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Of course it is stressful to go to a place full of people focused on YOU, who will remember this event their whole life, when to you it is one of a lifetime of fleeting encounters of a similar nature. The pressure to meet expectations must be immense, all the while in the presence of endless cameras & journalists from around the world.

I would have thought that was obvious to anyone with even a modicum of sensibility.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:29 PM
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Exactly. I actually consider their public engagements to be very hard work- and I know I couldn't do it.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:33 PM
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Public appearances are bloody hard work are they? Who knew.
I've had to do them. Say a few words publically, open an event and then do "small talk" - and that consists of talking about the event, the background, the raising of the money, who supported it, how long it took, etc.

IT was expected that I knew all about it. So I prepared.

I found walking into a room of people and doing small talk a scary as standing up and talking to 500 people. At least with that, I knew which slide was coming next!

You are just so scathing at times Lumutqueen. My opinion is based on experience and I say they are difficult.

PS: I didn't have to do it in front of the world's media; have every detail of my clothes, hair, make up analysed and then have the press ask everyone I spoke to how I did.

You, know I think that makes it worse.

And we are off topic - sorry.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:37 PM
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I suppose it does depend on your idea of "hard work", they aren't back breaking hard physical labour but they are probably mentally tiring.
Anyway...back to TRHs staff. I wonder if we'll notice any subtle changes when Jamie Lowther Pinkerton leaves, he's been William's go to man for so long.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:43 PM
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I have also talked to a large number of people and worked as a model for half a year to finance my studies,but nobody is interested in my private life and I do not have to be careful to represent a nation or a Royal family that is expected to be perfect,polished and super glamourous all the time.

I could not do what Catherine is doing-the CONSTANT interest and picking on me for all kind of reasons (especially the lazy-Kate stuff,the topless pictures and the mean comments on her and her family) would have been too much for me. I have enormous respect for what they do,the BRF is probably the most prestigious,well-known family in the world and nobody gets more media attention than they do.
This prospect seems to me to be pretty horrible & daunting,especially for a woman who did not grow up with the press-but the Duchess has proven to be a strong,dutiful woman with enormous energy and good spirit. She does not give up or say bad things when she gets unfair critisism or rude attacks by haters- this,most of all, is why I adore her so much!

I believe that her staff and her advisors have helped her a lot to adjust to her situation and new role,I think it is very important they hire good people,especially that they hire people they can trust 100%. Loyalty and trustworthiness are more important than any other skill in this job IMO.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:44 PM
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On topic - I'm sure the staff of the DOCAs are very happy they've got their jobs but a recent Jubilee program said something along the lines of 'working for royals is no longer a life long commitment, it's used as a stepping stone'.
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:00 PM
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It is ok to have different opinions-for some people who are naturally extroverted this public work might seem like a "light" job, and it is certainly not labour-intensive. However,the mental stress is very high! Of course,we can not compare this job to what surgeons or scientists do, each job/position has their positive and negative sides.
It is important to find something you are good at,something that suits your personality and skills.
The people who work for the Duchess and Duke must have some affinity for their job and also have sympathy for the RF,otherwise I think it is not very satisfying-I believe that the people who work in the Royal household have very hard work and have to live up to high expectations! Imagine,if the Duchess wears something completely wrong,or if the cook prepares the food badly and they end up in hospital etc.-all this is quite stressful and requires a lot of knowledge and experience!
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Imagine,if the Duchess wears something completely wrong,or if the cook prepares the food badly and they end up in hospital etc.-all this is quite stressful and requires a lot of knowledge and experience!
Any designer or any chef has (I'm hoping) the same high expectations. Not to kill someone or make them look foolish in a silly dress. The designer part I'm not 100% on because some pieces are down right nonsense

I imagine the staff of the DOCAs are doing their jobs because they like them and would be doing them whether they worked for royalty or not, working for the future king just looks good on the CV.
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:39 PM
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Plus always having to be aware of what is going on around you, not to mention standing for long periods of time and keeping good posture. I know for a fact that is tiring. I used to work in a store and even on days when we were not busy we had to stand all the time. VERY tiring.
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:52 PM
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I think it is quite obvious that any job can be tiring from time to time - but royal staff are there to ensure that events go smoothly and that the royal in question is fed, watered, clothed, prepared, informed, picked up, dropped off and debriefed. Royal staff are not there to wipe hot brows and give sympathy for tired feet because being a royal is manageable mentally physically and emotionally on a day to day basis and if done properly there will be no hot brows or tired feet!
For normal folk without a proper support network behind the scenes of-course it's a continual struggle to carry out duties and engagements and go to work and dress up and down and look great all the time.
The more staff the merrier I say!
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Old 05-07-2013, 05:05 PM
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I am not sure what the big deal is - they all have housekeepers as their houses are massive. Charles, Edward etc. all have house keepers so Catherine's decision is nothing out of the ordinary.

