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Old 02-17-2011, 07:18 AM
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Canada offered to have them visit? Who pays for the trip? Security?
IMO, since the trip will not be at the behest of the UK Foreign Office, the UK government will probably not be paying. Instead I think the Canadian government will cover the local Canadian costs of the trip. The cost of the flights to and from Canada will probably be met by the PoW, who finances the offices of William and Harry. This is just my view, not stated fact.
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why would you be shocked at this? i'm from ns and they aren't coming here. they're not going to NL either. nor are they going to the nwt, the yukon or a number of other cities/provinces. not trying to start trouble but it's not really all that shocking. it would be nice if they could stop in all the provinces but it's not possible.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:18 AM
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In time.
At the moment, they live here, the wedding is here and they haven't been out of the London area much.
They're popping up to St Andrews for the simple reason, they went to University there.
What about the rest of the country? Even when married they will spend the majority of their time here, they will do the most engagements here.
It would be nice, IMO, if they visited this country before visiting the commonwealth realms.
As previosuly stated, I am sure they will carry out a roster of engagements across the kingdom, some of which may well be before the trip to Canada. The trip to Canada was probably announced, as another poster pointed out, because of the logistics and planning involved; engagements in the UK will probably require a lot less forward planning.
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Old 02-17-2011, 11:13 AM
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Canada offered to have them visit? Who pays for the trip? Security?
Metro - Newlyweds William & Kate to tour Canada

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While taxpayers will pay for the tour, Moore said the money has already been set aside as part of the department's regular budget for VIP trips.

"We have a responsibility as a government to make sure things are done in a way that is responsible with taxpayers money. Everybody recognizes that," he said.

"It will done with existing allocation of funds and require no new taxpayer money."

William and Kate have suggested they don't want big bucks spent on their nuptials in an acknowledgment of the dire financial situation in Britain.

Moore said their Canadian tour will also reflect that.

"This will be a respectful visit. Respectful in every context: respectful of a young couple who has just been married, respectful of the heir to the throne, respectful of taxpayers and respectful of audiences who want to have access to show their appreciate and their best wishes for a newly married couple," he said.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:01 PM
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i find it amazing that people ask "who's going to pay for it...the tax payer?" of course the tax payer is going to pay for it. the tax payer pays for EVERYTHING, where else does the money come from? it is an official visit so why should william and catherine pay for it? they were invited here by the prime minister so of course canada should pay for it. would people rather that we invite them and then tell them "oh by the way...you'll have to foot the bill for this". inspite of the fact that there are many people that don't see a point to the monarchy, HM feels enormous affection for this country and is trying to show that by both visiting here herself and having the future monarch visit as well.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:17 PM
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People will always complain about "the taxpayers money" without ever really understanding it. If people really knew where all their tax money went they would be livid but they don't so they channel their frustration on people like the Royal Family. I'm rather excited for this visit, I was planning on going to Canada this summer so might have to make some new plans to include the visit. It would be lovely if they went to Toronto though, I was quite surprised to not see that on the list. I'm getting excited, it looks like we will be seeing a far bit of Kate and Wills after the wedding. With the incoming USA state visit just announced(!!!!I haven't been this excited for a state visit since M. and Madame Sarkozy came!!!) and their visit to Canada we shld get plenty.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:27 PM
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Previous Royal visits to Canada have not included visits to every province- the country is simply too big to visit in a few weeks! Usually, they try to visit new places on future trips. I think it is great William and Kate are including smaller communities in this visit- it will give Kate a great view of the contrasts and diversity that makes Canada what it is.

And those of us in British Columbia can be confident that they WILL come here, someday!
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:45 PM
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why would you be shocked at this? i'm from ns and they aren't coming here. they're not going to NL either. nor are they going to the nwt, the yukon or a number of other cities/provinces. not trying to start trouble but it's not really all that shocking. it would be nice if they could stop in all the provinces but it's not possible.
Well no I know but especially considering the early reports of how the trip would go and what parts of Canada it would consist I was kinda shocked when the list was completely opposite. I mean no disrespect to everyone who will get to see them not saying any one part of Canada is more worthy than another but I can't help but be a bit disappointed.
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:45 PM
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People will always complain about "the taxpayers money" without ever really understanding it. If people really knew where all their tax money went they would be livid but they don't so they channel their frustration on people like the Royal Family. I'm rather excited for this visit, I was planning on going to Canada this summer so might have to make some new plans to include the visit. It would be lovely if they went to Toronto though, I was quite surprised to not see that on the list. I'm getting excited, it looks like we will be seeing a far bit of Kate and Wills after the wedding. With the incoming USA state visit just announced(!!!!I haven't been this excited for a state visit since M. and Madame Sarkozy came!!!) and their visit to Canada we shld get plenty.
Wait? Did I miss something? Kate and William are coming to USA ?? I most have missed this announcement

