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Old 11-17-2010, 08:58 PM
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I have mixed feelings about the ring, but it is now Kate's engagement ring, and there is a real possibility that when we look at that ring we won't associate it with tragedy. These two have several things going for them that William's parents didn't have. They love each other. There is no "whatever being in love means." Kate is older and seems to have a good head on her shoulders. I wish them all the happiness in the world and have a feeling they will have a wonderful life together.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:07 PM
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I think that it's a wonderful gesture that Kate's wearing Diana's ring, especially for the reason that William gave it to her. I like to think of it as Diana's blessing on the marriage, even though I know that she has nothing to do with her ring now. I somehow doubt that William believes in "curses" anyway.
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As for arguments about the ring being cursed.... do you really think William would give his future bride something he thought was bad luck? I think it's more a message of how much he really trusts Kate, and how much he wants his mother's memory to be a part of his life.
Marriage is a very serious step to take. Andrew and Sarah were laughing and giggling during their interview. Charles was serious and Diana was coy. Edward and Sophie were fairly serious. I take it as a good sign that they weren't jumping out of their skins with elation. It's a sign of maturity.
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Wow. What a strange interview. They both didn't look very happy--especially Kate. She barely smiled or talked. It looked like they were doing a special about helping children with aids...
Yes, and she's shown by now that she won't be a media toy!
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:34 PM
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Wow. Only two days ago Kate was considered "boring" and "average" looking. Now she's suddenly "Perfect" and "Beautiful".

How quickly people change their minds....
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:34 PM
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Kate - Catherine is a Very Royal Name

Catherine is a very Royal name, there were many Queen Catherine also Czarrina Catherine of Russia (Catherine the Great) A German Born Princess who ascended the throne of Russia.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:38 PM
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He loves his mother.

It was HIS mother's ring.

He has given the ring to the woman HE loves and whom HE believes will be the mother of HIS children.

Look at it from his view.

Absolutely. Besides, once Diana died and William took possession of the ring, it became HIS ring. His ring to do with whatever he wanted. Make it a pendant for a necklace, make it a brooch, put the stones in a new setting, make it earrings.....whatever.

Catherine will be his bride and his Queen. He's giving a part of himself to her as a symbol of his love and fidelity. It's romantic, not cursed.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:44 PM
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Congratulations to the happy couple!

As far as the ring goes: It is arguably the most famous engagement ring in the world and obviously means the world to William. I just wonder if Harry would have liked to give the ring to his fiancee?

As for paying for the wedding, this is a future King of England we are talking about. The taxpayer will be on the hook for the cost one way or another..
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:46 PM
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Kate's Engagement Ring

The ring, at long last has its true meaning, originally it was given falsely , now it is given with love from the heart. Long live the ring and those who possess it. Let us make a toast and drink to the day. "Three cheers."
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:09 PM
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It looks like Charles and the Queen will be picking a large part of the tab, from their private wealth. Prince William and Kate Middleton wedding: Charles to pick up the bill | Mail Online
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:31 PM
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Well at the BRF is contributing something and not leaving it all to the taxpayers. And when they say taxpayers is just the ones in England or the entire Commonwealth?
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:33 PM
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I am sure its just England.

I think the 20 million pounds paid by the taxpayer will be recouped by money that the wedding brings in. Of course, some people won't be satisfied.

I wonder what people would say if they just had a private wedding at Windsor Castle or Buckingham Palace, and didn't do the basics and just issued a photo. What would they complain about then?

Don't get me wrong....these are rough economic times and a lot of people are struggling and doing without. So you don't want to seem foolish and you don't care and are out of touch with the average citizen. But what is the happy medium?
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Well at the BRF is contributing something and not leaving it all to the taxpayers. And when they say taxpayers is just the ones in England or the entire Commonwealth?
Just Britain.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:47 PM
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It looks like Charles and the Queen will be picking a large part of the tab, from their private wealth. Prince William and Kate Middleton wedding: Charles to pick up the bill | Mail Online
From the reporting I've been reading lately, a lot of focus is put on the security the taxpayer's will have to fund for this wedding. I think it will be well worth it for London as it does give a chance to put in force and test out some possible security tactics that they perhaps are working on for the upcoming BIG events of 2012... the Olympics and the Jubilee.

