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Old 07-13-2015, 02:41 PM
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When did the title Prince of Wales come with a role? It is just a title. It doesn't come with defined responsibilities. As Prince of Wales can spent your time enjoying show girls, drinking and going to house parties like Edward VII did or you can start up a charity with your Navy pension like Charles did. It entirely up to the individual.


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I was just thinking this very thing. Being the Prince of Wales doesn't come with a job description or any set list of duties. Each person in that role defines it for themselves. People seem to think he needs to be getting ready for it in some way, but any preparation he may need for it, he's already had (education, experience carrying out royal duties, etc.)

The main thing that will change for William when he becomes heir is that he'll be a full-time royal. I have no doubt he'll be perfectly able to cope with that, and I also have no doubt that people will find plenty to gripe about when he doesn't fulfill the role according to the perceptions people have in their heads (because, again, it's actually an undefined role).

I think that, in holding the various jobs and positions that he has (in the military, or now with the air ambulance), William has shown that he's adaptable, he's responsible and he's public-service oriented. I think that, considering his position in life, it's admirable that he's taken on such jobs, because he's making himself quite useful (I mean, considering that being Prince of Wales has no job description, being the future Prince of Wales is even less well-defined, and he could easily fill his time doing a whole lot of nothing).

William knows he's royal, and he knows he'll one day be king. To me, it's nice to see that he has a good work ethic and wants to make himself useful. The fact that he seems to like having something to do bodes well for his future, I think. I suspect that, whatever role he's in, he'll be trying to make sure that he spends his time doing something worthwhile.
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:11 PM
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for some reason - I expect #3 to be very soon. and I do think they will end with a large family 4 - (maybe even 5!) . I think growing their family will be part of their 'Anmer Years'. jmo
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:32 PM
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Early one morning at Anmer..

DoC: William, wake up!

DoC: Hmmph...

DoC: William, I've just been reading The Royal Forums, and they say you're going to be King someday!

DoC: WHAT!?? Why didn't someone tell me sooner?
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:33 PM
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I can quite see how people will interpret William's career choices as floundering or avoiding the inevitable or being reluctant as an her to the throne. William admits himself that he juggles the two sides to his life (in the interview he refers to his royal duties as "the other part/side of my life" or something along those lines) and of-course we are used to royals being royal 24/7, so to speak.
But the way I see it is that William has taken an opportunity which seems very rare for royalty in his position and grabbed a chance at a job doing something he enjoys, is good at and will be of benefit to people "while he waits for the inevitable".

Of-course, a way could have been found for him to be a full-time royal had it been practical, necessary or he had insisted on it, but the country is no worse the wear for him doing this job for as long as he is able to.
Thank you for sharing your viewpoint as a citizen of the UK. I'm glad to see that the PoW has championed several causes through the Prince's Trust. Now his sons are taking on the opportunities to do volunteer work or a paid position that is in service to the nation now that their military service has ended.

I doubt that anyone would truly be in favor of a return to the past where the heir and his heirs were less involved in charity work and royal duties.
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:42 PM
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Although it most likely will happen, we have to remember too that its not a written in stone thing that William will be created The Prince of Wales. That will be solely in Charles' hands once he ascends the throne. William will however definitely become The Duke of Cornwall and Cambridge.
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:11 PM
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I think Kate should be given the leeway to define her role just like Camilla is given the time. Camilla likes taking a back-seat role to Charles and being his support. As it stands we are told Camilla doesn't even 'want' to be Queen.

Lets give Kate the same options.

My goodness are William and Kate that popular that people want to see then leading the British Monarchy in 2015?
I agree with you. I also get the vibe that Catherine doesn't want to be in the spotlight, and like Camilla, is perfectly content to be the supportive spouse, that has her own patronages she's passionate about, and devoted to. There's nothing wrong with that, and if the higher-ups are not complaining, then there's no reason to complain (I understand that there are always people that will complain no matter what this couple chooses to do).

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DoC: William, wake up!



DoC: Hmmph...



DoC: William, I've just been reading The Royal Forums, and they say you're going to be King someday!



DoC: WHAT!?? Why didn't someone tell me sooner?
And I just got the mental image of this happening, with William's eyes bugging out of his head, like in cartoons .



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Old 07-13-2015, 06:19 PM
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I think Kate should be given the leeway to define her role just like Camilla is given the time. Camilla likes taking a back-seat role to Charles and being his support. As it stands we are told Camilla doesn't even 'want' to be Queen.

Lets give Kate the same options.

My goodness are William and Kate that popular that people want to see then leading the British Monarchy in 2015?
Catherine is being given the time to carve out her role. I'm just saying that it would be great to see her role a bit more clarified and given a bit more personality.
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:31 PM
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Catherine is being given the time to carve out her role. I'm just saying that it would be great to see her role a bit more clarified and given a bit more personality.
I think she's got a very healthy profile now in the public eye. Whatever she does and wherever she goes and whatever she wears makes instant headlines not only in the UK and the Commonwealth but around the world. I think its best that right now her focus is on her family and her own personal interests and charities. If she was to be given more of a prominent "official royal" role right now, I think it could be construed that she's a more prominent royal figure than her husband who works air ambulance.

I think both Camilla and Kate are very comfortable in their consort roles and prefer it that way. They love their men and are there to support and care for them and not out for their own personal limelight.
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:06 PM
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Catherine is doing exactly what she's supposed to be doing.

