conqueror and was killed whilst out hunting in the New Forest. He reigned from 1087-1100. Succeeded by his brother Henry I.
"Rufus" was because of his red-faced appearance; he was v unpopular. So it is a description of the king, not a name.

St George is the patron saint of England.
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So... is he also the Earl of Strathearn since that is William's second title? Does it work like nobility in that regard? Or does William retain all 3 titles and his son is simply a Prince of Cambridge and that is it?
British princes do not use courtesy titles. He is HRH Prince George of Cambridge until his fathers titles change or until he receives a peerage of his own.
HRH Prince Charles of Edinburgh was never Earl of Merioneth before becoming Duke of Cornwall.
HRH Prince Edward of Kent was never Earl of St Andrews before becoming Duke of Kent.
HRH Prince Richard of Gloucester was never Earl of Ulster before becoming Duke of Gloucester.
HRH Prince William of Wales was never Earl of Chester before becoming Duke of Cambridge.

FYI even in the cases of the regular peerage the title used by the elder son is just a courtesy and the father still remains the title holder. The Duke of Beauforts heir might be called Marquess of Worcester by courtesy but the duke still remains the actual Marquess of Worcester.
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Meh. Who cares what titles he has; let's focus on the important things in life. Has anyone gotten a good look at his eyes to determine the color? Will he like his mobile? When will he sleep through the night?
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:41 PM
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Welcomes to HRH Prince George of Cambridge

I think it is a good name. Seems he was named after his maternal great-great grandfather. I am sure it pleased HM Queen Elizabeth. I had predicted the name Philip George Arthur Francis myself. I know Prince Charles William to be named Arthur but Diana wanted William.
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"Rufus" is an example, Gracie, of an "unusual" name. But it has royal precedent. In reading history of earlier years in the UK, going back centuries, I have found other Rufuses than the child of Lady Rose Gilman. The name Aiden may be unusual, but it is the name of a medieval saint of the UK who was very famous in his day, and you will find a few little boys with that name, probably with parents who knew their history. Jayden does not sound like it has any UK significance, but I could be ignorant on that score.
In other words, "Aiden" is not an odd ball name. "Rufus" may be slightly odd ball. I read that it is used for redheads. I wonder if Rufus Gilman is a redhead? Probably.
Lady Rose probably wanted a name with tradition which was unusual. In other words there is a big space between "Aiden", a UK name with great tradition, and "Rufus", which has an obscure tradition. I think. I am not the ultimate expert on history. Someone like Ish probably knows more.

St. George supposedly was a saint of the UK too, but I wonder if he is more from mythical lore than Aiden. Aiden we know was a real human being about whom much was written in his own day. No one seems sure if King Arthur was a myth or a real human. He probably was human but his story has probably been turned inside out and rightside up by centuries of retelling. One thing is pretty sure from history about Arthur; he died violently as did most of the leaders of his day. To be an early Celtic king was to be destined to die by the sword.
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The royal connection to "Rufus" is King William II, known as William Rufus. He was the son of William the Conqueror and was killed whilst out hunting in the New Forest. He reigned from 1087-1100. Succeeded by his brother Henry I.
"Rufus" was because of his red-faced appearance; he was v unpopular. So it is a description of the king, not a name.

St George is the patron saint of England.
Rufus is a Latin name meaning "red-haired." In addition to William Rufus, who either got the nickname due to a red face or red hair (I've seen both claimed, and am inclined to believe it's the hair because of the name meaning), it's also the name of Saints and is even mentioned in the bible.

I doubt Rose Gilman picked the name because of William II. To me it seems more likely that it's a name her and her husband liked.

Aiden is an Irish name, and reportedly rather popular throughout Great Britain. According to behindthename.com it's the 61st most popular name in England and Wales, and the 36th most popular name in Scotland.

Saint George is a real person; scholars have said that there is no doubt that he existed, although little faith can be put into the stories about him. (Atheist scholars say similar about the existence of Jesus).

The story of George is that he slew the dragon - the dragon here is a stand in for the then pagan Roman Emperor, to which George stood up to. At a time when Christians in the army were being persecuted, George (who was a soldier and a Tribune) stood up to the Emperor, denounced him, and declared himself a Christian. He refused to renounce his faith, and was executed for it. George was an obscure saint in England for a long time, only really gaining recognition in the 14th century - likely because of the fact that he wasn't associated with England and this wasn't closely associated with anything specific. When the Reformation happened and saints were effectively tossed out the window, George was the only one kept (ironic, given as the man previously held as a patron saint had been Edward the Confessor).

The general consensus on King Arthur is that he wasn't likely a real person - and if he was, it's likely that he was actually a composition of several people. While he's believed to have lived in 4th-6th century Britain, no source mentioning him predates the 10th or 11th century. No one individual can be seen as the source for the myth. There is the idea that he may not have been a king at all, but rather simply a soldier or a leader in battle. There's also the idea that he may have been a folklore hero or forgotten deity to whom actual deeds were attributed to.
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This is not how to properly secure a newborn into a car seat. I know they generally travel with police escort but this picture scares me and I've not heard anybody mention it yet. Let's just hope it's because they wanted to get out of there quickly. Further, you are supposed to put the carry handle down once the seat is attached to the base in the vehicle. The next day when they left KP, the handle was straight up again. I'm just saying that I hope they take more care than this in their day to day lives.
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This is not how to properly secure a newborn into a car seat. I know they generally travel with police escort but this picture scares me and I've not heard anybody mention it yet. Let's just hope it's because they wanted to get out of there quickly. Further, you are supposed to put the carry handle down once the seat is attached to the base in the vehicle. The next day when they left KP, the handle was straight up again. I'm just saying that I hope they take more care than this in their day to day lives.
I think it different in The U.K then in the U.S in how newborns are buckled, It doesn't really bother me that much. every country different.
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This is not how to properly secure a newborn into a car seat. I know they generally travel with police escort but this picture scares me and I've not heard anybody mention it yet. Let's just hope it's because they wanted to get out of there quickly. Further, you are supposed to put the carry handle down once the seat is attached to the base in the vehicle. The next day when they left KP, the handle was straight up again. I'm just saying that I hope they take more care than this in their day to day lives.
They have been parents for less than a week, I think they are due some slack.

Besides, Catherine may have fixed the location of the strap once George was in the car, this is only one picture and it isn't even of him in the car.
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They have been parents for less than a week, I think they are due some slack.

Besides, Catherine may have fixed the location of the strap once George was in the car, this is only one picture and it isn't even of him in the car.
I cut them slack in all areas but the safety of their chld, that's just my viewpoint. I hope Catherine did adjust the straps. When we left the hospital with our daughter, the nurses were duty bound to check for the proper positioning of the infant in the car seat.

Wow, I just googled it and found the following article:

http://www.ivillage.com/royal-baby-a...iam/6-a-542501

I'm just glad that they get to spend time in rural Bucklebury and that the police have established a zone of protection from the street so the media can't camp out there. I wish them every happiness with their new little prince.
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