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Old 11-20-2014, 12:55 PM
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The 'Daily Beast' is satirical is it not ? So presumably this article is too ?
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:02 PM
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Is it? I honestly didn't know. Lol. It seems reasonable enough that they would be expected to not wear jeans and trainers at fancy events, etc.

On second look, they seem to carry legitimate news articles as well as satirical ones. I'm not sure that they're a 100% satirical news site such as The Onion is.
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:18 PM
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I'm not completely certain either [Hence the Question marks] Perhaps a US member might enlighten us ?
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:32 PM
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It does seem a little far fetched to me. I do recall, however, times that there have been pictures taken and published with royals at a reception holding a drink. Many royals too have been photographed while tasting food etc.

It would be a good idea though that when following high profile people and photographing them that the press do look at least a bit respectable and professional.
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:50 PM
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The 'Daily Beast' is satirical is it not ? So presumably this article is too ?
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Is it? I honestly didn't know. Lol. It seems reasonable enough that they would be expected to not wear jeans and trainers at fancy events, etc.

On second look, they seem to carry legitimate news articles as well as satirical ones. I'm not sure that they're a 100% satirical news site such as The Onion is.
According to their website under "About Us" they write:
"The Daily Beast delivers award-winning original reporting and sharp opinion from big personalities in the arenas of politics, pop-culture, world news and more. Fiercely independent and armed with irreverent intelligence, The Daily Beast now reaches more than 20 million readers per month. John Avlon is Editor-in-Chief and Mike Dyer is Chief Digital Officer. The Daily Beast is based in New York and is an operating business of IAC (NASDAQ: IACI)."

Not satirical, more irreverent.
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:53 PM
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It does seem a little far fetched to me. I do recall, however, times that there have been pictures taken and published with royals at a reception holding a drink. Many royals too have been photographed while tasting food etc.
Yes, you are correct. Especially during a toast, etc. Though I can't think of a photo where a Royal is actually drinking or eating something during the picture.

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It would be a good idea though that when following high profile people and photographing them that the press do look at least a bit respectable and professional.
Agreed. And the point about not standing between the Royal and the person(s) they're supposed to be meeting seems painfully obvious.

I think we'll put this one down as satire. Lol.
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:56 PM
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According to their website under "About Us" they write:
"The Daily Beast delivers award-winning original reporting and sharp opinion from big personalities in the arenas of politics, pop-culture, world news and more. Fiercely independent and armed with irreverent intelligence, The Daily Beast now reaches more than 20 million readers per month. John Avlon is Editor-in-Chief and Mike Dyer is Chief Digital Officer. The Daily Beast is based in New York and is an operating business of IAC (NASDAQ: IACI)."

Not satirical, more irreverent.
Thanks for that. It's hard to keep these 'news' sites straight these days. -_-
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:58 PM
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The 'Daily Beast' is satirical is it not ? So presumably this article is too ?
The "Daily Beast" is satirical the same way The Daily Mail is, aka a pompous publication spouting off malarky to their readers.

I did get a good laugh at you guys comparing it to The Onion. A well deserved insult for the Newsweek offshoot. LOL
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:45 PM
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Previous: Glad I could provide some humour at least! :P
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:26 PM
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Photographers reminded to 'dress up' if they wish to photograph Will & Kate in the US.

Dress Up, Journalists Covering Will and Kate Middleton's Vist To USA Told By Buckingham Palace - The Daily Beast
the "outrage" from Americans crying "but our 1st amendment" is legitimately making me shake with anger. As if a journalist would be allowed to show up to work in jeans any other time? But somehow, when the big bad former mummy the Palace tells us we have to look nice, suddenly that's a problem that our 1st amendment protects us from? I've studied poli sci for years and focused on Constitutional Law for a year. The blatant stupidity around the constitution is so insanely frustrating to me.

Of course journalists should be dress professionally when they're on the job! Part of your job is to look nice!

And as far as I can tell, the page on the royal website is a general thing that has been there for a while. It is not directed at Americans for this specific trip (unless it is a new thing added to the website).

The good news is that this seems to be a very small blip on the radar. I haven't seen it on any respectable news site, but then again I haven't been all over. (and goodness knows American media outlets love to pick up and run with a dumb and misconstrued story).
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Old 11-20-2014, 11:32 PM
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Previous: I did some Google searching to see where else I could find it and I did find a few other websites, but nothing major or reputable. I honestly wasn't aware of the dailybeasts's reputation as a news source before I posted it. I saw the article on a Duke & Duchess of Cambridge fan page on Facebook and just figured I'd share it. I didn't mean to stir up such bad feelings though, so for that, I'm sorry!


