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Old 07-21-2017, 10:44 PM
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I shouldn't think that they pay any attention to what other royals do. The children are not the same, their characters cannot be assumed to be the same.

The Cambridges do what they consider right for their own children.
Aren't the Cambridges rumoured to go on a Scandinavian tour later this year ? If they go to Sweden and bring George and Charlotte along again, the children will have an opportunity to meet Estelle.
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:54 PM
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Wasn't the poor baby crying because she had just taken a nasty spill out on the tarmac?

She was doing what many toddlers do when they fall down and hurt themselves. They cry for a minute and their parents try to comfort them. DOWN WITH THE FAIL!
She did not fall down and hurt herself, she threw herself on the ground after stomping her feet. So funny that the DF reported it but had no footage! They lie no matter what. Just search for p charlotte tantrum and you will find many clips by other news organizations. Looks like the doc took away the gifts the children had just received before they boarded the helicopter and that was the straw that broke the camels back. Whole thing well handled by doc
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:58 PM
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One thing is obvious. Whomever writes this load of crap over at the Fail have absolutely no clue what its like to be a parent of a two year old.

Know what I'd love to see and wish I had the money to do it? Start up a publication where the sole job of the writers would be to nitpick on every mishap, every grammatical error, every little made up "scoop" and every little title they get wrong at the Fail. We could call it "The Daily Failure".

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She threw herself down alright and it looked as though they are used to that! The daily mail just didn't get that footage but are capitalizing on those who,did. Just google it and see For yourself
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Old 07-22-2017, 04:34 AM
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I saw a little princess who looked very tired - rubbing her eyes, one leg hanging limp when she was being carried - and having whatever that was taken from her, when she wanted to keep hold of it, was just too frustrating for one her age.
Poor wee soul! She did very well really, and seems a most delightful little girl.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:12 AM
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One thing is obvious. Whomever writes this load of crap over at the Fail have absolutely no clue what its like to be a parent of a two year old.

Know what I'd love to see and wish I had the money to do it? Start up a publication where the sole job of the writers would be to nitpick on every mishap, every grammatical error, every little made up "scoop" and every little title they get wrong at the Fail. We could call it "The Daily Failure".

Any takers?
I would love that!

It wouldn't take money to start a thread on that here, but I think the interest would wear off fairly quickly.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:20 AM
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I do wonder at the wisdom of having the children with them on this particular tour. They were on parade on and off planes but this was no "family" official visit to Poland and Germany. It was a Brexit Tour.
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:31 AM
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I think the purpose was that the children would go with them but not be paraded around but close by so they could be a family at night and there in the early morning.

The kids weren't planned into any of the events that Will & Kate attended while on the tour and that's why we only saw the kids coming and going various places when they changed locations.
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:51 AM
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It was stated that the children weren't initially going to come. So the planning of the tour itinerary would not have planned events in for the kids to participate in. The travel time to Poland and Germany isn't that long plus they were staying in the capitals so there wasn't any hotel rooms. So taking the kids did dramatically increase the planning or cost of security. Nanny Maria was probably able to take them to a zoo or park on the down low. The embassy could have organized play groups with kids of their employees etc.

Some how I keep getting a post error trying to fix the above post: need to add a not to line above bringing the kids and planning and security
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:02 PM
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Did they stay at the embassies?
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:11 PM
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Wow, those kids are adorable. I know a lot of people object to the Cambridges bringing their kids on the tour when they had very little "air time" and thus seeing it as pointless but seeing those videos of the couple teaching George and Charlotte to shake hands with officials, wave, walk in front of crowds and cameras makes me think that they see the tour as a learning opportunity for the kids. The couple clearly wants them to have a positive attitude towards their official roles and be comfortable in what they'll do in the future and this is one way to do it.
The point I hav seen made us why always on tour? Why do the people in the UK get to see the kids at troopong and the rare photo shoot, but they take them on tour? If they are old enough to make little appearances on tour, they certainly should be old enough to do so back home.

It's great to see them get comfortable. You see how well it works with Estelle. But seems odd they don't climatize the kids back home.
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:27 PM
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The kids are seen in the UK though...they were just at the Trooping a month ago.

I would imagine as they get older we will see them more if the event is appropriate for them.


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Old 07-22-2017, 12:49 PM
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The kids are seen in the UK though...they were just at the Trooping a month ago.

I would imagine as they get older we will see them more if the event is appropriate for them.


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I mentioned trooping. Once a year, at a distance, up on a balcony. Or at a distance at church with the Midfletons.

If the point is to get them comfortable with press, why is it always in a foreign country? Instead of disrupting their schedule and taking them on a tour, why not introduce them to public back home?

It's a bit of a stretch at best to say only time appropriate is on foreign soil.

I agree with posters who said they aren't influenced by Victoria. Victoria doesn't take her kids on trips, except when nursing. She instead introduces them at home. Helps when you aren't adding missed naps, disrupted schedules and strange places ontop of all the attention.
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Old 07-22-2017, 01:08 PM
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The point I hav seen made us why always on tour? Why do the people in the UK get to see the kids at troopong and the rare photo shoot, but they take them on tour? If they are old enough to make little appearances on tour, they certainly should be old enough to do so back home.

