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Old 01-07-2015, 12:30 PM
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Well, I doubt Camilla will take on the role and she already have several appointments. I think it would be good for Catherine to take up the role and she is a future Princess of Wales. Also, Catherine wouldn't be replacing anyone, she would be an Allied-Colonel in Chief of the regiment.
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I really don't think Camilla will take up the role. I'd be surprised if she did. Camilla isn't officially known as The Princess of Wales. It's Catherine that will likely go by the title. Outside the title association, I think it would be a great regiment for Catherine to get involved with.
I think if Catherine took the role on whilst Camilla was Princess of Wales, it would be a real slight to her.

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So let's wait until the Duchess of Cambridge is Princess of Wales, so she'll be able to take up the role.

I'm sure there are other regiments for her.
I completely agree with you. When Princess of Wales, Catherine can take the role on.
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Old 01-07-2015, 08:10 PM
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I think if Catherine took the role on whilst Camilla was Princess of Wales, it would be a real slight to her.



I completely agree with you. When Princess of Wales, Catherine can take the role on.
I have a feeling that neither Her Majesty, nor the Prince of Wales would allow that to happen. It's quite obvious that they want Catherine to be in the background.



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Old 01-07-2015, 11:12 PM
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I have a feeling that neither Her Majesty, nor the Prince of Wales would allow that to happen. It's quite obvious that they want Catherine to be in the background.



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You know, I hadn't previously considered the perspective that it might be Charles pushing for a light schedule for Kate, but it resonates as probably true. The media always writes it up as the Queen wanting to give them time to be normal, but I really do think what happened to Diana badly scared Charles- the mania and total obsession with her. I imagine he cares enough about Catherine to want to protect her from that, and he knows better than most how media works- he knows the only way to avoid it is to give them nothing to talk about.


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Old 01-07-2015, 11:19 PM
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It's certain that William is scared from what happened to his mother and wants to protect Kate from that. I think not much goes on where that is not taken into consideration..to include the fact that she does a lot of recycling of clothing and keeps the profile low.


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Old 01-07-2015, 11:28 PM
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We have compared Kate's numbers to other women who had children in the BRF and her numbers are in the same range as her MIL and Sophie.

There is no master plan because xyz happened only because William is not a fulltime royal and Kate is busy having children.
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:27 PM
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Hopefully baby George will emulate his grandad and great grandparents' work ethic in the future.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:01 AM
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William and Catherine have seniority because of the position that William holds in the royal family.
It has been written, however truthful or not, that Catherine was told she had to curtsey to Beatrice and Eugenie because they are born royal and Catherine is just married to a royal. If that is the case, then Beatrice and Eugenie should be carrying out many more duties as true royals than Catherine is expected to do. It can't be both ways. Catherine can't be more senior but less royal. Plus, neither of the York girls have a child(ren) to care for as Catherine does. Being George's mom should be the highest priority duty she has.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:29 AM
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It has been written, however truthful or not, that Catherine was told she had to curtsey to Beatrice and Eugenie because they are born royal and Catherine is just married to a royal. If that is the case, then Beatrice and Eugenie should be carrying out many more duties as true royals than Catherine is expected to do. It can't be both ways. Catherine can't be more senior but less royal. Plus, neither of the York girls have a child(ren) to care for as Catherine does. Being George's mom should be the highest priority duty she has.
I think you've hit on something important, but maybe not for the reason you said it. If Camilla and Kate have to curtsy to Beatrice and Eugenie because they are born Royal, then Beatrice and Eugenie should be given more Royal duties or at least the charitable work they do should be mentioned in the Court Circular. And if they are not going to be treated as working Royals, the others shouldn't have to curtsy to them. I think The Queen made a big mistake making them HRHs and then changing with the wind and deciding to not give them Royal duties. Having made the decision to make them HRHs, she should have stuck with it for the sake of consistency.

I don't think the fact Beatrice and/or Eugenie don't have children to care for is relevant. I consider that Kate's primary duty was discharged the moment she had given birth to William's heir and does not extend to being the child's primary carer until adulthood.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:35 AM
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It has been written, however truthful or not, that Catherine was told she had to curtsey to Beatrice and Eugenie because they are born royal and Catherine is just married to a royal. If that is the case, then Beatrice and Eugenie should be carrying out many more duties as true royals than Catherine is expected to do. It can't be both ways. Catherine can't be more senior but less royal. Plus, neither of the York girls have a child(ren) to care for as Catherine does. Being George's mom should be the highest priority duty she has.
I think you've hit on something important, but maybe not for the reason you said it. If Camilla and Kate have to curtsy to Beatrice and Eugenie because they are born Royal, then Beatrice and Eugenie should be given more Royal duties or at least the charitable work they do should be mentioned in the Court Circular. And if they are not going to be treated as working Royals, the others shouldn't have to curtsy to them. I think The Queen made a big mistake making them HRHs and then changing with the wind and deciding to not give them Royal duties. Having made the decision to make them HRHs, she should have stuck with it for the sake of consistency.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:54 AM
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It has been written, however truthful or not, that Catherine was told she had to curtsey to Beatrice and Eugenie because they are born royal and Catherine is just married to a royal. If that is the case, then Beatrice and Eugenie should be carrying out many more duties as true royals than Catherine is expected to do. It can't be both ways. Catherine can't be more senior but less royal. Plus, neither of the York girls have a child(ren) to care for as Catherine does. Being George's mom should be the highest priority duty she has.
Catherine was never told to curtsy to Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie. The young royals don't curtsy to one another.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:44 AM
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Catherine was never told to curtsy to Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie. The young royals don't curtsy to one another.