One thing about the ring that has been going through my mind since I saw it flash on Kate's finger is how William said he'd been carrying it around with him for three weeks prior to proposing. I can imagine the happy memories he'd have each time he looked at that ring and to me in a way, giving Kate this ring, is giving her a part of himself that he wishes to share with her for a lifetime. To me its fitting.

I'd LOVE to see a March wedding date!
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:51 PM
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If Prince Charles and the Queen are paying for the wedding, it seems reasonable to me that the taxpayers should pick up the expense for security, since the numbers of citizens and tourists that will be on the streets flanking the prosession route will be where security is provided most.

Prince William getting married IS significant news in the world, and this wedding WILL be watched by millions. If I could afford to travel to London to witness it, I would in a heartbeat. This is one event I am very looking forward to.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:56 PM
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If Prince Charles and the Queen are paying for the wedding, it seems reasonable to me that the taxpayers should pick up the expense for security, since the numbers of citizens and tourists that will be on the streets flanking the prosession route will be where security is provided most.

Prince William getting married IS significant news in the world, and this wedding WILL be watched by millions. If I could afford to travel to London to witness it, I would in a heartbeat. This is one event I am very looking forward to.

I was just talking to my sister about traveling to London for this. I can't decide if I want to catch the news and pics on TRF or stand in a crowd and feel the vibe. I was planning on coming for the London Olympics but

So the London taxpayer pays for the security...and now I need to get airfare, pay for a hotel and meals and incidentals. Of which, those who work in the hotels and restuarants will be able to work and potentially pick up extra hours and spend the money in their community.

I live in the DC area and people always complain about the cost of the inaguration (both sides complain about each other) but we in the DC area love it! It definitely improves our tourist numbers in terms of the revenue that it brings every four years.
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The length of the parade route and thus the security costs would be determined by the venue. For instance a venue close to BP would mean a short route and thus far less security then say one at Westminster or St Paul's.

The Chapel Royal at St James or the Guards Chapel would both reduce costs to the taxpayers as they are smaller and fewer overseas dignataries would be invited.

I have plans to go to London in 2012 and so won't be able to even considering going twice. My family have been committed to the Olympics since 2005 so that is where our money will be going and thus no money for royal related stuff for either of these events as they are too close to the Olympics.
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I see your point, however I really hope they don't go with St. James. The route from St. James to BP would be a short procession and disappointing to everyone that gathers to watch it live, and those watching on TV. If they don't spread out the route, everyone will be bottle necked in a limited area, which wouldn't help security measures.

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...One thing about the ring that has been going through my mind since I saw it flash on Kate's finger is how William said he'd been carrying it around with him for three weeks prior to proposing. I can imagine the happy memories he'd have each time he looked at that ring and to me in a way, giving Kate this ring, is giving her a part of himself that he wishes to share with her for a lifetime. To me its fitting.
I agree. The ring is symbolic to him and obviously very special....as IS. I truly don't understand why some feel he should not have given it to his future wife as **gasp!** an engagement ring! How dare he! They would rather see it dismantled and cut up than see it on Kate's finger in tact. One has to wonder what will be expected from Diana's other jewelry that William and Harry inherited. I doubt they will want any piece to be redesigned or cut up, and the moment Kate steps out in something that belonged to Diana, I am sure she will be ridiculed for it. Seriously sad.

I also hope for a March wedding!
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:59 PM
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This is going to be a big deal in the US I think, more so than other recent royal weddings, even more recent royal weddings in the UK. Diana and her sons were always big news here in the States and now that one of them is getting married, it's going to be talked about. I don't know about a station airing the wedding, although it might very well happen -- I remember watching Edward and Sophie's wedding back in 1999.
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I wonder if Kate is going to have any appearances with the BRF as the royal fiancee? Kind of like how Letizia was at Fred and Mary's wedding.
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I wonder if Kate is going to have any appearances with the BRF as the royal fiancee? Kind of like how Letizia was at Fred and Mary's wedding.

I think the next big BRF event we'd see her at is Christmas at Sandringham, now that they're engaged. Prior to the wedding, which has been rumored to be happening anywhere from March to June, what other big events that the family goes to are on the calendar? If they get married after the Trooping of the Color, we'll definitely see her there. Same goes with the Royal Ascot.
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I expect that she will have a lot of official outings with BRF. I think it's part of protocol. I can't remember how it was when Diana was engaged.
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