It's great to see them get comfortable. You see how well it works with Estelle. But seems odd they don't climatize the kids back home.
I think its basically the Cambridges adapting their public roles to mesh with their family. Its not so much about the tours and the events or parading the kids in public but actually being able to be with the kids themselves.
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Old 07-22-2017, 01:38 PM
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Charlotte reaching up to get that man's attention is precious!!

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Yes Kate very easily diverted that into a minor blip. I do love that both those kids are being raised by their parents..nanny's are for backup/care when the adults are working.


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Kate handled that brilliantly. I loved how she did not get ruffled by it but just took over, picked up Charlotte, and went about her business.

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One thing is obvious. Whomever writes this load of crap over at the Fail have absolutely no clue what its like to be a parent of a two year old.

Know what I'd love to see and wish I had the money to do it? Start up a publication where the sole job of the writers would be to nitpick on every mishap, every grammatical error, every little made up "scoop" and every little title they get wrong at the Fail. We could call it "The Daily Failure".

Any takers?
Great idea!! I like to call them the Daily Smell.

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Wow, those kids are adorable. I know a lot of people object to the Cambridges bringing their kids on the tour when they had very little "air time" and thus seeing it as pointless but seeing those videos of the couple teaching George and Charlotte to shake hands with officials, wave, walk in front of crowds and cameras makes me think that they see the tour as a learning opportunity for the kids. The couple clearly wants them to have a positive attitude towards their official roles and be comfortable in what they'll do in the future and this is one way to do it.
I agree. Also, since this was a "charm offensive" regarding Brexit, I think the children played a big role in this. Not only did they get lessons in being in front of the public and shaking hands, but they also were quite charming with Charlotte getting her bouquet of flowers and executing that precious curtsey, and George looking so precious and delighted in the helicopter. I am not suggesting that they should be "used" for the purposes, but if the truth be told, this is going to be part of their future roles and it is better to get used to it at a very young age so that it just becomes part of your life so it won't be such a big shock later on.
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Old 07-22-2017, 02:45 PM
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George has been to an up-close-and-personal event on British soil, when they took him to the air show.

I wonder if it's not an accident that a disproportionate number of public or semi-public "interaction with people" events they've been to have involved airplanes, whether getting on or off or looking at them. It's interesting to the kids, it's exciting, and it's generally brief. Most others have involved other kids (NZ and Victoria) and animals (AUS zoo, polo, Victoria), again things that are inherently compelling.

It seems like a good way of easing them into it, TBH. Introducing a child to interacting with people is easier if they actually *want* to be at the event.
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After looking at the photos of George in the helicopter on the last day of the tour, I've come to believe that when he's with things that interest him or when he feels comfortable; he's at his most confident. He seemed quite confident when he was in the helicopter, particularly here (this photo is adorable and William's facial expression is every bit the proud father!). A poster in the children's own thread suggested that perhaps George had been asleep on the journey to Poland and saw the crowds when he woke up and didn't feel up to it because he was still tired. I think this was probably the case since both George and Charlotte looked quite sleepy when they were leaving Germany yesterday too. George is still young and therefore still has time to develop his character - and different children have different personalities so George may well be more introverted than his little sister.
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Old 07-22-2017, 07:21 PM
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Kate handled that brilliantly. I loved how she did not get ruffled by it but just took over, picked up Charlotte, and went about her business.
Absolutely ...no drama or fuss.


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Old 07-23-2017, 04:09 AM
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I think the purpose was that the children would go with them but not be paraded around but close by so they could be a family at night and there in the early morning.

The kids weren't planned into any of the events that Will & Kate attended while on the tour and that's why we only saw the kids coming and going various places when they changed locations.
Quite right Osipi.

It wasn't that kind of tour, so there were no family based engagements and no one would expect that there would be. Given that, I just wonder would the children have been better off in their own home environment with Maria, rather than in strange surroundings and for the most part without their parents. William and Kate's engagements would have take up the majority of their time, the whole point of the tour after all.

I think both behaved very well given their young ages, but they are very young, just now maybe a bit too young to be Brexit ambassadors.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:06 AM
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When seen from the perspective of the children themselves, I would imagine that they'd feel much more comfortable seeing their parents at least once a day than going for what would seem like an eternity without seeing Mummy and Daddy while the parents were on the tour.

It all kind of fits in with what we, ourselves, remember as children. It seemed like millions of years before we would be grown up and could do the things that grown ups do but once we did reach being a grown up, time flies by way to fast for our liking.
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Old 07-23-2017, 08:28 AM
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After looking at the photos of George in the helicopter on the last day of the tour, I've come to believe that when he's with things that interest him or when he feels comfortable; he's at his most confident. He seemed quite confident when he was in the helicopter, particularly here (this photo is adorable and William's facial expression is every bit the proud father!). A poster in the children's own thread suggested that perhaps George had been asleep on the journey to Poland and saw the crowds when he woke up and didn't feel up to it because he was still tired. I think this was probably the case since both George and Charlotte looked quite sleepy when they were leaving Germany yesterday too. George is still young and therefore still has time to develop his character - and different children have different personalities so George may well be more introverted than his little sister.
That photo--I had seen it before but hadn't noticed that was William behind George. I often see resemblances to his cousin Peter or his mother, amongst other relatives, but in that photo I see a bit of his Uncle Andrew.
Helicopters and planes seem to be high on the list of George's favorite things. He was over the moon.
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