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Old 12-28-2010, 11:18 AM
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...Namely time to settle down and just be a wife.
But things were different back when the Queen was first married- the monarchy had some control over the press and could rein them in if necessary.
Now it's another matter; it is no longer possible for anyone to control the press. Plus now there is the Internet, to disburse pictures and articles all over the world in seconds.
I predict we'll see all sorts of photos in the next years, far more intrusive that merely taking out the garbage, etc.
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Old 12-28-2010, 02:06 PM
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Prince William & Kate Middleton Planning To Live Without Servants: Report
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Old 12-28-2010, 06:09 PM
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I see nothing wrong with that -- they're both able-bodied, capable adults, I think they can do their own laundry and cook their own food. Right now they aren't taking on any major royal duties AND William is still finishing up his stint with the RAF, so what would be the point of having a house full of domestic help?
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Old 12-28-2010, 06:54 PM
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I see nothing wrong with that -- they're both able-bodied, capable adults, I think they can do their own laundry and cook their own food. Right now they aren't taking on any major royal duties AND William is still finishing up his stint with the RAF, so what would be the point of having a house full of domestic help?
Agree, and the added bonus is that they will have true privacy. There will be no domestic staff taking notes for their 'tell-all' book to be published in 5 years.

What will be interesting is to see how they will segue into more formal duties and living. Maybe they won't for a while, but they certainly have role models with the Princess Royal and the Earl of Wessex, in how to live 'normally', under the radar of the media.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:06 PM
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I don't think they won't have any servants all,they used to it.It's better to say that they want servants to come some times in a week,to do some things about the house,but not to live near them in order not to interfere anybody in their private life.
I think William remembers very well how some servants(like Paul Burrell) sold all the secrets and privacy around royal family and his mother.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:32 PM
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The Princess Royal and the Earl of Wessex have never been the future monarch and thus going under the radar wasn't hard. William and Kate will never be able to live normally due to their position. If they think they can they are really fully themselves. Normal people don't have an army of protection officers living with them - and they do live with them.

They may not have staff to do the washing and cleaning and cooking but they will hardly be living alone (and the protection officers also have to be fed and have their quarters clearned and my understanding is that that is part of the package -that that is provided for them so that they can do their job - protecting the royal - so who will do their washing, cleaning and cooking??)
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:46 PM
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Hmmm, good points. Maybe they will just continue the way they already have it arranged - ya think?

But then it occurred to me that maybe this reference to 'servants' has to do with butlers and valets and personal maids - might that be it? They may not mean they won't have a cook or a housekeeper coming in to clean every day or week, just that they won't have personal servants. Also wondering, might William and Catherine basically be using Charles' houses, like Clarence House and Highgrove, instead of having their own outside of Wales?

But then, what about their engagements calendar and all the logistics? Maybe Charles' secretaries and staff will be the ones overseeing William's and Catherine's formal role duties? In fact, does that make more sense? William will then not need his own staff and stuff until his father ascends the throne.

Nice conversation I just had with myself.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:55 PM
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some people here need a hug! jezz....

anyways, I don't know if a believe in this. But after Burrell, I can't blame William.
btw, Doesn't William and Harry have their own Clarence House' staff? correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:57 PM
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William already has his own staff looking after his engagements. He shares that staff with Harry and they will now look after Kate as well.

I don't think that they will live permanently in Clarence House or Highgrove until Charles is King. Whatever is their London residence will be theirs until William becomes King but I suspect that William will move into Highgrove when Charles becomes King (making that home the country residence of the Duke of Cornwall).
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Old 12-28-2010, 08:10 PM
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But things were different back when the Queen was first married- the monarchy had some control over the press and could rein them in if necessary.
Very good point you made. The public also had a very different attitude towards the monarchy when the Queen was young. As the times changed and marriages broke-up, the public began to place different expectations on the family. So I too think that while the Queen was allowed to live that life I don't think it would be possible today.
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Old 12-28-2010, 09:27 PM
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Very good point you made. The public also had a very different attitude towards the monarchy when the Queen was young. As the times changed and marriages broke-up, the public began to place different expectations on the family. So I too think that while the Queen was allowed to live that life I don't think it would be possible today.

I don't know if it was so much the marriages breaking up but rather that they let the people into the marriages and so the public felt that had a right to know everything about their lives. It started with the 1969 documentary but really took off with the interviews and documentaries in the early 80s that Diana and Charles did.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:44 PM
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Pathetic yes, disgusting no, IMO. What else are they supposed to compare, breast size?
The issue has sparked debate on this forum, and it was mentioned even before the article was published.
Sorry when I say disgusting I mean pathetic. We say that sometimes over here. I should be more direct with my words.

You know what, I wouldn't be surprised if they compare breasts soon...they've already stooped low enough IMO.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:59 PM
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No no no I don't agree with that...Generally speaking, I think as royals they should have round the clock servants. I mean come on I don't want to see them washing the windows, mowing the lawn, taking out the trash too much. Part of being a royal is being mysterious and part of being a royal is being able to be on the peoples level but if they do too much "menial labor" they'll become like the rest of us! What's the point in being a royal if they can't have a snack made at 3am or the trash taken out. I wouldn't want to hear that William ironed his own clothes for a royal event. On the other hand I think they should do a bit of work like keeping their area tidy but I think that's as far as they should go considering that they'll have no time to do anything like that soon IMO.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:07 AM
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I think by choosing to live without some help for awhile will do Kate and William a lot of good from a PR point of view. The BRF is playing the game of "catch-up" with the modern world and William & Kate are major players of the game as they are the future King and Queen.

