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Old 09-26-2016, 01:53 PM
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Old 09-26-2016, 02:42 PM
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His French is incredibly bad, like a first year student.
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Old 09-26-2016, 02:54 PM
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Living in Britain and travelling to Canada every few years, there is no occasion to use French. Unless you're using a language on a regular basis, you'll never pick it up.

Canada may officially be bilingual but in practice it's much different. Where I live no one speaks French.
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Old 09-26-2016, 03:17 PM
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Old 09-26-2016, 03:19 PM
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Living in Britain and travelling to Canada every few years, there is no occasion to use French. Unless you're using a language on a regular basis, you'll never pick it up.

Canada may officially be bilingual but in practice it's much different. Where I live no one speaks French.
That is not the point, I think. The point is that royal princes in continental Europe normally speak English and French fluently in addition to their own native language (i.e. Danish, Dutch, Spanish, etc.) and, often, they also speak German. Compared to that standard, the education of the British princes is lacking, especially for someone like William who is going to be king one day.

Britain may have voted to leave the European Union, but, as Boris Johnson said, that doesn't change the fact that it is an European country. One would expect European princes to speak at least one other major European language besides their own.
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Old 09-26-2016, 03:21 PM
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Old 09-26-2016, 03:23 PM
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For native French speakers on the board: is it that he speaks poorly (broken phrases, incorrect words, etc) or that he has a poor accent?


As for the question of royal etiquette, the monarchy's own webpage is explicit:

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There are no obligatory codes of behaviour when meeting The Queen or a member of the Royal Family, but many people wish to observe the traditional forms. For men this is a neck bow (from the head only) whilst women do a small curtsy. Other people prefer simply to shake hands in the usual way.
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Old 09-26-2016, 03:45 PM
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That is not the point, I think. The point is that royal princes in continental Europe normally speak English and French fluently in addition to their own native language (i.e. Danish, Dutch, Spanish, etc.) and, often, they also speak German. Compared to that standard, the education of the British princes is lacking, especially for someone like William who is going to be king one day.

Britain may have voted to leave the European Union, but, as Boris Johnson said, that doesn't change the fact that it is an European country. One would expect European princes to speak at least one other major European language besides their own.

And what purpose would there be in a Canadian Royal (as he is) speaking European French?

Anyone from Canada will inform you that the French that is spoken in Canada - especially the French spoken in Quebec - is most definitely not the French spoken in Europe. The two have had more than 200 years to evolve differently.
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Old 09-26-2016, 03:51 PM
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The Duke had an accent and words were not correctly pronounced. Note that the Duke was reading just some written lines. Maybe with phonetic instructions. This was no conversation vis-à-vis in French. I doubt he would succeed in that.

The continental princes often have a foreign parent: Willem-Alexander has a German parent. Catharina-Amalia has an Argentine parent. Frederik has a French parent. Felipe has a Greek parent, etc. But when I learn that 12-years old Amalia (Dutch-Spanish-English-German) has started lessons in Chinese (!) while she is in her first year on a Gymnasium (which includes Latin and classic Greek) then the efforts by the Duke of Cambridge look wafer-thin...
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And what purpose would there be in a Canadian Royal (as he is) speaking European French?

Anyone from Canada will inform you that the French that is spoken in Canada - especially the French spoken in Quebec - is most definitely not the French spoken in Europe. The two have had more than 200 years to evolve differently.

The spoken language differs in vocabulary and pronunciation (and, sometimes, in grammar in the more non-standard varieties), but the standard written language is actually the same in France and in Québec.

Standard written French is actually quite uniform in all French-speaking countries, more so actually than written English where, as you can tell from these forums, there are a few differences between American (US) English, British English, or Canadian English, not only in vocabulary, but also in spelling and sometimes even grammar (syntax and morphology).

Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles were taught Parisian French of course, and, whenever they were in Canada, they were perfectly understood. The Queen's French is not perfect either (not as good as Queen Beatrix's, Queen Margrethe's and Queen Sofia's for example), but she speaks it reasonably well. William should have been held to the same standard as his grandmother and his father IMHO, but that is probably a topic for another forum.


