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Old 08-09-2014, 06:55 AM
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I do not think anyone in the BRF is worried that W&K will overshadow Charles and Camilla.

If they felt this way then Charles & Camilla would have attended the higher profile World War I commemorative services in Belgium.

IMO, William wants to continue flying and the Queen & Charles reluctantly agreed to allow William to take the job.

Of course, if he is in a fatal accident then it will be Charles & Camilla's fault because they were jealous of W&K as they did not want the Cambridges to become full time royal.

All the blame will be heaped upon Charles & Camilla. No one will blame the stubborn William who refused to listen.

Wonder if the BRF thought about how it would affect them if a passenger dies while William is flying the helicopter?

If William survives the crash would they want a king who was responsible for the death of another person?

If William dies will they want Charles or will they blame him for his son's death?
In the line of work that William will be doing, air lifting is usually called for in extreme emergencies and it is, for the most part, a life or death matter. It is to be expected that there's no guarantee that all the patients they rescue will survive. It won't be the first time for William either. I believe at least one of the people he rescued while in SAR didn't make it.

All the personnel on the crew realize that they are putting themselves at risk with each rescue they go on. Should something go amiss, I seriously doubt there will be blame pointed at anyone.

I personally commend William in choosing to do this line of work in service to the people.
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Old 08-09-2014, 07:02 AM
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There is risk involved in almost everything. He already has experience dealing with the wind and sea from his SAR days. East Anglia doesn't have the mountains of Wales to worry about.

Oh remember went the Royal helicopter had make an emergency landing on a Charles and Camilla trip. So even if William just did royal duties, there is still a chance of an accident.


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Old 08-09-2014, 07:40 AM
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I am thinking, if the helicopter crashes while William is flying it and the patient is killed because of the crash then the blame will fall on Charles.

If William dies or injured, it will be Saint William who was flying a medievac helicopter because his mother died because a medievac helicopter was not used to airlift her to a hospital.

It will be Saint William who is forced to take the job because his selfish father was jealous that his son who resembles the beloved Princess Diana was overshadowing him.

I can see the headlines. It will doom for Charles because of Diana's stubborn son.
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Old 08-09-2014, 07:47 AM
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I think you need to stop thinking the worst and just see what happens.


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Old 08-09-2014, 07:48 AM
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I am thinking, if the helicopter crashes while William is flying it and the patient is killed because of the crash then the blame will fall on Charles.

If William dies or injured, it will be Saint William who was flying a medievac helicopter because his mother died because a medievac helicopter was not used to airlift her to a hospital.

It will be Saint William who is forced to take the job because his selfish father was jealous that his son who resembles the beloved Princess Diana was overshadowing him.

I can see the headlines. It will doom for Charles because of Diana's stubborn son.
Then again, everything could go right and they all live happily ever after with milk and cookies for all!
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:09 AM
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very sardonic! But I can understand! Somehow no matter what Willima does.... The blame is always on someone else!Especialli on Charles... :-(
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:29 AM
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Yes, William's job can be very dangerous and it's the kind of danger he was facing in the SAR. I think Catherine was relieved when he stepped down from his SAR job because of the worry she had, now that worry will come up again, as it does for many other wife's and family members. I just hope he gets through the training and the job safely.

Also, it's unfair to lay blame on Charles and Camilla. They fully support William's passions and his jobs. They're not jealous of the attention William and Catherine gets. Charles knows he and his family have major roles to play in the Monarchy and to keep it going. It's him that trained William in carrying out Investitures, it's Charles that had Catherine fill in for him at a charity dinner and it's Charles's family that now attend State events. Charles and Camilla are happy to share the burden of the Monarchy with the Cambridge's.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:11 AM
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Ok I am getting annoyed with people on here talking like they personally know the members of the BRF. No one knows what Charles or the Queen thinks; so why continuously use statements like they support William and his choices. You don't know one way or another what goes on behind closed doors. Let's he some perspective and recognize that none of us know what these people think or feel.
I don't know which poster said it, but I agree that William could get more real life experience and prepare for his future role by taking a different job in a different sector. I admit I don't know how Charles' duchy works or makes money, but I fear it will go bankrupt under William, because he spent all his time learning art history, geography, and how to be a pilot and not enough time on how to manage an estate.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:32 AM
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If that is true, and I'm not saying I don't believe you, the it would appear the family is not that big, unless all those kids get money from the Queen.
And let's say all their parents are out of the picture by the time Charles is King, isn't he going to need the help of the kids because Camilla William Charles Kate and Harry can't do it all? The full time royals are getting older aren't they? With the exception of the Wessex couple.
Yes it is true. none of these get money from the Queen. They donot carry out any royal duties.

