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Old 09-25-2016, 01:16 PM
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I was there!

A couple of friends and I took the ferry over to the Island for the day for the event. It's not a cheap trip, nor a short one (between getting to the ferry, waiting for the ferry, taking the ferry, then driving into the city, you're looking at 3 hours each way), so it's somewhat discouraging to go over.

We walked about the city for a bit in the morning, and there was a definite buzz about the visit - Union Jacks in shop windows, and people chatting about the upcoming visit.

The streets around the Legislative Buildings were blocked off to traffic, and there were a lot of people there. I can easily believe 25,000 which is no small number - the city itself has a population of about 80,000, the metropolitan area around it only 345,000. Most of them were on the lawns of the buidlings itself, but a good chunk were across the street around the harbour. We showed up around there at about 2PM and took up spot across the street from the War Memorial. At the time, it was a neglected area and kind of looked like a not great spot to be in - we were clear to see things at the War Memorial, and we knew that they'd be laying a wreath and there would be a moment of silence, so we knew we'd see the couple, but we couldn't see the stage from where we were, and it was hard to hear. We wanted to go into the center of it, but we were told that at about 4 PM they were going to be closing off the street to foot traffic until after the event (so if you were on the lawn, you couldn't leave until after the royals were gone), and we knew we were going to have to leave early to make our ferry back.

The crowd was in a great mood, and cheering every time cameras panned over them (to some annoyance to the people who couldn't see the stage; every time cheers happened it was a "is something happening?!" only to be disappointed by the TV). A bit before 5 Premier Christy Clark and her son, Hamish, arrived (Clark is unmarried). Then a bit after that a convey arrived - people thought it held the Royal Couple, but it just had PM Justin Trudeau, Sophie Gregoire Trudeau, GG David Johnston, Sharon Johnston, and LG Judith Guichon (her husband was not in attendance).

Then a bit later a third convey arrived and parked right in front of the war memorial. A group got out of it and everyone freaked out because it included a tall, bald man in a blue suit. The man totally played it up a bit until people realized that he wasn't William - he got out of the car with his back to us, so we could just see the bald head over the car. The crowd that could see his face was overjoyed so everyone where I was started getting excited until he turned around. I had a moment of "wow, William's uglier than I expected" before I realized it wasn't William at all, but a member of the media who happened to be a bald man in a blue suit.

The Canadian contingent of the party went into the Legislative buildings to wait until a bit closer to when the couple was arriving. We were told that the Royals were expected at 5:05, but then we were told that they were running late (what the problem was was never revealed). At about quarter after we were told that they were going to be 5 minutes, but they didn't actually arrive until 5:30. A few minutes before the couple arrived the Canadian contingent of the party came out of the Legislative buildings, walked down the red carpet to the War Memorial and then stood on the corner of the street across from where I was, waiting for the couple to arrive. There were mild cheers for the GG and LG, as I don't think they're well known (I knew who the GG and his wife were, but didn't know the LG's name until yesterday), and a lot of cheers for the PM (not, I would say more than the royal couple, although perhaps a bit more than the bald man in the blue suit), and a mixture of cheers and boos for the Premier.

Everyone seemed to go overjoyed when William and Kate did arrive. It was a half hour late, and I think people were getting a bit restless, but once they arrived and the show was on everyone was happy. Perhaps a bit too much - as the couple got out of the car in front of the War Memorial, did the meet and greet with the Canadian contingent again, and then went right into the moment of silence at the War Memorial that the crowd was not ready for.

Sadly, I wasn't able to stick around past the moment of silence for any of the speeches, as we had to leave to catch our ferry.

Thank you for your report, Ish


It is interesting that you live in BC and didn't know the LG's name. Is that common in all Canadian provinces ? I assumed the LGs kept a higher profile.
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Duke and Duchess of Cambridge: Tour of Canada - Autumn 2016

Thanks, Ish
You give a good account of the event. It was nice to see the people of BC and Canada receive the Royal couple in such an enthusiastic manner. Just want to add that it was rather disappointing to see young Hamish(son of the Premier of BC) had his hands glued inside his trouser pockets. From his first appearance on the tarmac to waiting for their car to pull up at the end he seemed to struggle to keep his hands out of his pockets. Surely the youngsters are taught that it is poor manners, especially at such a grand occasion as personally meeting the Royal couple?


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I will add a few notes: I think there was a general feeling (at least where I was) that the tour has been poorly planned - I heard more than a few people make comments that whoever determined the itinerary did so with no knowledge of BC geography. Which is true - anyone who thinks that spending 1 day in Vancouver, the next in Bella Bella, then the next in Kelowna makes sense needs to look at a map.

I don't think anyone was surprised that the couple was late, as again the itinerary was rather poorly done. The plane landed at the airport at 4PM, there was a meet and greet there, then the Canadian contingent went to the Legislative Buildings while the Cambridges went to Government House to drop off the kids before coming to the Legislative Buildings for the event which was supposed to start at 5. It was supposed to be over at 6, then some of the party went back to Government House. Again, looking at basic geography this didn't even allow for any traffic congestion so the fact that the couple ended up being a half an hour late wasn't really a surprise to anyone (well, except for to one well dressed woman who looked like she was running the show and definitely was not happy).
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They have been there already twice in five years. The Cambridges are just getting started on their Royal life. They aren't even full time yet. There will be several more trips to the Canada in the future.


