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Plus Sir Marcus saved Sophie and Louise's life during the delivery and thus allowing for James to come later on.
That's something for which he really deserves recognition and thanks, and people need to be reminded. Such a shame the newspaper article didn't mention it. As far as we know, George's delivery was perfectly normal and natural and would have occurred just as easily with the attendance of only a midwife. Nice that Sir Marcus was on hand to ensure it went well, but he didn't really have to do anything. On the other hand, saving Sophie and Louise required specialist skill and is something to really be proud of.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:27 PM
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He didnt get a knighthood for just delivering George. cHe has been royal gynae for years and it his entire service, including looking after Sophie that he has been rewarded
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...saving Sophie and Louise required specialist skill and is something to really be proud of.
Indeed! I had forgotten about that!
Needless to say, i'm sure a lot of people are very grateful, because had Louise and Sophie died, that would been a horrible tragedy.
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I think most OBs would be really insulted to hear you say that. They perform many things other than "catch the baby." Of course no one notices when everything goes right, but OBs are highly skilled professionals who keep moms calm, manage any anatomical variances, and make sure baby is delivered in the safest way possible (and before you or anyone say it, of course nurses and midwives are also integral to the process).
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Lovely picture. Nice that William was the one to do it.
He always looks suitably regal on these occasions- but friendly too.
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:20 PM
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I think most OBs would be really insulted to hear you say that. They perform many things other than "catch the baby." Of course no one notices when everything goes right, but OBs are highly skilled professionals who keep moms calm, manage any anatomical variances, and make sure baby is delivered in the safest way possible (and before you or anyone say it, of course nurses and midwives are also integral to the process).
Gynaecologists, most of whom are obstetricians, are not just baby-catchers and I did not say that. I am well aware that gynaecologists do many things other than attend pregnant women during the delivery of their children. I am very well aware that they also treat gynaecological cancers and pre-cancerous conditions and other conditions afflicting and associated with the female reproductive organs.
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Old 03-19-2014, 12:41 AM
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That's something for which he really deserves recognition and thanks, and people need to be reminded. Such a shame the newspaper article didn't mention it.
It was detailed in a separate piece.
Countess of Wessex breaks down as she meets midwives who saved her life
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That made me sniff as well. :)
I don't think its the whos or the wheres or what was done but it was a honor bestowed on him after many years of service to the Royal Family. I can truly believe that is is a personal honor from the Queen and not one "suggested" by her government.

I do wonder however if when Kate was in labor he did the familiar cheer "push it out, push it out.. waaaaaaaaaaaaay out" Ahhh.. I miss Bill Cosby's routines.
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I don't think its the whos or the wheres or what was done but it was a honor bestowed on him after many years of service to the Royal Family. I can truly believe that is is a personal honor from the Queen and not one "suggested" by her government.
Sir Marcus Setchell wad made KCVO. KCVO means Knights Commander of the Royal Victorian Order.
Membership in the Royal Victorian Order is conferred by the queen without ministerial advice.
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Sir Marcus Setchell wad made KCVO. KCVO means Knights Commander of the Royal Victorian Order.
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Wow, what a touching story. It's wonderful that these midwives were recognized for their crucial role in Sophie's deliveries and for saving her life as well. Jobs well done, ladies!
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Maria Teresa Turrion Borrallo named as prince George's nanny #royal trained at norland college

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Maria will be with the Cambridges on the imminent trip to NZ and Oz .. George will be with her while mum and dad do 'awaydays' @5_News

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Kensington Palace appeal for the new nanny's privacy to be respected. William and Kate delighted she's joined them.
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Media relations re candid pictures of Nanny and George could get interesting

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Recent pix of George's nanny were, acc to Ken Pal, taken in contravention of Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Regulations 1997.

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Kensington Palace says the recent photographs of P George's nanny, taken in Ken Pal Gardens, are now a matter for the Royal Parks Police.
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'She's married to the job': Kate and Wills pick a new nanny for Prince George-
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Maria Teresa Turrion Borrallo named as prince George's nanny #royal trained at norland college

Simon Vigar ‏@simonvigar5 38m
Maria will be with the Cambridges on the imminent trip to NZ and Oz .. George will be with her while mum and dad do 'awaydays' @5_News

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Kensington Palace appeal for the new nanny's privacy to be respected. William and Kate delighted she's joined them.

There's something about the name "Maria" and the word "nanny" put together in the same sentence that rings bells all over the hills here. Perhaps if Wills and Kate were to have 6 more children..... ahh.. nevermind.
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I'm keeping my eye out for George to be sporting some drapes in the near future. Maybe a little drapery doggie sweater for Lupo :)
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I think most OBs would be really insulted to hear you say that. They perform many things other than "catch the baby." Of course no one notices when everything goes right, but OBs are highly skilled professionals who keep moms calm, manage any anatomical variances, and make sure baby is delivered in the safest way possible (and before you or anyone say it, of course nurses and midwives are also integral to the process).
I think this is something that has got lost in translation between America and Australia/UK.

In the UK, the majority of births (it was 80% when I was a midwife) are supervised by a midwife and an obstetrician only becomes involved if something happens with the labour.

Midwives also do not just catch babies or simply telephone doctors, they conduct the antenatal and postnatal care and education and monitor the labour to ensure mother and baby are healthy as well as conducting the delivery.

In the UK, obstetricians do not keep mothers calm because they are not there for 90% of the labour even when the mother is a private patient. The midwife monitors the labour and calls the obstetrician when the baby is ready to be delievered. In the UK it is the midwife who, in most cases, ensures the baby is delivered in the safest way for mother and baby.

Roslyn is quite correct. Most women in Kate's position would not see an obstetrician and would receive the specialised care that a midwife is trained to give. Sophie needed the specialised care that an obstetrician is trained to provide.

It's just a cultural difference.
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Wow, what a touching story. It's wonderful that these midwives were recognized for their crucial role in Sophie's deliveries and for saving her life as well. Jobs well done, ladies!
That was such a dramatic story. Edward in Africa, Sophie's traumatic delivery and a very fragile Louise. Thankfully a well-trained team did their jobs and two lives were saved.
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I think this is something that has got lost in translation between America and Australia/UK.

In the UK, the majority of births (it was 80% when I was a midwife) are supervised by a midwife and an obstetrician only becomes involved if something happens with the labour.

Midwives also do not just catch babies or simply telephone doctors, they conduct the antenatal and postnatal care and education and monitor the labour to ensure mother and baby are healthy as well as conducting the delivery.

In the UK, obstetricians do not keep mothers calm because they are not there for 90% of the labour even when the mother is a private patient. The midwife monitors the labour and calls the obstetrician when the baby is ready to be delievered. In the UK it is the midwife who, in most cases, ensures the baby is delivered in the safest way for mother and baby.

Roslyn is quite correct. Most women in Kate's position would not see an obstetrician and would receive the specialised care that a midwife is trained to give. Sophie needed the specialised care that an obstetrician is trained to provide.

It's just a cultural difference.
For a really educational look at midwives in the UK, there's a wonderful BBC series called "Call the Midwife," based on the memoirs of a midwife working in post-WWII East End London. It shows their roles and responsibilities in all aspects of pregnancy, delivery and post-pregnancy, in which the doctor only plays a part where there is difficulty in birth. I highly recommend both the series and the book upon which it is based.
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