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Old 11-29-2010, 08:23 PM
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Honestly planning a wedding is not easy whether your royalty or a commoner especially if your the type of person who like to get involved with the whole process. Trust me I'm always certain both Kate and William are very busy with this wedding. Even if they aren't the ones going out to buy the invitations and such there's still alot to do when planning a wedding especially one of such scale. I don't think the designer will always go to Kate's place just because I think there would be too much of a risk of some sort of leak. Even if they cover the dress there's still a risk which is why I'd assume that it'd be easier for Kate to go to the designer herself for fittings. I remember the Emmanuels stressed how important it was to them for the dress to not be seen prior to the wedding day and I'm sure it'll be the same case for Kate.
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:52 PM
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I agree, Bertie. As I said many comments back, a registar's office is all they need. I find it an abuse of the Church.
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:59 PM
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I agree, Bertie. As I said many comments back, a registar's office is all they need. I find it an abuse of the Church.
Seriously? So in your opinion, anyone that has had sex prior to marriage isn't allowed to be married in a Church?
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:01 PM
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Well, the "lottery" has now given the nuptials a slight air of the dog and pony show, IMHO. I have tried quite diligently to rub off the "common" of these two, but it just gets worse! I shall have to visit this site only once a week to maintain my sanity.
Good idea. You never have anything pleasant to say about these two anyway.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:10 PM
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KittyAtlanta- what do you have against William and Kate? Is because she's a commoner and you believe he should marry someone who comes from an aristocratic, blue-blooded background? Is William not allowed to marry someone he loves & cares for?

The Kings of Norway, Jordan, Sweden, Grand Duke of Luxembourg and Emperor of Japan are married to commoners. The CP's of Spain, Norway, Denmark, Japan, Netherlands and Victoria of Sweden are married to commoners. They're well received by their respective countries.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:11 PM
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Well, the "lottery" has now given the nuptials a slight air of the dog and pony show, IMHO. I have tried quite diligently to rub off the "common" of these two, but it just gets worse! I shall have to visit this site only once a week to maintain my sanity.

I agree.

The monarchy used to have standards but William and Kate are continuing the lowering of it to mere celebrity status that started in 1969 with the documentary that was done that year and which now the Queen regrets doing.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:20 PM
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I've seen some pretty angry posts on OTHER sites, one fashion site, about William marrying a "commoner." I wonder, where in the world are these people living? lmao. Do the people that make these comments live in some sort of castle, and have titles and long lines of royalty themselves? Its just odd to think that way. The days of second, third cousins marrying each other and keeping it all royal blood died a long time ago. Thankfully.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:32 PM
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I've seen some pretty angry posts on OTHER sites, one fashion site, about William marrying a "commoner." I wonder, where in the world are these people living? lmao. Do the people that make these comments live in some sort of castle, and have titles and long lines of royalty themselves? Its just odd to think that way. The days of second, third cousins marrying each other and keeping it all royal blood died a long time ago. Thankfully.

However as royals are supposed to be different as long as they keep marrying every Jane, Sue or Betty then they cease to be different so why should they have special privileges etc.

I have no problem with them marrying commoners so long as they realise that that is making them commoners as well - if they can make a person royal then the commoner is also making the royal a commoner.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:33 PM
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I've seen some pretty angry posts on OTHER sites, one fashion site, about William marrying a "commoner." I wonder, where in the world are these people living? lmao. Do the people that make these comments live in some sort of castle, and have titles and long lines of royalty themselves? Its just odd to think that way. The days of second, third cousins marrying each other and keeping it all royal blood died a long time ago. Thankfully.
I don't get it either. Why come to a forum for discussing a Royal Marriage and just post nothing but negative comments about the couple.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:36 PM
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I don't get it either. Why come to a forum for discussing a Royal Marriage and just post nothing but negative comments about the couple.

Because the forum is a place to discuss things and if a person holds negative views they have a right to express them equally with those who hold positive views.

