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Old 10-16-2014, 02:27 PM
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I think it should be applauded that William work in a public service job. Air Ambulance is a serious and very important job. I think just as long as he work this job for the next two years and have a very balanced approach to his royal duties, everything will be fine. He struggled with the balance when he was in the military and he himself admitted to it. His upcoming job is very important but he also have to be just as passionate about his royal duties. That's a big balancing act. I think the Air Ambulance will be his last outside of royal duties job though.
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:27 PM
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^^^ Well to satisfy the royal duties crowd he could just become Patron of East Anglia Air Ambulance (it is a registered charity). Then every time his goes to work he is performing a "royal duty"

Harry's engagements are documented in the CC just like William's and Kate's. Since 29 April 2011 Harry's totals put him behind his brother and sister in law.
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:36 PM
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What is the word in Britain?

Is there a genuine debate going on among the public that W&K are doing too little work?
Or is it just something debated mainly by royal observers, pro and con?
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:43 PM
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No genuine debate. Some tabloids are put out they don't have Catherine on they're cover every second day but thats it. If William isn't a "full-time" royal this means Catherine isn't full-time and this is what irks them. Kate can sell magazines and tabloids

The royal reporter for the Express actually pulled out of the Malta tour when it was announced Catherine couldn't make it.

The BRF don't need W&K working full-time but the tabloids want it because they sell.
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:56 PM
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Rudolph has nailed it!
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Old 10-16-2014, 04:05 PM
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So, it's not something people discuss in the pubs or on the bus?

Then it's a non-issue in the eyes of the general public?

Don't misunderstand, I ask out of curiosity and a wish to get the real picture.
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Old 10-16-2014, 04:55 PM
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I think that it's mostly royal watchers such as TRF and other sites that want to see Catherine 24/7 and if they don't they complain for they are living their lives through these royals. Some people just can't see or think outside their own little world, sorry for the scarsums but it irks me that even if Catherine was working full time , they still would not be pleased. And no Harry does not do all the work as was earlier stated.........grrrrr. I think for the moral and sanity of those boys that it's great that they focus on what is important to them in their personal lives and doing what they are doing will make for a much happier and more full filled men when they do become just full time royals working for the people, the firm and all those that are dying with batted breath to see them. Whenever they work and do something it is great to see them and hope they take the time to enjoy their lives and those babies for they are the most important of all.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:45 PM
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^^^ Well to satisfy the royal duties crowd he could just become Patron of East Anglia Air Ambulance (it is a registered charity). Then every time his goes to work he is performing a "royal duty"
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Brilliant!
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:00 PM
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No genuine debate. Some tabloids are put out they don't have Catherine on they're cover every second day but thats it. If William isn't a "full-time" royal this means Catherine isn't full-time and this is what irks them. Kate can sell magazines and tabloids.

The royal reporter for the Express actually pulled out of the Malta tour when it was announced Catherine couldn't make it.

The BRF don't need W&K working full-time but the tabloids want it because they sell.
Very astute imo.

I have no particular interest in seeing William and Kate out-and-about, but I do see the point some make regarding the paucity of their public events. Still, friends in England mirror what Rudolph is saying: it doesn't seem to be an issue.

I do think the presence of three significant royal couples is a surfeit of a good thing. I have a hunch that they all are trying to keep out of the way of each other. Until Charles is monarch, I don't think we will see much of William. I agree that they've made that choice. I don't know that they have, of course, but it seems they have, and it seems a good scenario.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:33 PM
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I do think that the BRF knows that W and K are the 'money makers' that John Public wants to see (no need for a response about Chares and Camilla being next in line to inherit). While it is not a popularity contest, the firm must realize that having their most popular royals at whichever event is going to draw huge popularity to the firm in general.
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Old 10-17-2014, 03:52 PM
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The Duke of Cambridge: What Now for William? Future Duties, Roles & Responsib...

The popular royal will vary in time but the monarchy takes a more long term view of things. Early in her reign the Queen was extremely popular, Margaret in the sixties, Diana is the eighties, now it's William and Kate. In 20 yrs it will be George. It goes in cycles.


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Old 10-18-2014, 11:57 AM
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I am still baffled at the purpose of William's transitional year. I think if he had simply switched jobs with a short break there would have been no controversy, but it could be seen as looking like he has had either another gap year or a whole year of paternity leave which no one else gets.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:03 PM
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IMVHO-The senior royals were also concerned about the health of 3 members: DoE, DoK and Princess Alexandra during 2013. Should something had happened to them to remove them from the full time list, I do believe that William and Catherine would have been requested by HM/PoW to move onto the full time list. By Sept. of 2013, the DoE was still recovering from his medical concerns in the summer of 2013 and the Queen and PoW might have been asking William to be "flexible" just in case.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:14 PM
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IMVHO-The senior royals were also concerned about the health of 3 members: DoE, DoK and Princess Alexandra during 2013. Should something had happened to them to remove them from the full time list, I do believe that William and Catherine would have been requested by HM/PoW to move onto the full time list. By Sept. of 2013, the DoE was still recovering from his medical concerns in the summer of 2013 and the Queen and PoW might have been asking William to be "flexible" just in case.
I just don't understand the idea of someone becoming ill for the Cambridge's to move into full-time royal duties. It shouldn't take that to get them to do so, IMO. The decision should be based on The Queen & Duke of Edinburgh's age, timing for them to step up and that they have the full staff to support them in their roles.

I'm thinking William's Air Ambulance job will have to be flexible for him and Catherine to fulfill their royal duties.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:22 PM
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The age of The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh is irrelevant. If W&K announce tomorrow they are now "full-time" royals it has zero impact on the Queen unless she is prepared to relinquish her charities and those charities agree to take on the Cambridges.
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Old 10-18-2014, 01:31 PM
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It insulting to the Queen and the DoE to tell them that they are too old to do their job as if they can't decide what they can and cannot do.
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^^^ My thoughts exactly miche and when the Queen and DoE do start to slow down their duties will be picked up by Charles and Camilla not W&K.
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Old 10-18-2014, 02:38 PM
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It insulting to the Queen and the DoE to tell them that they are too old to do their job as if they can't decide what they can and cannot do.
I'm not sure anyone has said that they are too old to carry out their jobs.
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Old 10-18-2014, 02:55 PM
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I think that possibly HM doesn't want a possible repeat of the 80s. The monarchy was extremely popular in those years due to Diana and, to a lesser extent, Sarah. However, when that popularity ended, it was a terrible crisis for the whole House of Windsor. Popularity now isn't necessarily what's best for the long run.


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I do think that the BRF knows that W and K are the 'money makers' that John Public wants to see (no need for a response about Chares and Camilla being next in line to inherit). While it is not a popularity contest, the firm must realize that having their most popular royals at whichever event is going to draw huge popularity to the firm in general.
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Old 10-18-2014, 03:07 PM
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Its occurred to me too that perhaps with W&K&H being part time royals and also having their own private lives, with the popularity that they do enjoy, they can be somewhat seen as "trailers" as to the future of the monarchy. We know that eventually they will play a much more major role in the Firm's operations but for now, along with seeing them do various royal duties and charitable endeavors, we're also seeing them as people outside of their royal titles. They're finding areas in their lives where they can express what is important to them. With Kate right now, its motherhood. With William its a love of flying and his aim of being there for people in need and with Harry its his love of the armed forces and those that serve.

In my opinion, this can only enhance how they are perceived in the time to come when they are full time working royals for the Firm.
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