Staff of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge 1: Ending Sep 2022


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I am not sure what the big deal is - they all have housekeepers as their houses are massive. Charles, Edward etc. all have house keepers so Catherine's decision is nothing out of the ordinary.

I am not trying to join this argument but I DO want to say that yes, the Royals have a hard time as being in the public eye is never fun. Celebrities CHOOSE to be in the limelight - many Royals are born into it and wish they weren't, even with all the privilege and money that is associated. I do, however, think their lifestyle is much easier than many of us. Let's be honest - looking happy and smiling to strangers, shaking their hand and looking up information about the place you are visiting is exhausting but it's not THAT hard. I am not saying their job is easy, as no job is necessarily easy; I am just saying that their work is less tiring perhaps than doing a 12 hour night shift on labour ward or working in an office from 8-6 doing admin work.

That is just my opinion and of course non of us are Royals, nor we will ever be, so we cannot really judge properly.
 
If I had a huge home with a schedule that keeps me on the go constantly and children that require constant attention and cooking and cleaning and laundry to do, with some entertaining and socializing thrown into the mix, I think I would HAVE TO have some help with the daily routine of my lifestyle otherwise I would probably need to see a therapist and I would more than likely age incredibly and I know I would die young. The more help, the merrier I say. :)
 
Re: The new housekeeper, Antonella Fresolone.

I want to ask a question that will show my American ignorance.

The Hello article, William and Kate housekeeper: Pregnant Kate Middleton has hired her housekeeper to help with her new family - hellomagazine.com, says Antonella is Italian. Here in American, when the press says someone is Italian or Canadian or whatever it means the person remains a citizen of their country of origin. If the person become a citizen of the US, the press then will refer to them as Italian-American or a hyphenated whatever.

First - does the press follow the same general rules in Europe? Does it mean that Antonella is Italian rather than a citizen of the UK?

Second, here in the US, if a non-citizen member of the White House staff had worked there for 20 years without becoming a citizen, it would be odd. As an American (and here is my ignorance) I wonder how you can devotedly serve the Queen for 20 years and not also honor her country. That's why I ask. I know attitudes and laws are very different in Europe and that's what I want to understand.

Of course, legally a non-citizen could work at the White House forever with the appropriate Visa and permits - that's protected by law. ;)
 
I believe this citizenship argument is covered by the Citizenship of the European Union. Allows people from EU countries to move freely from country to country which includes settlement and employment.

She is a british national because she's lived in the UK for more than 6 years. I believe she would have dual nationality, which is allowed in the UK under this agreement.
 
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Thanks Lumutqueen! I knew it was less uptight than how we approach it in the US. And you have explained how and why. It makes our current immigration concerns seem overblown.
 
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Richard Palmer ‏@RoyalReporter 58m
As William and Kate's staff have virtually completed their move to KP, I'm going to start calling them Kensington Palace now instead of SJP.

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No. The couple aren't due in the apartments until autumn but the staff have more or less completed the move to new offices.
 
Meet Team Kate: From the vicar's daughter to the karaoke addict, the aides who were there for the birth | Mail Online

Meet Team Cambridge
22 July 2013
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Including the medical team, their private secretaries and their security guards,
the Cambridges have a close group of people to stand by them.

THE GIRL FRIDAY

No twin-set and pearls for Rebecca Deacon, a vicar’s daughter who has worked as the Duchess’s private secretary since her engagement was announced in 2010...Becca, as she is known to her friends, is Kate’s indispensable Girl Friday.

The 30-year-old is typical of the young team who have set up shop at Kensington Palace, where blue blood counts for remarkably little. The youngest of three sisters, she was brought up by her mother, Selina, after her father, Michael, an army major, died in 1986. Selina was later ordained as a priest and is now a vicar... Rebecca was a pupil at the exclusive Royal School in Bath before studying English at Newcastle University.

Her ‘big break’ came when she worked behind the scenes on William and Harry’s 2007 Concert For Diana as a producer’s assistant and won plaudits for her coolness under pressure. She was subsequently absorbed into William and Harry’s private office and, when William’s engagement was announced, moved to work for Kate. Last year she was officially promoted to private secretary, the most senior role in the duchess’s household.

THE RIGHT-HAND MAN

Affable but sharp as a tack, Miguel Head is William’s private secretary and is at the heart of a core band of advisers guiding the couple through the early stages of their public life together. Mig, as he is known to his friends, is believed to be the first senior royal aide to enter into a civil partnership with his long-term partner in 2011, the same year his boss wed.