You don't have to read them or say anything in response to that view but the person has the right to express their opinion.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:43 PM
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However as royals are supposed to be different as long as they keep marrying every Jane, Sue or Betty then they cease to be different so why should they have special privileges etc.

I have no problem with them marrying commoners so long as they realise that that is making them commoners as well - if they can make a person royal then the commoner is also making the royal a commoner.
Because they are Royal, they are not allowed to fall in love and marry someone who doesn't have Royal blood? The practice of arranging marriages within Royal Families is over, thank GOD. You have a seriously archaic way of thinking about Royalty that doesn't fit into the current century.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:45 PM
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Because the forum is a place to discuss things and if a person holds negative views they have a right to express them equally with those who hold positive views.

You don't have to read them or say anything in response to that view but the person has the right to express their opinion.
That's fine. And we all have a right to respond to others opinions that we don't agree with by expressing our frustrations with the negativity.
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So will Camilla have to curtsey to Kate? It's the tantalising question at the heart of an epic battle of royal egos | Mail Online
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:05 PM
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Oddly enough, I was picking my dad up from the airport the other day when he made some remark about Prince William making a commoner. I didn't realize he cared, because 1) we're American and 2) he gets annoyed with me for being interested in royalty.

There really aren't a lot of princess left in the world, and technically, William's mother was a commoner before marrying into the family. So was the Queen's mother, for that matter.

Edited to add: Hahaha, I see the Daily Mail continues to be an endless source of amusement! Speculating about Camilla curtseying to her stepson's wife and throwing in a Photoshopped picture to boot?
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:12 PM
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It makes me wonder if royal families even attempt to marry off their princes and princesses to each other nowadays. The practice was so common just a generation or two ago, but we've often questioned on this site whether, for example, Prince William and Princess Madeleine have even met. It's not a surprise to me that it's not that important to most of us anymore, but the royal families don't seem to care either. Times have certainly changed!
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:23 PM
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Although we are discussing this issue (order of precedence) this is actually another inane article from the Daily Mail. First of all, this "list" didn't include the Duchess of Kent and Gloucester. How can the Gloucester daughters , Lady Helen Taylor and Lady Louise Windsor (she is what 5?) rate a mention but the Duchesses of Kent and Gloucester and Princess Michael of Kent are not even on the list.

And they make it seem like if Beatrice and/or Eugenie don't curtesy to Kate...William will get upset. And they know this how? Cause William talks to them on a regular?

Which just proves my point that until this wedding is over, the articles are just going to keep coming and become more and more ridiculous. Of course, if its printed in the Mail it must be true.
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Although we are discussing this issue (order of precedence) this is actually another inane article from the Daily Mail. First of all, this "list" didn't include the Duchess of Kent and Gloucester. How can the Gloucester daughters , Lady Helen Taylor and Lady Louise Windsor (she is what 5?) rate a mention but the Duchesses of Kent and Gloucester and Princess Michael of Kent are not even on the list.

And they make it seem like if Beatrice and/or Eugenie don't curtesy to Kate...William will get upset. And they know this how? Cause William talks to them on a regular?

Which just proves my point that until this wedding is over, the articles are just going to keep coming and become more and more ridiculous. Of course, if its printed in the Mail it must be true.
That article made me wonder if it is possible that the gov will change the rules to allow firstborn daughters inherit the throne as they do in Sweden and if so, would Anne and her children move ahead of Charles.
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Why would Anne move before Charles....Charles was born in 1948 and Anne in 1950? If anything, Anne and her children would move ahead of Andrew and Edward and their kids.

No...if anything changes with the succession it will affect the children of William and Harry.
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Any such change would be of no consequence to the current line of succession. It would only effect future generations.

(posted the same time as Zonk)
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Kate will go to the church in the Glass Coach. It's closed. It was use by Sarah, Diana, Anne...even the Queen I think. That way she won't arrive wind-blown.

On the way home, I'm sure she could manage a ride in an open landeau.

I would think that she would go to the designer for fittings. The design will be more secure that way. The less you move the dress about, the better. When Diana's dress was being done, they didn't even through out the trimmings.
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