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And as far as I can tell, the page on the royal website is a general thing that has been there for a while. It is not directed at Americans for this specific trip (unless it is a new thing added to the website).
The implication from the article was that it had been sent out to those covering their stay in New York in a memo. Though comparing what's written there with what is written on the Palace website, I'm thinking that they perhaps just wrote the article on the guidelines from the site and made up the bit about the memo.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:50 AM
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Previous: I did some Google searching to see where else I could find it and I did find a few other websites, but nothing major or reputable. I honestly wasn't aware of the dailybeasts's reputation as a news source before I posted it. I saw the article on a Duke & Duchess of Cambridge fan page on Facebook and just figured I'd share it. I didn't mean to stir up such bad feelings though, so for that, I'm sorry!




The implication from the article was that it had been sent out to those covering their stay in New York in a memo. Though comparing what's written there with what is written on the Palace website, I'm thinking that they perhaps just wrote the article on the guidelines from the site and made up the bit about the memo.
I actually saw it on a different royal blog, so don't worry! You're not directly responsible for my anger, lol.

Yeah, and I missed the part where it says: Journalists wishing to cover Royal engagements, whether in the United Kingdom or abroad, should comply with the dress code on formal occasions out of respect for the guests of The Queen, or any other member of the Royal Family.

Emphasis on FORMAL.

This is clearly just a case of some American "journalists" being mad someone foreign told them what to do. It's so sad to see outrage over something that is so common.

I am interested to see what the American press will do when Will & Kate show up. lol, I expect they'll be dressed quite appropriately for the various events.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:33 AM
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the "outrage" from Americans crying "but our 1st amendment" is legitimately making me shake with anger. As if a journalist would be allowed to show up to work in jeans any other time? But somehow, when the big bad former mummy the Palace tells us we have to look nice, suddenly that's a problem that our 1st amendment protects us from? I've studied poli sci for years and focused on Constitutional Law for a year. The blatant stupidity around the constitution is so insanely frustrating to me.

Of course journalists should be dress professionally when they're on the job! Part of your job is to look nice!

And as far as I can tell, the page on the royal website is a general thing that has been there for a while. It is not directed at Americans for this specific trip (unless it is a new thing added to the website).

The good news is that this seems to be a very small blip on the radar. I haven't seen it on any respectable news site, but then again I haven't been all over. (and goodness knows American media outlets love to pick up and run with a dumb and misconstrued story).
We Americans forget that not everyone does things the same way we do. We like to isolate ourselves and hold ourselves to a different standard than the rest of the world. We'll tell you what to do, but don't tell us what to do.

Don't get me wrong, I love America, I have a problem with some Americans.
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:46 PM
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We Americans forget that not everyone does things the same way we do. We like to isolate ourselves and hold ourselves to a different standard than the rest of the world. We'll tell you what to do, but don't tell us what to do.

Don't get me wrong, I love America, I have a problem with some Americans.

My sentiments exactly.


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Old 11-21-2014, 01:20 PM
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I've watched the swearing in of an American president, and even the participants, [let alone the journalists covering the event, and spectators] seem congenitally unable to dress formally, even for the most solemn event in their national calendar !
It is no surprise then, that they insist upon their'right' to dress badly, in sportswear...
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:46 PM
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As a former member of the press...I do take some offense that we don't know how to dress for the occasion. I've covered many events as a producer and/or off camera reporter with a photographer and trust me, if the event is black tie we dress accordingly. Maybe not a tux, but nice suit for the photog and a cocktail dress for me. If the press release about the event requests a certain type of dress then we follow it even if it may not be the most comfortable for hauling around heavy equipment and being under the lights.


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Old 11-21-2014, 02:49 PM
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As a former member of the press...I do take some offense that we don't know how to dress for the occasion. I've covered many events as a producer and/or off camera reporter with a photographer and trust me, if the event is black tie we dress accordingly.

I'm sure you do, but really, sometimes it is shocking to see what some consider appropriate attire for weddings, funerals, or other events.

(Our workplace recently had to adopt a dress code; you'd think that wouldn't be necessary among adults but it was!)
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Old 11-21-2014, 03:05 PM
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This may seem an odd question but I'm going to ask it anyways. Its all over the place here in the States and I was wondering if it was similar in other countries. Do you have signs in establishments that say:

No shoes
No shirt
No service

Just wondering.
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Apparently just flight of fancy on the part of the American press
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