Furthermore, I see the royal traditions like that as more of family tradition, in a way. Has little to do with monarchy as a public institution. After all, royals still curtsy to deposed counterparts.
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:14 AM
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The only people that they cursety or bow to all the time is the Queen and Philip.

We saw Eugenie and Kate greet each other in NY. It was a kiss and a hug.


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Old 02-05-2015, 07:32 AM
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I think you've hit on something important, but maybe not for the reason you said it. If Camilla and Kate have to curtsy to Beatrice and Eugenie because they are born Royal, then Beatrice and Eugenie should be given more Royal duties or at least the charitable work they do should be mentioned in the Court Circular. And if they are not going to be treated as working Royals, the others shouldn't have to curtsy to them. I think The Queen made a big mistake making them HRHs and then changing with the wind and deciding to not give them Royal duties. Having made the decision to make them HRHs, she should have stuck with it for the sake of consistency.

I don't think the fact Beatrice and/or Eugenie don't have children to care for is relevant. I consider that Kate's primary duty was discharged the moment she had given birth to William's heir and does not extend to being the child's primary carer until adulthood.
The Queen never made the decision to make the York girls's HRHs - that is as a result of the Letters Patent of 1917 issued under instruction from George V.


The issue of Camilla and Catherine having to curtsey to the York girls is, in theory, as a result of the private Order of Precedence. In practice, it a'int happening.
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Old 02-05-2015, 11:06 AM
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In my opinion, we focus overly much in the Forums on which of the females should and do curtsey and when. We almost never have this discussion about the men and bowing.
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Old 05-22-2015, 12:09 PM
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It's very obvious that Catherine's primary focus is on her husband and two children. That should be her focus and I don't think anyone should have a problem with that. That's her private life.

Officially, I think her royal role is growing. When Her Majesty gave Catherine the role of representing her in Malta, that gave me the hint that Catherine role as a senior member of the royal family is growing and not decreasing or flatlining. Obviously, some members of the media want their stories and pictures, but I think other veteran royal watchers and correspondents want to see some more growth in her roles. I think that's very fair and fine. It's coming though. There's so much more to come from Catherine. I not just talking about her future roles as Princess of Wales and Queen, but in her current role as Duchess of Cambridge. Right now, she's got a new born baby and a very active one year old ( nearly two) at home that's she's busy with.
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She can be focused on her children while at the same time doing engagements a few times a month.
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Old 05-30-2015, 09:23 PM
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She can be focused on her children while at the same time doing engagements a few times a month.
That's what she has been doing. In her non pregnancy years she does around 100 annual engagements. That's all you can expect from part-time royals like William, Catherine, and Harry. I don't expect those three to change their workload until Charles becomes King. Royal funding is always the key issue and Charles doesn't have the budget for the trio to be full-timers. He's already scrapping by the skin of his teeth to let the trio each do around 100. It probably comes at the expense of some of Camilla's engagements, I can't see Charles the workaholic sacrificing his own (poor Camilla). If Harry marries in the near future I expect the quartet will be demoted to ~75 each. It's the only drawback to having such long-lived royals, you have a full roster with a budget cap.
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Excellent points miss whirley as IMO there are still some who do not realize that Charles must pay for all of the members of his family when they perform royal duties.
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On the plus side to Charles financial responsibility, it's worth noting that he also fully understands the need for new gowns and jewellery, and factors that in.

How lucky are Camilla and Catherine!
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Old 05-30-2015, 10:38 PM
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On the plus side to Charles financial responsibility, it's worth noting that he also fully understands the need for new gowns and jewellery, and factors that in.

How lucky are Camilla and Catherine!
Oh so true! Charles is no Scrooge when it comes down to the fine things and realizes that sometimes the more expensive pieces are also the better quality purchases that will stand the test of time. He's also astute enough to realize that money doesn't flow like water and there's a need to have limits.
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