Educated at Bancroft’s, a small public school in Essex, the 34-year-old is not much older than his employer but brings to the role a wealth of experience outside of royal circles. He joined the Ministry of Defence press office in his early 20s and worked his way up, serving as the liaison with Clarence House when Harry went to war in 2007. Editors agreed a media blackout to allow Lieutenant Wales to serve in Afghanistan, but he had to be pulled out when foreign media broke the embargo.

Miguel’s performance in handling such a delicate situation – not least because of Harry’s ire – hugely impressed the princes, who hired him to head their press office. In the role, Miguel, who owes his name to his Portuguese mother, managed to earn both the respect and trust of his principals. As a result he was promoted to the coveted position of private secretary to the Duke of Cambridge last year after his long-standing predecessor Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton (a more traditional ex-army and ex-courtier figure) took on an overseeing role.

THE MEDICAL TEAM

The Queen’s own Surgeon-Gynaecologist for over 20 years, Marcus Setchell, was in charge of the birth. He also delivered both of the Countess of Wessex’s children, Lady Louise, nine, and James, Viscount Severn, four. The countess collapsed and was close to death when Lady Louise was born prematurely in 2003, after the placenta ruptured the lining of the womb. Mr Setchell also led the medical care following Sophie’s ectopic pregnancy in 2001 and performed the Duchess of Cornwall’s hysterectomy in 2007.

Obstetrician Guy Thorpe-Beeston is a specialist in high-risk pregnancies and dealing with women who have had repeated miscarriages.

Dr Sunit Godambe is a consultant neonatologist at St Mary’s. He grew up in Mumbai, India.

THE MINDER

The couple’s team of Scotland Yard police bodyguards were yesterday led by one of their most experienced officers, Bill Renshaw. He was photographed organising the convoy that whisked the duchess to hospital (a far more sober experience given that the last time he was photographed was sitting with Prince Harry in a pool in Las Vegas).

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There is another member of staff helping the Cambridges - they employed an orderly last November. He is the person who delivered the notice of the birth of Baby Cambridge to BP.
Here he is delivering the notice to the palace:
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Here is the original article from the DM:
Duke and Duchess of Cambridge get their first orderly (and he'll even organise William's wardrobe) | Mail Online

"The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have employed their first orderly as they face big changes in their lives.They have seconded the young Fijian-born corporal from the Parachute Regiment.His role involves chauffeuring, logistics and even organising Prince William’s wardrobe. The Daily Mail has been asked not to name him. A royal aide said: ‘I have to say he is a lovely guy – like all Army, a superb can-do attitude and great sense of humour.’ The cost, which is not known, is being borne by the Ministry of Defence.

The couple have so far resisted pressure to have a retinue of servants, employing part-time housekeepers in Wales and London, and doing almost all their own cooking and shopping. That will change with the duchess now pregnant and her helicopter pilot husband deciding whether to quit the RAF and take on more royal duties when his tour of duty ends next year.

Sources insist the couple still have no plans to employ a valet, dresser or lady-in-waiting. One said: ‘If the duke is really stuck, then he borrows one of his father’s valets.’ "
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I was watching CNN yesterday and the royal experts were praising the great staff of the Cambridges especially their private secretaries and press officers. I loved that Miguel and Rebecca were there for two days in hospital and were just inside the Lindo Wing doors when WK took the baby outside. Ed Perkins had a big grin taking the notice outside to the car. Jamie Lowther Pinkerton can leave knowing everybody is in good hands.
 
Yeah, the staff did a great job, IMO. They had setup a temporary press office in the hospital so they could deal with matters there. It seems like the staff is less stuffy and down to earth people who the royal couple like.
 
There is a lot of chat about the fact there is no nanny but that must be a short term situation.

My view is that Catherine, who likes to understand and get a grip on information and how things work, is applying that approach to raising her child/ren. She will employ a nanny once she understands what needs to be done and how she wants it done. Then she will feel able to employ a nanny who does the job how Catherine wants it done. She isn't someone to just hand the job over to someone else.

She has to do this is order to undertake royal duties and I think the need for them to go full time is closer than I originally thought.

They do need to handle this properly because, based on current news, one would think it was always going to be no nanny.
 
I think with their lives it would be impossible to not have a nanny at some point.


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...My view is that Catherine, who likes to understand and get a grip on information and how things work, is applying that approach to raising her child/ren. She will employ a nanny once she understands what needs to be done and how she wants it done.
Cepe - you got this spot on you smart cookie! Kate needs to see for herself and only then does she like to make decisions. I had not figured that out!
 
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I think everyone knows they will need a nanny, especially when they increase their official duties. The Wessex's have a nanny and she's seen all the time when the family is together.
 
I don't think Catherine will take on full-time duties, at least not until the child(ren) are older. They will need to hire a regular nanny though. I think the nanny will be part-time but paid enough so she will be available either day or evening.

I wonder how much it will pay...
 