your last point is right- there is no need to actively reduce the no of working royals. Of the 12 f/t royals, 4 are over 70; 5 over 60 and 3 in their 50s. Then there are 3 p/t

There will be fewer and there will be changes to how the BRF work.
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Old 08-09-2014, 10:04 AM
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Ok I am getting annoyed with people on here talking like they personally know the members of the BRF. No one knows what Charles or the Queen thinks; so why continuously use statements like they support William and his choices. You don't know one way or another what goes on behind closed doors. Let's he some perspective and recognize that none of us know what these people think or feel.
I don't know which poster said it, but I agree that William could get more real life experience and prepare for his future role by taking a different job in a different sector. I admit I don't know how Charles' duchy works or makes money, but I fear it will go bankrupt under William, because he spent all his time learning art history, geography, and how to be a pilot and not enough time on how to manage an estate.
William wouldn't be doing what he's doing without the love and support of his family.
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Old 08-09-2014, 10:13 AM
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I do not think anyone in the BRF is worried that W&K will overshadow Charles and Camilla.

If they felt this way then Charles & Camilla would have attended the higher profile World War I commemorative services in Belgium.

IMO, William wants to continue flying and the Queen & Charles reluctantly agreed to allow William to take the job.

Of course, if he is in a fatal accident then it will be Charles & Camilla's fault because they were jealous of W&K as they did not want the Cambridges to become full time royal.

All the blame will be heaped upon Charles & Camilla. No one will blame the stubborn William who refused to listen.

Wonder if the BRF thought about how it would affect them if a passenger dies while William is flying the helicopter?

If William survives the crash would they want a king who was responsible for the death of another person?

If William dies will they want Charles or will they blame him for his son's death?


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I am thinking, if the helicopter crashes while William is flying it and the patient is killed because of the crash then the blame will fall on Charles.

If William dies or injured, it will be Saint William who was flying a medievac helicopter because his mother died because a medievac helicopter was not used to airlift her to a hospital.

It will be Saint William who is forced to take the job because his selfish father was jealous that his son who resembles the beloved Princess Diana was overshadowing him.

I can see the headlines. It will doom for Charles because of Diana's stubborn son.
Too much wishful thinking, an intense need to criticize the Duke of Cambridge and displays of an irrational dislike towards him. It's all I can see in your posts.

I'm just sorry to see a picture of my dear Duchess of Cornwall with comments like these.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:00 AM
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i think speculating on the death of William is appalling.

lets just get this thread back on track.

He starts training in September and Ive read ( but cant find it) that he does have to undertake some paramedic training. Its a lot to learn if he has to take 14 exams as well as a test flight.

I wonder if this role was being considered v early on. He is going to see some awful sights but he knows that he can deal with it as he managed to view operations at The Royal Marsden.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:08 AM
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Unfortunately you seem to be reading my post as an attack against William rather than support for Charles and Camilla. Please read the entire thread.

Medievac helicopters crash. There has been several years where the crashes were major news stories because of several crashes in a brief period of time. Another time one medievac crashed and another was sent to retrieve the injured from the first crash and it too crashed.

I am just amazed that I was the only one that thought about what could happen.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:11 AM
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Not all royals - just William and Kate - in my experience.
No, it's all royals. This same exact same thing has been said on Sophia's board, Charlene's, Mary's, Letizia's, The York sisters, Camilla's. People complain all the time about how they can't say anything negative, or criticize their least favorite royal. There are quite a few boards that get heated and turn into attacks between the posters. This is not just a William and Kate thing.