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Its a fact the children learn language MUCH easier than adults. The brain is moore malleable at 12 than at William's age.
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Old 09-26-2016, 04:07 PM
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William's proficiency in speaking French is well known. Nothing has changed. Nothing is going to change.

I'm sure there is a thread on languages for people who want to continue to beat the topic to death.
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Old 09-26-2016, 04:12 PM
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Thank you, Duc_et_Pair

I'll agree that the mispronunciations and not knowing words is a problem, but I'd frankly no more expect a Brit to speak French with a French accent than I expect the French to speak English with a native English accent.
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If you wish to continue the discussion about William's French, please do so in the 'What Languages Do Royals Speak' thread. Also, further discussions about protocol can be taken to the 'Bowing and Curtseying' thread.
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Excellent, mental health related article on Bella Bella's renaissance. Bella Bella, B.C.: The town that solved suicide - Macleans.ca

Please read down to the bit about youth offenders. I Loved the "Who's this white guy?" Look at these little ones slamming some salmon! http://www.macleans.ca/wp-content/up...POST01-1-1.jpg
Maybe another reason Bella Bella was on the tour?
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Prince William and Kate will be presented with food prepared by 50 elementary school children when they stop by Mission Hill Winery as part of their visit to Kelowna on Tuesday.

The main event of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's scheduled 55-minute visit to the winery is the Taste of British Columbia Festival, where the royals will move between stations showing off different aspects of the province's agriculture and food industries.

Four of those stations will be manned by chefs and students participating in the Chefs in the Classroom program.
Read more: Kelowna kids preparing food for royal visit - British Columbia - CBC News

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Prince William has endorsed the Great Bear Rainforest on B.C.'s central coast under the Queen's Commonwealth Canopy initiative.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were in the area to experience Indigenous culture in the small First Nation community of Bella Bella, along with B.C. Premier Christy Clark, who announced a $1-million trust will be created to celebrate the royal visit and to promote the unique landscape.

The Queen's Canopy Commonwealth initiative was launched in 2015 to create a network of forest conservation programs involving all 53 countries in the Commonwealth. As part of the network, regions can share ideas and innovations about forest conservation and receive global attention for their efforts.

The fund will help raise awareness about the Great Bear Rainforest and support ongoing research, the provincial government said in a statement
Read more: Royals in Bella Bella endorse Great Bear Rainforest as part of Queen's Commonwealth Canopy - British Columbia - CBC News
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Old 09-26-2016, 06:44 PM
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Duke and Duchess of Cambridge: Tour of Canada - Autumn 2016

Glad William and Kate got to see a really beautiful area of BC! The area (and the west coast in general!) is really stunning!!
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Old 09-26-2016, 06:55 PM
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interesting article on tonight's reception

"William and Kate urged to confront past colonial wrongs in Canada
At glitzy reception, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will come face to face with artwork representing ‘cultural genocide’"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...P=share_btn_tw

"She questioned whether this week’s visit would simply yield a series of photo opportunities using indigenous culture as a backdrop, or whether the royal couple would seek to address some of the tough issues. “It needs to move beyond the fun stuff to deal with the life and death issues facing First Nations,” she said. “This is their legacy. So what are they going to do to remedy that legacy?”

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It took me a while to find it but reading about the Great Bear rainforest and William's endorsing it reminded me that this isn't the first time in Canada that William has been approached to conservation efforts in regarding bears and the environment.

Not that long ago, I watched a movie called Spirit Bear which is a true story about a 15 year old boy, Simon Jackson, and his efforts to protect and preserve the Kermode bear which is native to British Columbia. There's a clip in the movie where Jackson presents a petition to Charles, William and Harry on their visit to British Columbia in 1998 (in the movie during the clip, it was implied that the petition was handed to the royals). Interesting to note that during this specific visit to Canada, William was billed as the "teenage heartthrob".

Its definitely a good movie to watch if you get a chance to.
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