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I think a nanny will be needed even for Catherine's part time role, but I feel (just me) that full time is close. She needs to find someone by (say) October that she can fully rely on and trust in, hen she can do royal duties and, who knows, have #2 baby in an established family environment particularly as they should be settled into KP1A.

William, I think, will return to the Blues and Royals and be based in London.
 
I think your original post about how Catherine approaches life is dead on- she's meticulous and careful, and she seems to work hard to get a handle on details before she makes any big decisions. (See: how she handled her relationship with William, how carefully she chose her patronages)

I think that probably, she will go without a nanny until October, when her maternity leave will be waning, and when 1A is ready. Right now, they don't have a living situation that allows for someone else in their household, but when they move into 1A, they'll have the space, and a nanny will be able to be there when necessary, and retreat to her own space when she's not needed- allowing for care but also for the parents to have private time with baby George.

I actually think how quickly the Cambridges go full time depends largely on the health of Prince Philip, and my instinct is that this last setback means that he'll need to more or less retire- or at least GREATLY scale back, more than he already has.

I think that's the reason they've so carefully avoided committing publicly to saying what William's career plans are- we're months past when they said we'd know. I think it's because it's actually still contingent on Philip.

I could be wrong, but that's my opinion.
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on that question, do all of the other royal families have nannies? i know princess Estelle does.
 
I'd say that Catherine will hire a nanny when she has formed a bond with her son, and figured out how things work. I doubt she's the type to hand the baby off to a complete stranger without knowing what she wants done as a parent. Sure, there are the essentials; feeding, changing, putting to sleep, keeping clean, but then there's the routine, and having one is very important when working with children. I have no doubt that William and Catherine will want their children to grow up in a stable, and nurturing environment, and having a routine is a big part of that. Catherine and William will figure out what type of routine they want, and then will look for a nanny who will follow their philosophy. As to whether or not other royal families have nannies, I would say that more than likely they do. Royals have busy schedules, so having a person who helps with childcare is very important.
 

I never understand the articles that say there will be no nanny and the parents will do the care with the grandparents help.

There are very few working families who don't use some kind of paid childcare to help them meet work commitments. I take my son to childcare twice per week when I work but you can't expect William and Kate to drop George to the local centre for the day - if they need help then it has to be a nanny.

Most grandparents royal or otherwise have their own work commitments nowadays and don't just stop them when they become a grandparent. As much as you want the grandparents help and they want to help it is impossible for them to cover all the care that could be needed.
 
Yup- Charles and Camilla are certainly too busy and the Middletons run their own business
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I think the notion that they don't need or want a nanny is just ridiculous. I don't see anything wrong in needing one. As one of the posters to this thread has stated, most working couples need some type of child care. It's not a sign of weakness. Same goes for needing a household staff for cooking and cleaning their "big" apartment in Kensington Palace. I just wish we could all move on from this topic. It's a bit ridiculous.
 
Nannies( and boarding school, later on) are perfectly normal to William and we don't actually know Kate never had one at least part time as her parents were so busy and could afford one eventually.
 
I think the word "nanny" implies an employee dedicated to the baby. What the arrangement seems to be is an all-purpose assistant, perhaps with some skills that William and Kate find very useful, which could include some "babysitting" and childcare, but also other work (such as secretarial or personal assistant).

A lady's maid?
 
With a baby but esp. a toddler, there is no doing anything else:lol:. Unless K&W are doing some tending themselves, there will be no another work for an assistant.
 
They have the housekeeper who used to be one of the queens maid and they have the orderly from the military. They have their office staff which takes care of the correspondence, diary and press. I would think that the baby could be left with the housekeeper for a couple of hours if needed.
 
I'd say that Catherine will hire a nanny when she has formed a bond with her son, and figured out how things work. I doubt she's the type to hand the baby off to a complete stranger without knowing what she wants done as a parent. Sure, there are the essentials; feeding, changing, putting to sleep, keeping clean, but then there's the routine, and having one is very important when working with children. I have no doubt that William and Catherine will want their children to grow up in a stable, and nurturing environment, and having a routine is a big part of that. Catherine and William will figure out what type of routine they want, and then will look for a nanny who will follow their philosophy. As to whether or not other royal families have nannies, I would say that more than likely they do. Royals have busy schedules, so having a person who helps with childcare is very important.

All babies settle into the same routine eventually ... I doubt they have no help . I think a night nanny or maternity nurse is there to help and give advice otherwise parents get babies into very bad habits and worry too much about which childcare advice to follow . If they have no help they /she will be tired anyway and why shouldn't she have the full leave everyone is entitled too .
I doubt they would leave the baby with an unqualified housekeeper .
They can afford it so I am sure they will go for the best care possible .
 
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