Sorry, but I think speculating about William's death and what it would do to Charles and Camilla's reputation is disgusting.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:20 AM
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i think speculating on the death of William is appalling.

lets just get this thread back on track.

He starts training in September and Ive read ( but cant find it) that he does have to undertake some paramedic training. Its a lot to learn if he has to take 14 exams as well as a test flight.

I wonder if this role was being considered v early on. He is going to see some awful sights but he knows that he can deal with it as he managed to view operations at The Royal Marsden.
I'm sure that he'll probably undergo some emergency medical training but I seriously doubt that it'll qualify him as a paramedic. Where I am here in the US, to certify as a paramedic, it is at the least a two year course. He may train as a first responder or even an EMT. We won't know though unless his specific training is made public.

As for the possible gruesome sights. No matter how much training you've had or how many you have faced in your career, that is something that one never ever gets used to. Here where I am, its required of all personnel to attend debriefings and most organizations that serve in this capacity also offer psychological assistance too.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:34 AM
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Sorry, but I think speculating about William's death and what it would do to Charles and Camilla's reputation is disgusting.
If we can discuss what will happen to William if the Queen/Charles dies while he is working as a medievac pilot isn't that speculating about the Queen's, Philip's or Charles' death. It is only logical to think about the pilot doing the flying.
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I am thinking, if the helicopter crashes while William is flying it and the patient is killed because of the crash then the blame will fall on Charles.

If William dies or injured, it will be Saint William who was flying a medievac helicopter because his mother died because a medievac helicopter was not used to airlift her to a hospital.

It will be Saint William who is forced to take the job because his selfish father was jealous that his son who resembles the beloved Princess Diana was overshadowing him.

I can see the headlines. It will doom for Charles because of Diana's stubborn son.
Not seeing the logic in this but if this how you feel...

If the helicopter crashes then William sadly follows in the steps of his namesake. George and any possible sibling will move up in the line of succession. A funeral will be held and plans will be made for a possible regency should something happen to the little prince's great-grandmother and grandfather. There will be sadness but life will go on.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:42 AM
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No, it's all royals. This same exact same thing has been said on Sophia's board, Charlene's, Mary's, Letizia's, The York sisters, Camilla's. People complain all the time about how they can't say anything negative, or criticize their least favorite royal. There are quite a few boards that get heated and turn into attacks between the posters. This is not just a William and Kate thing.

Sorry, but I think speculating about William's death and what it would do to Charles and Camilla's reputation is disgusting.
I wholeheartedly agree. There is criticism of many royals here just as there is praise.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:43 AM
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Ok I am getting annoyed with people on here talking like they personally know the members of the BRF. No one knows what Charles or the Queen thinks; so why continuously use statements like they support William and his choices. You don't know one way or another what goes on behind closed doors. Let's he some perspective and recognize that none of us know what these people think or feel.
I don't know which poster said it, but I agree that William could get more real life experience and prepare for his future role by taking a different job in a different sector. I admit I don't know how Charles' duchy works or makes money, but I fear it will go bankrupt under William, because he spent all his time learning art history, geography, and how to be a pilot and not enough time on how to manage an estate.
Isn't the duchy run by more than just Charles? I admit I don't know much about it, but I remember reading that he appointed a council that helps him. I think that as long as William appoints people that know what they're doing, the duchy will be fine. Plus, we have no idea what steps he is taking behind the scenes to prepare for taking over the duchy.

ETA: I just found an article that stated William has started to attend meetings for the Duchy. So he is in fact preparing for this role.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-William.html
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Let us keep in mind that a royal can have an accident (Diana, Princess of Wales), can crash with a plane (the father of King Carl XVI Gustaf), fall from a mountain (the grandfather of King Albert II of the Belgians) or tumble in an avalanche (Prince Friso of Orange-Nassau). None of them had a "dangerous job" and all died by accident...
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