I am not trying to join this argument but I DO want to say that yes, the Royals have a hard time as being in the public eye is never fun. Celebrities CHOOSE to be in the limelight - many Royals are born into it and wish they weren't, even with all the privilege and money that is associated. I do, however, think their lifestyle is much easier than many of us. Let's be honest - looking happy and smiling to strangers, shaking their hand and looking up information about the place you are visiting is exhausting but it's not THAT hard. I am not saying their job is easy, as no job is necessarily easy; I am just saying that their work is less tiring perhaps than doing a 12 hour night shift on labour ward or working in an office from 8-6 doing admin work.

That is just my opinion and of course non of us are Royals, nor we will ever be, so we cannot really judge properly.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:58 PM
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If I had a huge home with a schedule that keeps me on the go constantly and children that require constant attention and cooking and cleaning and laundry to do, with some entertaining and socializing thrown into the mix, I think I would HAVE TO have some help with the daily routine of my lifestyle otherwise I would probably need to see a therapist and I would more than likely age incredibly and I know I would die young. The more help, the merrier I say. :)
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Re: The new housekeeper, Antonella Fresolone.

I want to ask a question that will show my American ignorance.

The Hello article, William and Kate housekeeper: Pregnant Kate Middleton has hired her housekeeper to help with her new family - hellomagazine.com, says Antonella is Italian. Here in American, when the press says someone is Italian or Canadian or whatever it means the person remains a citizen of their country of origin. If the person become a citizen of the US, the press then will refer to them as Italian-American or a hyphenated whatever.

First - does the press follow the same general rules in Europe? Does it mean that Antonella is Italian rather than a citizen of the UK?

Second, here in the US, if a non-citizen member of the White House staff had worked there for 20 years without becoming a citizen, it would be odd. As an American (and here is my ignorance) I wonder how you can devotedly serve the Queen for 20 years and not also honor her country. That's why I ask. I know attitudes and laws are very different in Europe and that's what I want to understand.

Of course, legally a non-citizen could work at the White House forever with the appropriate Visa and permits - that's protected by law.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:04 AM
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I believe this citizenship argument is covered by the Citizenship of the European Union. Allows people from EU countries to move freely from country to country which includes settlement and employment.

She is a british national because she's lived in the UK for more than 6 years. I believe she would have dual nationality, which is allowed in the UK under this agreement.
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Thanks Lumutqueen! I knew it was less uptight than how we approach it in the US. And you have explained how and why. It makes our current immigration concerns seem overblown.
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As William and Kate's staff have virtually completed their move to KP, I'm going to start calling them Kensington Palace now instead of SJP.

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No. The couple aren't due in the apartments until autumn but the staff have more or less completed the move to new offices.
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Meet Team Kate: From the vicar's daughter to the karaoke addict, the aides who were there for the birth | Mail Online

Meet Team Cambridge
22 July 2013
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Including the medical team, their private secretaries and their security guards,
the Cambridges have a close group of people to stand by them.

THE GIRL FRIDAY

No twin-set and pearls for Rebecca Deacon, a vicar’s daughter who has worked as the Duchess’s private secretary since her engagement was announced in 2010...Becca, as she is known to her friends, is Kate’s indispensable Girl Friday.

The 30-year-old is typical of the young team who have set up shop at Kensington Palace, where blue blood counts for remarkably little. The youngest of three sisters, she was brought up by her mother, Selina, after her father, Michael, an army major, died in 1986. Selina was later ordained as a priest and is now a vicar... Rebecca was a pupil at the exclusive Royal School in Bath before studying English at Newcastle University.