Edit- ok I re read the post, do you mean Obamas coming to England?
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:53 PM
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People will always complain about "the taxpayers money" without ever really understanding it. If people really knew where all their tax money went they would be livid but they don't so they channel their frustration on people like the Royal Family.
Indeed, many people complaining about tax payer's money I find quite often literally only have that line "but it's our money they're wasting!" as they're entire argument. They've no idea exactly where "their" money has come from, what else it has been spent on by the government, what exactly their money is or is not paying for with regards to royals. It's like a reflex argument with no actual thought..."Argh, they're wasting my money, hate them!" In my view the money spent on the royals in the UK is a pittance compared to money wasted elsewhere, if only everyone were up in arms about that wastage like they are for anything with the royals! Anyway...probably a rant for another thread

Back on topic, how are the planned visit being reported/viewed over in Canada (aside from some upset that they arne't due to visit their city etc). I mean in general, is it being viewed in a positive light, is there excitment already or is it not getting much notice & it'd be a bigger deal nearer the time.
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Old 02-17-2011, 06:14 PM
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I hope they love Canada as much as I do. My most favorite place to stay is Niagara-on-the Lake, Ontario. I go there whenever I can. Love the black squirrels! Oh, Canada!

Vancouver is such a lovely place, I am very surprised it is not on the itinerary.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:07 PM
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Indeed, many people complaining about tax payer's money I find quite often literally only have that line "but it's our money they're wasting!" as they're entire argument. They've no idea exactly where "their" money has come from, what else it has been spent on by the government, what exactly their money is or is not paying for with regards to royals. It's like a reflex argument with no actual thought..."Argh, they're wasting my money, hate them!" In my view the money spent on the royals in the UK is a pittance compared to money wasted elsewhere, if only everyone were up in arms about that wastage like they are for anything with the royals! Anyway...probably a rant for another thread

Back on topic, how are the planned visit being reported/viewed over in Canada (aside from some upset that they arne't due to visit their city etc). I mean in general, is it being viewed in a positive light, is there excitment already or is it not getting much notice & it'd be a bigger deal nearer the time.
Watched Global last night they went to the people on the street and IMO from the short clip I saw not too many seemed thrilled. They seemed to care more about how much the trip would cost. Hopefully that's not the vibe throughout the whole country.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:25 AM
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You know, I've never visited my youngest nephew in Ottawa before. Wonder if he'd mind company for Canada Day?

Why am I not surprised the media are acting like this is some horrible thing they're not going to Toronto. Part of the reason no one really knows that Charles and Diana came to Sudbury in 1991, is because it wasn't just a visit by them. It was also the Official Welcome to both Canada and The Province of Ontario. Not just a normal visit to Sudbury of TRH and the Toronto Media were more than just a bit nasty in their reaction to that happening in, and I quote...

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A hick backwards Northern Ontario Mining Town that isn't even close to being a proper place to officially welcome Their Royal Highnesses.
Which, of course, not only insulted the entire Region to such a degree, but the City Council was even going forward w/Libel and Slander Suits against certain newspapers for their venomous treatment of both Sudbury and Northeastern Ontario during that period of time. They were settled out of court in the end, but it's an example of what can happen when the Toronto (Centre of the Universe in Canada) Media thinks they're being "snubbed" when it comes to something big, like this Tour will be.

