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Old 01-02-2015, 10:28 AM
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Miliarty appointments come from the Queen, not Kate's concern. I personally think she has enough charities. Quantity doesn't mean quality.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:45 AM
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Miliarty appointments come from the Queen, not Kate's concern. I personally think she has enough charities. Quantity doesn't mean quality.
I also think that if there are more charities to be taken on, they would most likely be umbrella'ed under The Royal Foundation and the three main focuses of that. Young people, sustainable development and conservation, and the Armed Forces.

As things with the Cambridges and Harry are usually planned out well in advance, I wouldn't be surprised if right now, they are already planning the fall of 2015 when Kate returns from maternity leave. Things just don't happen overnight.

I agree with you, Rudolph, that quality isn't reflected in quantity. As an example, the numbers for Harry's engagements is right along with the Cambridges as part time royals but he has definitely made an impact with what he has done. Prince Harry is 3 in the Discovery's list of the most inspirational people and moments of 2014.

The most inspirational people and moments of 2014 voted for in annual poll by the Discovery Channel* | Daily Mail Online

Its more about making a difference than putting on a show and doing things by rote and holding scissors and cutting ribbons.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:57 AM
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I'm just looking forward to see her royal role increase and to see her do some more amazing things and impacting peoples lives. Catherine has done an amazing job so far and she seem to enjoy conducting her official engagements.

She could be doing more and I'm looking forward to what she'll be doing in the months to come.
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:06 AM
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I hope she doesn't do more.

Kate has twice been named on Time Magazine's most influential people in the world list.
She finished second to the Queen as a moral leader for Britons. Kate is doing exactly what I expect of her.
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:09 AM
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I'm curious. Would everyone be "satisfied" if Catherine did many many more things BUT these things would not be accompanied by lots of media coverage and photographs? In other words, if they just showed up on the court circular after the fact. I suspect not. I think many of the complaints have to do with not seeing Catherine out and about. I doubt reports after the fact would satisfy those who are complaining. I strongly suspect the issue is more of "not seeing" rather than not working. Just MHO.
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:16 AM
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I'm curious. Would everyone be "satisfied" if Catherine did many many more things BUT these things would not be accompanied by lots of media coverage and photographs? In other words, if they just showed up on the court circular after the fact. I suspect not. I think many of the complaints have to do with not seeing Catherine out and about. I doubt reports after the fact would satisfy those who are complaining. I strongly suspect the issue is more of "not seeing" rather than not working. Just MHO.
Exactly. It's so superficial. Media want her to carry out more public duties so they can photograph her, put her on the front page, comment on her outfit and hair so they can sell more newspapers or whatever. That's it basically.
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:27 AM
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There are some papers and members of the media who would like to see Catherine more for their own benefit, but there are some people out there who just want to see her royal role grow and for her to gain a few more responsibilities. I thought that is what this thread was about, talking about, Catherine's future duties, roles and responsibilities.
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:27 AM
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I'm curious. Would everyone be "satisfied" if Catherine did many many more things BUT these things would not be accompanied by lots of media coverage and photographs? In other words, if they just showed up on the court circular after the fact. I suspect not. I think many of the complaints have to do with not seeing Catherine out and about. I doubt reports after the fact would satisfy those who are complaining. I strongly suspect the issue is more of "not seeing" rather than not working. Just MHO.
Bingo! Excellent comment that showcases the media's call for increased visits.
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Old 01-02-2015, 12:04 PM
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I'm curious. Would everyone be "satisfied" if Catherine did many many more things BUT these things would not be accompanied by lots of media coverage and photographs? In other words, if they just showed up on the court circular after the fact. I suspect not. I think many of the complaints have to do with not seeing Catherine out and about. I doubt reports after the fact would satisfy those who are complaining. I strongly suspect the issue is more of "not seeing" rather than not working. Just MHO.
You've hit a nail on the head here. Take the situation that you've painted and insert the words Sophie Wessex and we have the clear, concise picture of a royal going about and doing her duties and engagements without much media and public fanfare and there's no complaints at all about it.

The Cambridges are media darlings and it definitely is the case of seeing is believing. No see 'em.. they're not doing.
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Old 01-02-2015, 12:30 PM
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I'm curious. Would everyone be "satisfied" if Catherine did many many more things BUT these things would not be accompanied by lots of media coverage and photographs? In other words, if they just showed up on the court circular after the fact. I suspect not. I think many of the complaints have to do with not seeing Catherine out and about. I doubt reports after the fact would satisfy those who are complaining. I strongly suspect the issue is more of "not seeing" rather than not working. Just MHO.
I would be satisfied with that. Due to my advanced age, I'm not interested in wearing the clothing Kate wears and she surely is not a "moral compass" as I am not all that fond of unmarried people living together. So sue me. I would be happy to read about engagements after they were done. Sure would cut down on the hundreds of speculative posts of "what next" on this Forum.
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Old 01-02-2015, 12:37 PM
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I know that seeing is believing, but right now I wonder what she does all day. She has a nanny to look after George so that’s not it. She has staff to handle the paperwork so that’s not it either. What does she do??