Her ‘big break’ came when she worked behind the scenes on William and Harry’s 2007 Concert For Diana as a producer’s assistant and won plaudits for her coolness under pressure. She was subsequently absorbed into William and Harry’s private office and, when William’s engagement was announced, moved to work for Kate. Last year she was officially promoted to private secretary, the most senior role in the duchess’s household.

THE RIGHT-HAND MAN

Affable but sharp as a tack, Miguel Head is William’s private secretary and is at the heart of a core band of advisers guiding the couple through the early stages of their public life together. Mig, as he is known to his friends, is believed to be the first senior royal aide to enter into a civil partnership with his long-term partner in 2011, the same year his boss wed.

Educated at Bancroft’s, a small public school in Essex, the 34-year-old is not much older than his employer but brings to the role a wealth of experience outside of royal circles. He joined the Ministry of Defence press office in his early 20s and worked his way up, serving as the liaison with Clarence House when Harry went to war in 2007. Editors agreed a media blackout to allow Lieutenant Wales to serve in Afghanistan, but he had to be pulled out when foreign media broke the embargo.

Miguel’s performance in handling such a delicate situation – not least because of Harry’s ire – hugely impressed the princes, who hired him to head their press office. In the role, Miguel, who owes his name to his Portuguese mother, managed to earn both the respect and trust of his principals. As a result he was promoted to the coveted position of private secretary to the Duke of Cambridge last year after his long-standing predecessor Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton (a more traditional ex-army and ex-courtier figure) took on an overseeing role.

THE MEDICAL TEAM

The Queen’s own Surgeon-Gynaecologist for over 20 years, Marcus Setchell, was in charge of the birth. He also delivered both of the Countess of Wessex’s children, Lady Louise, nine, and James, Viscount Severn, four. The countess collapsed and was close to death when Lady Louise was born prematurely in 2003, after the placenta ruptured the lining of the womb. Mr Setchell also led the medical care following Sophie’s ectopic pregnancy in 2001 and performed the Duchess of Cornwall’s hysterectomy in 2007.

Obstetrician Guy Thorpe-Beeston is a specialist in high-risk pregnancies and dealing with women who have had repeated miscarriages.

Dr Sunit Godambe is a consultant neonatologist at St Mary’s. He grew up in Mumbai, India.

THE MINDER

The couple’s team of Scotland Yard police bodyguards were yesterday led by one of their most experienced officers, Bill Renshaw. He was photographed organising the convoy that whisked the duchess to hospital (a far more sober experience given that the last time he was photographed was sitting with Prince Harry in a pool in Las Vegas).

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Old 07-23-2013, 10:56 AM
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There is another member of staff helping the Cambridges - they employed an orderly last November. He is the person who delivered the notice of the birth of Baby Cambridge to BP.
Here he is delivering the notice to the palace:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multim...6__434189b.jpg

Here is the original article from the DM:
Duke and Duchess of Cambridge get their first orderly (and he'll even organise William's wardrobe) | Mail Online

"The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have employed their first orderly as they face big changes in their lives.They have seconded the young Fijian-born corporal from the Parachute Regiment.His role involves chauffeuring, logistics and even organising Prince William’s wardrobe. The Daily Mail has been asked not to name him. A royal aide said: ‘I have to say he is a lovely guy – like all Army, a superb can-do attitude and great sense of humour.’ The cost, which is not known, is being borne by the Ministry of Defence.

The couple have so far resisted pressure to have a retinue of servants, employing part-time housekeepers in Wales and London, and doing almost all their own cooking and shopping. That will change with the duchess now pregnant and her helicopter pilot husband deciding whether to quit the RAF and take on more royal duties when his tour of duty ends next year.

Sources insist the couple still have no plans to employ a valet, dresser or lady-in-waiting. One said: ‘If the duke is really stuck, then he borrows one of his father’s valets.’ "
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^^ That's the same guy that has been delivering things to the hospital, isn't it?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...30_634x692.jpg


Here is an article about the woman responsible for their hair.
Royal baby: Royal hairdresser to Kate and William Amanda Cook Tucker with car seat and dress at Lindo Wing | Mail Online

She travelled with them during their Singapore tour
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He is the person who delivered the notice of the birth of Baby Cambridge to BP.
My he looked handsome and so proud to be given the task. It made me mindful of hoe it's not just the family who gained a special boy - "team Cambridge" must be busting their buttons too.
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