And even if they are without servants for awhile I highly doubt that Kate will be washing windows, mowing the lawns, taking out the trash or ironing their clothes before a royal event. It's a temporary setting anyway until William is done with his training. And I'm sure living without any help always hovering around constantly will be a time that they will cherish. Once William is done with his training it's off to London with their own staff and servants that will be with 24/7.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:53 AM
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This really doesn't surprise me one bit. These two seem to be the antithesis of what the jet-set celebrity crowd is like with limos and bling and all the other trappings of the ultra rich. Look where they got engaged. Although I'm sure they were well looked after, the place was actually quite minimalistic and rustic. I can well imagine them at the end of the day when William returns from his SAR shift, sitting down to meal Kate has cooked and then the both of them happily washing the dishes together. I don't seem them doing the maintenance on the house or heavy duty things but there isn't really any need for any live in servants. I'm sure there'll be times they have to return to London or elsewhere for various events and duties and will be treated more royally at CH or wherever they stay.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:39 AM
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If they want to live like the rest of us - great. They can do that permanently - by simply asking Parliament to remove William from the line of succession, giving his inheritance from Diana to charity and living on his pay from the Air Force but...if they are supposed to be royal then they also have a certain way of living expected of them and they simply don't want to embrace that side of their lives.

This seems to be a case of having their cake and eating it at the same time - being royal but not living as royals or embracing their royal heritage.


Royals are celebrities so they are expected to live the celebrity lifestyle and if they don't want to live that way then walk away from it. Royals ceased to be anything but celebrities when they started telling the press about their lives and they can't go back to the way it was before they were just celebrities but celebrities with no merit and only birth to recommend them.

I know most people here think it is a good idea for William and Kate to try to live a normal life - but they are not normal.

Cooking a meal for the man doesn't make one normal - Prince Philip cooks the BBQ at Balmoral, Diana and Charles used to cook meals.

Being normal means living without protection to help if something goes wrong, having neighbours a couple of metres from the front door, having door-to-door salesmen knock on the door etc. They want to pretend at being normal but they haven't the foggiest idea what that means.

This is more evidence, to me, that William simply doesn't want to be royal.
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I thought it would be so exciting him getting engaged at last. But when it happened I was totally surprised by my reaction.

I watched the news, saw a few programmes and then taped over the tapes for something else. I never got the next day's newspapers and gave Hello to my neighbour after I read it. I thought I would be over the moon. But after a few days I could not have cared less.

I have no idea why this is? I don't know them personally, I liked Kate sometimes disliked her. But yes it's his choice. But for some reason the years of waiting have taken there toll. Both heading for their 30's, kids in the next 2 years or so, what is there to get excited about.

I would have preferred a 20's something couple, getting married, going on world tours wearing fabulous clothes and jewellery with an HRH behind their name. But no, instead we have a boring couple who will no doubt retire to Wales and appear every so often, it is impossible to glamorise this couple. Yes I am sure I will watch the wedding to see the dress but after a few hours I expect I shall head off to the park. And no I will not bother to buy the next days newspapers. I do read the posts sometimes, but find I have little to say on this matter any more. It comes as something when you prefer the Waxwork dummy at Madam Tussauds to the real thing. But as they say ... the past is another country and we are all strangers there!

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This comes across to me as if you want the glitz of the Charles and Diana days back.
It is all much more low-key now, perhaps you miss a feeling of grandeur?
Just my opinion/thoughts of course.
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If they want to live like the rest of us - great. They can do that permanently - by simply asking Parliament to remove William from the line of succession...
I took the article to mean that they prefer not to have "live in" servants because they cherish their privacy. That doesn't mean that they will not have help that lives elsewhere but comes in daily to do cleaning, laundry and run errands, etc.. I see nothing wrong with this choice since they are living in a farm house and not a huge estate or palace. The fact that William and Kate enjoy looking after themselves to a certain extent is admirable and economical. They are required to have protection officers, and it's necessary considering who they are. That doesn't mean that they are also required to have round the clock staff.

What I don't understand is that those who dislike the monarchy and complain about the costs would have a problem with William and Kate making this choice? The same people would be outraged if William and Kate demanded an entire staff to look after their every need. The fact that William isn't spoiled, self-centered and an ego maniac that demands round the clock attention from paid staff is admirable and the kind of modern monarchy that the people should want and respect.
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What I don't understand is that those who dislike the monarchy and complain about the costs would have a problem with William and Kate making this choice? The same people would be outraged if William and Kate demanded an entire staff to look after their every need. The fact that William isn't spoiled, self-centered and an ego maniac that demands round the clock attention from paid staff is admirable and the kind of modern monarchy that the people should want and respect.
I agree, though William has been accused of "wanting it all" or his way, it seems to me that is very much the case among any number of people. If the couple were to go the route of all the trappings I am sure they would be accused of outrageous spending and frivolous life style during his time in the RAF. That rather sounds like a no win situation for the couple. Having no servants, IMO, means no live in servants.
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