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Old 05-28-2014, 01:58 PM
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Hell, many a 30 year old would love to have a tight uplifted bum like Kate's. A wee bit of jealousy might be charging all this fuss over nothing.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:18 PM
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This is definitely worth reading - its about attacking upskirt pictures, not the person in question. A different perspective from a UK paper which is not misogynistic in tone or casual sexism. And its a women writing this.

Kate Middleton in Bild: We should be outraged by all upskirt pictures - Comment - Voices - The Independent
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Thank you for sharing this cepe. Why should any person be subjected to this type of intrusive photography? If we see a person with toilet paper stuck to their show, zipper or button undone, shouldn't our first reaction be to discreetly call attention to the problem so the wearer is not embarrassed? Why do people go out of their way to photograph women under their dresses or skirts? Snapping pictures of mothers nursing their babies happens as well. It's a gross invasion of privacy.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:26 PM
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This is definitely worth reading - its about attacking upskirt pictures, not the person in question. A different perspective from a UK paper which is not misogynistic in tone or casual sexism. And its a women writing this.

Kate Middleton in Bild: We should be outraged by all upskirt pictures - Comment - Voices - The Independent
Excellent articles and so true. Thanks for posting.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:27 PM
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This is definitely worth reading - its about attacking upskirt pictures, not the person in question. A different perspective from a UK paper which is not misogynistic in tone or casual sexism. And its a women writing this.

Kate Middleton in Bild: We should be outraged by all upskirt pictures - Comment - Voices - The Independent
A brilliant read indeed. Gwendolyn hit the right tone, IMO.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:32 PM
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This is definitely worth reading - its about attacking upskirt pictures, not the person in question. A different perspective from a UK paper which is not misogynistic in tone or casual sexism. And its a women writing this.

Kate Middleton in Bild: We should be outraged by all upskirt pictures - Comment - Voices - The Independent
THANK YOU! This is an excellent article. The especially sad thing here is that the photographer supposedly is a woman ... a double shame IMO. I also may be a cynic but if anyone believes this woman is giving the fee to a charity ... well, I have a bridge to sell you. Furthermore, giving 1% of her fee doesn't count. These pictures are ALL about the money, or in the case of the subway photographer, perversion.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:33 PM
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The British lackey media is showing indignation toward the Australian or German or other media. The bad voyeuristic misogynistic society is to blame. It is a usual narrative. The British royal family has to deal with it as just the other royal families do.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:37 PM
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This is definitely worth reading - its about attacking upskirt pictures, not the person in question. A different perspective from a UK paper which is not misogynistic in tone or casual sexism. And its a women writing this.

Kate Middleton in Bild: We should be outraged by all upskirt pictures - Comment - Voices - The Independent
If it was only true. The only time when British Magazines don't act reckless is when the BRF are involved (especially the Cambridges), other than that they are the first ones to print all kind of wardrobe malfunctions of anyone and much worse. Now they are pointing the finger at BILD if they were the source of evil, what a joke.

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Old 05-28-2014, 02:41 PM
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If it was only true. The only time when British Magazines don't act reckless is when the BRF are involved (especially the Cambridges), other than that they are the first ones to print all kind of wardrobe malfunctions of anyone and much worse. Now they are pointing the finger at BILD if they were the source of evil, what a joke.

EDIT@Al_bina, just noticed your post, agree 100 %
The Independent is not the usual British tabloid trash. IT is a thoughtful, questioning and analytical paper, very good on social issues.

They dont "do" royal stories. This is NOT a royal story - it's about how women are generally treated.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:57 PM
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It's an excellent article. What I find funny is the British media won't publish the picture but will publish a article about someone else publishing the pictures.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:57 PM
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This is definitely worth reading - its about attacking upskirt pictures, not the person in question. A different perspective from a UK paper which is not misogynistic in tone or casual sexism. And its a women writing this.

Kate Middleton in Bild: We should be outraged by all upskirt pictures - Comment - Voices - The Independent

Thank you for sharing this, Cepe.

While I agree - whole heartedly - with the sentiment being expressed in this article, I think there is a huge difference between someone taking a photo like this one and someone taking an upskirt or downblouse shirt.