Everyone might as well learn to deal with it the way it is, in a year or so they will probably be expecting again and if she is still the DoC, as opposed to being the PoW, she will spend some time away from public duties. Even if she is the PoW she will have a more diminished role while pregnant and after having a baby.


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Old 07-13-2015, 09:24 PM
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I think William is well-aware that he must soon abandon private life in order to fulfill royal obligations. I don't sense any reluctance, he knows what is looming over him.

It's just that, for now, he wants to enjoy some family life.
I do believe they will have one more child; Kate is one of three, and that's what I think they are aiming for, in about two years.
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:44 PM
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One thought that hit me is that with some people getting a sense of reluctance from William during interviews about his life and his roles is that its very well possible the tone of reluctance could stem from taking his time and being careful on how he words things. Anyone in the public limelight can tell you how the press can jump on and misinterpret things.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:09 PM
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I've counted two people on this subject saying William is reluctant. It must be an odd world where someone gets guff for flying an air ambulance.

The thing is Harry gives the exact same answers in interviews about wanting a life outside of royalty and needing a job to stay grounded. People can't have it one way with Harry and another way with William.

They will both be 'full-time' royals soon enough. Unless they both avoid their 'destiny' and give up their titles. Not going to happen.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:57 PM
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Duke of Cambridge: What Now for William? Future Duties, Roles, Responsibilities

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Catherine is doing exactly what she's supposed to be doing.



Everyone might as well learn to deal with it the way it is, in a year or so they will probably be expecting again and if she is still the DoC, as opposed to being the PoW, she will spend some time away from public duties. Even if she is the PoW she will have a more diminished role while pregnant and after having a baby.





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Exactly! I'm beginning to wish people would find something else to gripe about, because this constant harping on the Cambridges about the same thing is getting old.


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Old 07-13-2015, 11:09 PM
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Exactly! I'm beginning to wish people would find so,thing else to gripe about, because this constant harping on the Cambridges about the same thing is getting old.


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ITA! If the Queen and the PoW didn't agree with how the Cambridges are going about things they'd not be letting them do it!


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Old 07-13-2015, 11:18 PM
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ITA! If the Queen and the PoW didn't agree with how the Cambridges are going about things they'd not be letting them do it!


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And they would allocate more money on the budget for them to do more royal duties
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:23 PM
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Right miche....and everyone should realize by now that within the next 5 to 10 years the Queen is probably not going to still be with us. He's going to be a full time working royal at that point. For now he's filling in where they need or want him.


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Old 07-14-2015, 08:26 AM
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It was quite clear to everyone that when William decided to leave the RAF he had no idea what he wanted to do except that he didn't want to hang around until the official phasing out of SAR to private firms. Since he had personally lobbied for the RAF to retain these services and been rebuffed, it could be seen as resigning in a pet as the handover was not due until the end of 2015.

Preparing to be King: Prince William says goodbye to RAF after more than seven years | UK | News | Daily Express

However, virtually none of those "intentions" listed in the article and dozens of others at that time, actually took place. He announced he was joining EAAA in July/Aug 2014.

However, having left the RAF over 18 months ago he has either completed the longest aircraft conversion course in history and is now a paid member of EAAA run by Bond Air Services a private firm or, he is right on target of 5 months training starting in February and gaining flight status in Jun/July, factoring in a small paternity leave.

Seems to me he just jumped the queue on many other RAF Pilots in the same situation but whose income did not allow for a gap year and will have to leave the RAF and basically compete for the jobs they had with the new owners or, retrain within the RAF.

Prince William to become a pilot for East Anglian Air Ambulance | Third Sector

According to that article, his training should have taken 5 months. And since there were articles about him starting his training in Feb of 2015 . . . It's July and it's 5 months later he's right on target.

As to those sneers about him being "only a pilot", while SAR flying is, I believe, one of the most dangerous and challenging types of flying, high seas, mountains, incredible wind sheer and updrafts all need to be compensated for, the bottom line is he is still a pilot. He is not a doctor, a nurse, a paramedic or whatever, that is not what he is there to do.

He is there to get the medical team where they need to be and back as quickly and as safely as possible, so in that respect he is just the pilot.

But what about the missing year and all those wonderful ideas . . . . nada.
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:52 AM
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Duke of Cambridge: What Now for William? Future Duties, Roles, Responsibilities

Other than a foreign service job which was more speculative than fact, he did do what it said he would do in the transition year.

Most of William's engagement numbers in 2013 where after he left the RAF. In early 2014, there was the Cambridge land management course for future role of DoCornwall, tour of Aus & NZ, London wildlife conference and bringing together other organizations to for United for Wildlife. All of that was before the EAAA announcement.



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Old 07-14-2015, 09:51 AM
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PRINCE William is being groomed to take over the running of the vast Duchy of Cornwall estate.

Prince Charles' eldest son will assume the title Duke of Cornwall when his father acceeds to the throne.

And the Secretary of the Duchy, Alistair Martin, told the Western Morning News that William, 33, now attends the twice yearly Duchy Council and is regularly updated on projects affecting the 135,000 acre estate, the vast majority in the South West.

"I meet with him on a regular basis and brief him and respond to questions from him and seek his views," Mr Martin said. He pointed out many of the projects undertaken by the Duchy will take years to come to fruition and will inevitably fall to Prince William to see through. If he takes the same close interest as Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall in the estate, it means the Westcountry will be hosting many more royal visits.
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This is very nice to hear :) And just as I was expecting it was done. :)
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