So the reaction doesn't surprise me at all. I'm not surprised they're not going to BC this time either, because William's last visit to Canada *was* to BC. Of course that wasn't an official visit, but it was still a visit. It wouldn't surprise me if that came into the consideration of where, when the Tour takes place, TRH would visit in a few months. :)

Just my $0.02 Cdn!! :)
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Old 02-18-2011, 02:00 AM
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I just hope I don't have to wait a long time to see them. I heard William enjoyed the skiing over here last time. To William: any time you and Kate feel like going skiing your welcome to come over here hehe
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Old 02-18-2011, 03:28 PM
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I will see if I can find any of Diana doing the same when she first visited Canada.
After asking myself the same question, I pulled out a book of Charles and Diana's visit to Canada in 1983 (Diana's first) and was surprised to discover that the tiaras came out 5 times:

Cambridge Lover's Knot tiara with cream gown in Ottawa
Cambridge Lover's Knot tiara with yellow gown
Spencer tiara with aqua gown in St. John, NB
Spencer Tiara with red gown in Edmonton
Cambridge Lover's Knot tiara with a bright pink dress in Ottawa. I have pictures of this in a book but cannot find any online. The same dress was worn in Australia (but with the Spencer tiara) also in 1983

If there are any state dinners during Kate and William's upcoming visit (which is very likely, as they are visiting the national capital), I think we can expect to see a tiara or two as well!
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Old 02-19-2011, 06:17 AM
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i find it amazing that people ask "who's going to pay for it...the tax payer?" of course the tax payer is going to pay for it. the tax payer pays for EVERYTHING, where else does the money come from? it is an official visit so why should william and catherine pay for it? they were invited here by the prime minister so of course canada should pay for it. would people rather that we invite them and then tell them "oh by the way...you'll have to foot the bill for this". inspite of the fact that there are many people that don't see a point to the monarchy, HM feels enormous affection for this country and is trying to show that by both visiting here herself and having the future monarch visit as well.
Hm! I think this is directed at me since I asked who is paying for the trip; however, I did not say "the taxpayer". That was in a reply to me. I wanted to know if it was official and what about security (my vote is for the Mounties in full uniform to be there every minute... not because I want to see them but to protect Prince William & Kate... really.... ).

It will irk many people who are unimpressed with royalty that is just common sense. It's not like Canada took a vote about whether to invite them, or not. Harper relays the invite but where it actually comes from I am not sure.

I obviously (since I am on this board) enjoy royalty but not everybody shares this or sees the value of a royal visit. We don't know for certain if Prince William will be the future monarch yet as he is behind his father in the line of succession. History teaches us many things happen to change that.

If Prince William though wants to really cut down on things because of the economy, I haven't seen it yet.

It would be interesting to see Prince William as the Stampede Parade marshall! I'm sure at least he will be "white hatted" and possibly be given a native name as his father was.

I saw the Queen and Prince Philip in person in Canada and am very happy that I did . Perhaps there will be some royalty converts in the crowds who see Prince William. Seeing them in person rather than just in the press is quite refreshing.
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Interesting blog by Judy Wade. Since she has an experience traveling and writing about the BRF...I don't think she is being snippy, or saying that Kate isn't up for the job. Just another example that being "on" all the time, isn't an easy task.


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I wonder if Kate, sorry Catherine, Middleton has the faintest idea how tough her first royal tour will be.

When newlywed William and his wife fly off to Canada at the end of June, the new Princess will have experienced only a handful of official royal engagements here at home. To date she has done one evening job in Norfolk just before Christmas and has two more lined up this week in remote Anglesey and St.Andrews.

Canada, here she comes... - Wedding fever
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Interesting blog by Judy Wade. Since she has an experience traveling and writing about the BRF...I don't think she is being snippy, or saying that Kate isn't up for the job. Just another example that being "on" all the time, isn't an easy task.


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I wonder if Kate, sorry Catherine, Middleton has the faintest idea how tough her first royal tour will be.

When newlywed William and his wife fly off to Canada at the end of June, the new Princess will have experienced only a handful of official royal engagements here at home. To date she has done one evening job in Norfolk just before Christmas and has two more lined up this week in remote Anglesey and St.Andrews.

Canada, here she comes... - Wedding fever
I have to agree here. I think this Canada trip isn't a wise a idea. Catherine/Kate ought to do official trips in the UK, just like Diana did when she first married. I wonder if the new Princess would like tired and strained after a few days. If she doesn't, hats off to her and she proved the naysayers wrong on her not being up to the job as a royal.
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I have to agree here. I think this Canada trip isn't a wise a idea. Catherine/Kate ought to do official trips in the UK, just like Diana did when she first married.
Thank God, someone who thinks the same as I. Minus the Diana bit.
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I definitely think she neds to start her royal life in this way. The life in private and so on will be over for her on the day she marries and so she had better get started. Offical life will and should be an immediate part of their life as a couple. IMO
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