People make a lot of comparisons between Kate in these incidences and women who are essentially attacked by photographers are they climb out of a vehicle with the intention of getting a crotch shot, or go around deliberately trying to take pictures up skirts that are not having wind problems. That's where the term comes from; someone is using a camera to take a picture or video up a skirt that is supposed to be hiding a person's private area.

Kate's private area is not being hidden here. She is not being harassed by a photographer who is going out of their way to take a picture of something that isn't being exposed. She has accidentally exposed herself, and someone happened to be taking pictures of her at the time. These people would have been taking pictures of her regardless of her exposed behind. They are not assaulting her in the way that people taking upskirt photos are assaulting their victims.

If Kate were climbing out of a car and someone took a crotch shot of her, I would feel horrified for her. If someone walked up to her with a camera on the ground and took a photo up her skirt, I would be mortified and hope that she sued or pressed charges. That is a form of assault. But someone taking a picture while she struggles with the wind is a different story.
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Thank you for sharing this cepe. Why should any person be subjected to this type of intrusive photography? If we see a person with toilet paper stuck to their show, zipper or button undone, shouldn't our first reaction be to discreetly call attention to the problem so the wearer is not embarrassed? Why do people go out of their way to photograph women under their dresses or skirts? Snapping pictures of mothers nursing their babies happens as well. It's a gross invasion of privacy.
I agree!
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Old 05-28-2014, 03:42 PM
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Absolutely spot on, as indeed is the article ...

So disappointing to see so much self righteous 'tut tutting' here in this forum too. Mostly [i note] from other women who often seem to fall over themselves to denigrate and 'do down' other members of their sex !
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Old 05-28-2014, 03:56 PM
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Absolutely spot on, as indeed is the article ...

So disappointing to see so much self righteous 'tut tutting' here in this forum too. Mostly [i note] from other women who often seem to fall over themselves to denigrate and 'do down' other members of their sex !

Agreed totally. I always find that so ugly
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Old 05-28-2014, 03:58 PM
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Thank you for sharing this cepe. Why should any person be subjected to this type of intrusive photography? If we see a person with toilet paper stuck to their show, zipper or button undone, shouldn't our first reaction be to discreetly call attention to the problem so the wearer is not embarrassed? Why do people go out of their way to photograph women under their dresses or skirts? Snapping pictures of mothers nursing their babies happens as well. It's a gross invasion of privacy.
I certainly agree 100%. My take on this entire subject is that most of the pictures taken of Kate in embarrassing situations is done by women.
One must stop and wonder if money is the only issue--maybe jealousy of looks, shape and certainly status in the world could be the great motive of these stalkers.
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I hope my mobile app breaks again. Seriously, this is the same discussion over and over and over. 😖
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Old 05-28-2014, 04:01 PM
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Oh, come on...it is a Royal story. It's about how the heir to the heir's wife is unconcerned about her wardrobe malfunctions or she is a blatant attention seeker. If you don't want your personals talked about, don't set yourself up in a full skirted dress with no slip and, perhaps, no underwear when you know you are going to be around a helicopter with rotating blades. Sorry, she must be thick as a brick to continue letting this happen.
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Old 05-28-2014, 04:30 PM
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Oh, come on...it is a Royal story. It's about how the heir to the heir's wife is unconcerned about her wardrobe malfunctions or she is a blatant attention seeker. If you don't want your personals talked about, don't set yourself up in a full skirted dress with no slip and, perhaps, no underwear when you know you are going to be around a helicopter with rotating blades. Sorry, she must be thick as a brick to continue letting this happen.
You're missing the entire point and calling her an attention seeker is a straight up rude statement to make. It's never okay to photograph people in such sensitive situations but it keeps on happening to women.

So I guess paps taking pictures (with extremely good lenses that take quality shots of extreme distances) of her bare breasts on a private holiday is fine too, in your eyes?
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I did not miss the entire point. No photographer could know the opportunity would be there. The offending photo is probably part of a film burn of 100 auto snaps. The reason it took two weeks to find it was because it was buried in thousands of snaps.

She is, IMO, an attention seeker or this would not have been the EIGHTH Marilyn Moment for Kate. EIGHT times, not one, not two...

I'm not talking about women in general, I'm commenting about Kate.
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Old 05-28-2014, 04:43 PM
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Let's be honest here, there are some people who clearly enjoy these moments because it gives them an opportunity to criticize. Curiously, these people remain silent during those times when Kate is carrying out her duties superbly.
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