I know I don’t have the right to expect anything since I’m not British, but these people receive a high income (in the form of an apartment but still) to show up, shake hands and say a few words. So as far as I’m concerned she could increase her workload. And the reason I single out Kate is because both William and Harry have a job. Which to me means they need to put all of their royal duties in their spare time. Kate doesn’t. That makes it different for me.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:28 PM
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I know that seeing is believing, but right now I wonder what she does all day. She has a nanny to look after George so that’s not it. She has staff to handle the paperwork so that’s not it either. What does she do??

I know I don’t have the right to expect anything since I’m not British, but these people receive a high income (in the form of an apartment but still) to show up, shake hands and say a few words. So as far as I’m concerned she could increase her workload. And the reason I single out Kate is because both William and Harry have a job. Which to me means they need to put all of their royal duties in their spare time. Kate doesn’t. That makes it different for me.
The fact though is that even if Wills and Kate just sat on the couch, ate pizza and played video games all day and partied all night, their "income" would remain the same. Along with having their own very adequate bank accounts, their income is supplemented by the Prince of Wales.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:31 PM
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This is just a thought that came to me. Now with Andrews scandal, do you think Kate will show up on some unexpected engagements in the coming weeks? We all know she is good at taking up space in the media. PR wise it might be clever to do, but do you think it will happen?
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:44 PM
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Don't even think Catherine can distract from Andrew right now.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:46 PM
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Don't even think Catherine can distract from Andrew right now.
Yeah, me neither. But I wonder if they will try...

Haha, maybe a George engagement :P Neh, don't think they will go there.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:48 PM
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I hope she doesn't do more.

Kate has twice been named on Time Magazine's most influential people in the world list.
She finished second to the Queen as a moral leader for Britons.
Kate is doing exactly what I expect of her.
This made me just lol. Kate a moral leader, wow.
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Old 01-02-2015, 02:01 PM
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This is just a thought that came to me. Now with Andrews scandal, do you think Kate will show up on some unexpected engagements in the coming weeks? We all know she is good at taking up space in the media. PR wise it might be clever to do, but do you think it will happen?
After the press release from BP on the matter, I think it will be business as usual. To do anything to obviously detract from the allegations against Andrew would be to add fuel to the fire.
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After the press release from BP on the matter, I think it will be business as usual. To do anything to obviously detract from the allegations against Andrew would be to add fuel to the fire.
True, true. Was just a thought that came to me :P
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Old 01-02-2015, 02:24 PM
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> Whilst I think she (and William) can do more, I think the current level of public engagements has probably been "sanctioned" by HM and the PoW.

> I don't think this is about her having a baby. I think this is about William and Catherine still being "part-time", and leaving plenty of space for Charles and Camilla. BP and CH probably do not want the limelight to be totally taken away from the next King and Queen by the generation to follow.

> IMO, if HM wanted the Cambridge's to carry out more engagements, they would!

> I also think the DoE does the number of engagements he does not because he has to, but because he wants to. He could happily reduce the level of engagements further substantially, but I just don't think he wants to.
I think you have hit the nail on the head. It's a subtle kind of thing (and I don't think it has anything to do with 'jealousy' btw) but I recall seeing it during that brief period when William was in the Falklands, a sort of hysteria was occurring around Kate, and in one instance, when both couples (Charles and Camilla, William and Kate) were exiting cars at the same time at an arrival, it was Kate's name that was being called out. There was something strange about it all, and potentially embarrassing for Kate, who has never struck me as anyone who is trying to grab the limelight away from her husband or her in-laws.

Actually, I think the BRF (HM) made a conscious decision on how to handle the situation, taking into consideration the personalities and wishes of all concerned. It has to be so. There exists a Prince and Princess of Wales. There exists a direct heir, Charles, who (btw) is incredibly self-effacing and pragmatic all-in-all (imo). At the church on Christmas Day, in the video you can see Charles and Kate chatting amiably as they exit the church and descend the stairs behind the Queen, when Charles suddenly exits the group 'picture' to tend to something to the left (thus enabling William to stand beside Kate). At no time does the camera pull out to show us what Charles is doing over to the side. We are left with a picture of the Queen, with William, Kate and Harry. That's the reality, and it must have it's troubling aspects for the BRF.

Targeting Kate is a waste of energy imo as she has no real power in this. Her first priority imo is her relationship with William. William is the prime focus in that couple, as is Charles in his marriage. William, when it comes to that, is the prime focus when it comes to the two brothers, and even there we see Harry deferring to his brother when in public, and in his royal duty numbers.

While it may seem 'simple' from the outside-looking-in, I think the actual way it is working on the inside (of the BRF) is a bit more pragmatic. I don't think the public perception of Kate's royal working life is as important as the perception of William, for example. That's just pragmatism and the realities of the 'family business'. When Charles becomes king and William steps into the direct heir position, I assume we will see changes, but before then, Kate is really a minor player.

P.S. I've never been of the opinion that Kate is lazy. Far from it. I see her as someone who has worked very hard to create the life she wants for herself. As far as what she actually 'does' with her time away from a formal function, we will never know. She may, in fact, be doing plenty, we just will never know. (I have this fantasy that she possibly works for Charles in some capacity around the arts. Maybe once Kate becomes the wife of the heir it will all be revealed as she takes over the running of Charles' Prince's Trust! )
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I actually enjoy when they do engagements with multiple royals. I remember the one when Wills was in the Falklands and its was Kate, Charles and Camilla and they were doing some sort art project and ironing was in involved and Charles was laughing his head off while trying to do it.




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