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Old 03-11-2013, 01:20 PM
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^I have to disagree. If you look at both William and Kate's patronages and other things they are involved with it's very clear what their passions are. Kate loves art, for one, which is obvious and there are many other things. You just have to look. William and Kate do more than Harry overall anyway. Not to knock Harry at all because both he and William have full-time jobs. I'm just saying they all have their interests and all do their best.
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:50 PM
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I do not see how opinions equate to passion, but answering the passion question, it is quite evident from Kate's patronages that she is passionate about children care and the arts. She is also into high street fashion and takes great care of her appearance. As for William, it is quite obvious he is into military and also into the conservation of endangered animals. Both are all very enthusiastic about sports, as evident from the Olympics.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:24 PM
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I, for one, am tired of the "in your face" mentality of those who feel compelled to inform the world of their opinions. By all means, you are welcome to espouse any views you wish but some of us will kindly ignore them and quite happily share our own views with only our closest family & circle of friends. That doesn't mean that one's ideas & passions are more worthy than another's simply because they are made public. In Kate's particular case, her own beliefs will bear out in the charities she chooses to support and how she raises her children and serves in her royal duties over the years. She's in this for the long haul not to gain short-term notoreity.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:31 PM
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Doesn't William have a passion for Africa?

As for Kate giving her opinion, isn't that kind of the antithesis of constitutional monarchy?
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:38 PM
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It is the antithesis of a constitutional monarchy.


Which is what critics don't get. They're attacking her for appearing to be a non-modern woman; instead of embodying feminism they say she is an example of a woman controlled by her man. They assume this because she's not vocal in public surroundings about her opinions on things, like a celebrity or a politician would be. What they fail to realize is that Royals are not celebrities. They are not politicians. They are Royals and an important part of that means maintaining an appearance of neutrality.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:40 PM
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Which, actually, means that the more they critique her in such a fashion the more evidence we have to say that she is doing exactly what he should be doing and fulfilling her role as a junior royal.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:29 AM
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Even when celebrities give their opinion we tell them to shut up and sing. I believe, correct me if in wrong, that Charles mostly gets away with his opinion because he is not the sovereign yet. The Queen is the main one who can't let her opinion be known; but most of her family follows her example.
Too many people want Kate to be too much to them. I hope she never falls into the trap of trying to please them because its a black hole that will destroy her.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:58 PM
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Silence of the Duchess: Sandi Toksvig wants Kate Middleton to speak out more, but imagine the fury it would cause if she did: We know nothing of what goes on in Kate's mind - and shouldn't expect to:
Silence of the Duchess: Sandi Toksvig wants Kate Middleton to speak out more, but imagine the fury it would cause if she did - Comment - Voices - The Independent
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:24 PM
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Sandi Who? I thought that the POINT of feminism was the right of women to have CHOICE in how they present/ interact in public. That's what we were pushing for in the 70s &80s.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:44 PM
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Diana did talk about what was important to her...... But generally after she was no longer married to the Prince of Wales.

She used her actions such as shaking hands with a HIV patient to get her beliefs across.

What the media really wants is for the Duchess to dish dirt. That is not going to happen.

I also think the media snobs are also down on Catherine because she is a regular person. Just look how they drool over Harry's GF because she has ties to the upper class.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:28 PM
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Diana did talk about what was important to her...... But generally after she was no longer married to the Prince of Wales.

She used her actions such as shaking hands with a HIV patient to get her beliefs across.
Except using your actions to show what is important to her isn't talking about what is important - it's showing. And to say that Catherine doesn't show what's important to her is to discredit Catherine's own charity works. She might not be shaking hands with HIV patients or going into mine fields, but she is doing things and through the work that she does we can see her opinions and beliefs just as easily as we could see Diana's.

That's not to say that Diana didn't actually speak her mind, she did. The difference is that she, by the time she was speaking her own mind, was very clearly on the path to not being a Royal. Diana and Charles married in 1981, and by 1985 the marriage was falling apart with both of them carrying on affairs. We can say that the marriage was clearly over by 1992, when they separated, so for the last 5 years of her life Diana wasn't really a royal. Furthermore, given her involvement in the writing of her biography by Andrew Morton, which was released prior to her separation, we can debate whether or not she considered herself to be a part of the Firm even as late as 1992.

In short, at some point between 1985 and 1992, Diana ceased to view herself as a Royal and started to be more open about her opinions on things. Catherine, however, presumably still considers herself a royal and is still maintaining that royal neutrality, while showing us her opinion on things through the various patronages that she chooses to grant, much like her husband and his extended family does.
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Heres a spin for you, take it as you will: the Royal Family, apart ftom tbe Queen, are really servants of the Crown just as civil servants/public servants are. Once upon a time, public servants were not allowed to publicly express their own opinions. Why would the RF be different?
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Heres a spin for you, take it as you will: the Royal Family, apart ftom tbe Queen, are really servants of the Crown just as civil servants/public servants are. Once upon a time, public servants were not allowed to publicly express their own opinions. Why would the RF be different?
I would argue that the Queen herself is a servant of the Crown in as much as, if not more so, the rest of her family.
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Who the hell,is this SANDY? who gives a rats rear what she THINKS,
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I would argue that the Queen herself is a servant of the Crown in as much as, if not more so, the rest of her family.
And as such, unable to comment publicly on Policies of the government of the day.
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It would be nice if instead of gifts they made donations to a charity or single mother's group etc.


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Old 03-30-2013, 05:45 PM
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Generally speaking we do not do baby showers in the Uk. If, after the child is born, people wish to give a gift then donations to a charity could be an option. But we don't do celebrating before the event.
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But we don't do celebrating before the event.
Actually, we do.
In fact every person I know under the age of 35 who's had kids in the last 5 - 6 years has had a baby shower. It's becoming more and more "the thing".
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Old 03-30-2013, 06:09 PM
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Actually, we do.
In fact every person I know under the age of 35 who's had kids in the last 5 - 6 years has had a baby shower. It's becoming more and more "the thing".
Well every woman I know under the age of 35 in the same circs has not had a baby shower. PResents when going on maternity leave from work but otherwise no. Maybe the women I know are more superstitious.
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Please note that all posts referencing a baby shower for the Cambridge baby (and parents) have been moved to http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...-34427-35.html.

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