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Yes, I know, but I do think it would nice to now start up a deeper relationship with the Canadian people by now looking into charities and organizations there to support. Honorary military roles also allow the relationships to deepen. It gives the opportunity for the couple to individually become involved with the people and causes.

Again, take the lead of Charles, Anne and the Wessex's on this. Official trips are great, but a business trip is even greater.
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Old 09-25-2016, 01:32 PM
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Thank you for your report, Ish


It is interesting that you live in BC and didn't know the LG's name. Is that common in all Canadian provinces ? I assumed the LGs kept a higher profile.
I don't think the LG keeps a high profile at all. I don't think that's necessarily typical; I remember our last LG (Steven Point) who I actually thought was still the LG (I don't know why I thought this; it's a failing on my part, and as soon as I thought about it I realized that it was silly to think he was still LG as his term started 10 years ago).

It's similar with the GG; I only know who David Johnston is because I've made a point of knowing it, he doesn't keep a high profile at all. His two immediate predecessors, Michaelle Jean and Adrienne Clarkson, maintained much higher profiles.

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You give a good account of the event, thanks. It was nice to see the people of BC and Canada receive the Royal couple in such an enthusiastic manner. Just want to add that it was rather disappointing to see young Hamish(son of the Premier of BC) had his hands glued inside his trouser pockets. From his first appearance on the tarmac to waiting for their car to pull up at the end he seemed to struggle to keep his hands out of his pockets. Surely the youngsters are taught that it is poor manners, especially at such a grand occasion as personally meeting the Royal couple?
I've heard rumours that Hamish Marisen-Clark is something of a problem child, although how much those rumours have to do with a general dislike of his mother I can't say. Christy Clark isn't exactly known for following protocol herself though; you'll notice she was the only woman not wearing a hat, and there's a point in the procession where William and Kate were walking up the carpet to the stage, with most of the Canadian contingent staying behind them, but Clark made a beeline for the stage. I've seen a good amount of criticism on news articles for her having done that.
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Great welcome! But none of these "loyal subjects" bowed or curtsied....
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Yes, I noticed too that CC was the only woman who was not wearing a hat, also her rushing up to the stage. I also felt her choice of a bright red outfit was maybe too much as she was not the most important person present.

It seemed to me at times that people looked a bit uncertain as to what they were supposed to do , and when. As you say, they seemed to rush into things before everyone was ready. Lacking a bit of good organisation...


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Well almost forgot about this tour until flipping channels when I got home. Contrary to the fever for the royal tour bring reported, this your hasn't brought much excited talk. Grumbling from many about the cost. I notice our news made sure to clarify Kate was paying for her hairdresser and not the Canadian tax payers. Seems the cheque being picked up by Canada is a touchy subject not just here.
i am not surprised. they were mentioning the cost of their last trip at 650.000 dollars. i imagine this one will be around the same amount, as the most expensive things are transport, lodging and security which remain constant.
it is quite a sum, that i wonder if it wouldn't be best spent in perhaps supporting the charities they stand for.
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People always complain about the cost of tours when it comes to W&K but cricket when its Charles and Camilla
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Old 09-25-2016, 02:12 PM
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i am not surprised. they were mentioning the cost of their last trip at 650.000 dollars. i imagine this one will be around the same amount, as the most expensive things are transport, lodging and security which remain constant.
it is quite a sum, that i wonder if it wouldn't be best spent in perhaps supporting the charities they stand for.
No because William and Kate are members of the Canadian royal family and we want to see them.

A government department, Heritage Canada, is responsible for royal visits and the money comes out of it's budget.

Canada has around 6 royal visits a year
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Great welcome! But none of these "loyal subjects" bowed or curtsied....

So what ? I think it is no longer customary to bow or curtsy in Canada (which is a very egalitarian, North American country), as it is no longer customary BTW to bow or curtsy in Belgium and the Netherlands, and, in Sweden, it only happens occasionally / infrequently.
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The cost maybe lower since they are staying at Government House all but one night and they are only visiting 2 provinces. 2011 they went from Ottawa to Montreal, Quebec City, PEI to Whitehorse and then to Calgary more spread out travel.


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i am not surprised. they were mentioning the cost of their last trip at 650.000 dollars. i imagine this one will be around the same amount, as the most expensive things are transport, lodging and security which remain constant.
it is quite a sum, that i wonder if it wouldn't be best spent in perhaps supporting the charities they stand for.
Overall, I think the Canadians (and the Australians, the New Zealanders, etc.) have the best of both worlds, namely they get a royal family that costs them virtually nothing (except during the infrequent royal tours), and whatever they spend with the Governor General and his/her household pales in comparison with what other monarchies spend with their respective royal families or what many republics like France or the US spend with their presidents.

A pretty good deal if you ask me.
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