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Old 08-12-2014, 03:56 AM
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Why wouldn't a woman want a career? And stay at home moms don't have the help she has.

I have a career. I'd dearly love not to and to spend the rest of my life studying and reading and horseback riding.

Sadly, I was not born with limitless wealth.


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Old 08-12-2014, 04:38 AM
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Why wouldn't a woman want a career? And stay at home moms don't have the help she has.
Because they would rather stay home with the kids, because they're rich and don't need to work, because they would rather travel, because they just don't care about working a 9-5. There are tons of reasons why someone would choose not to have a career.

I had a career, but I decided to give it up when I (recently) had my son. I really thought I would miss working, but I honestly don't. I love being home. On the other hand, one of my friends couldn't wait to get back to work. It's all about personal choice and what works for you.

You're right, the majority of stay-at-home moms don't have all the help Kate does. But, I'm not going to knock her for that. I know quite a few stay-at-home moms that rely on someone to take the kids and help out for a few hours - either family or friends, a babysitter or daycare. One of the moms in my neighborhood, drops her child off at a daycare for a couple of hours each day. It allows her to do housework, run errands, get some me time, etc. Having help doesn't make one any less of a stay-at-home mom. Although, it does make life a bit easier.
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Old 08-12-2014, 04:48 AM
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William and Kate are not in the same situation as most people. Ignore the royal titles, they are wealthy people. Wealthy people can work when they want to work and stay home with the kids if they want. They also have people that clean their house and take care of their kids when they aren't home.

However, we have never seen the nanny take care of George when William or Kate has been present. There was a nanny at the polo match or when Kate was pushing him thru the park. Even the photo shoot day at the Butterfly Exhibit when Nanny Maria was there, it was Kate that was carrying George. Isn't like the olden days when the nanny would take care of the child and then be presented for a hour to its parent like they do on Downton Abbey.


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Old 08-12-2014, 05:10 AM
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All those so called rich women keep themselves busy even if they may not have "regular jobs" .

Kate should have remembered that she doesnt like work when she decided she wanted to be royal , because they dont really have a retirement age , look at the queen and her consort who is working at 90 + , look at charles&Camilla , Sophie&Edward , Anne they're all working even now .
The position of princess of wales has never in the past been occupied by some one who wanted to be a stay at home mum , nor has the the position of queen consort.

The younger generation like Princess Eugiene took a job in NY and Beatrice is working somewhere in London , I just see kate as the only one who keeps herself idle .
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:29 AM
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When did Kate say she didn't like to work? She knows what the job entails much more than a bunch of people on a message board

As has been pointed out in a few threads, comparing Kate to everyone else is pointless.
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:34 AM
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Hmmmh I sure do hope so ...because she hasnt shown any interest in work so far .
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:26 AM
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This constant Cambridge bashing is getting rather wearisome. This used to be a place where there would be relatively sensible conversations about royal events past and future, and ideas of how things may emerge for various royals.

My sense is that sections of TRF now appear to have been taken over by constant carping, passing of value judgements, and assumptions of what work Catherine and William may or may not have done over the last decade, or may do over the next few years. We have seen their housing decisions criticised, the Queen (and even Charles) portrayed as being feeble and powerless in matters relating to the Cambridge's, their privately funded staffing levels criticised, and even the state of their marriage questioned. Even Wiliam's devcision to undertake a privtaly funded course at Cambridge was criticised. The discussion about Catherine needing to find a sense of purpose is quite ridiculous, IMO.

How does it matter to us if the Queen chooses to let her grandson have a house on her estate? How is it a matter of public concern if her grandson (or she) spend £1.5m on refurbishing it? How does it matter to us if the Cambridge couple employ a nanny? Many people I know in the UK employ nannies to look after their children.

What is wrong with the Cambridge couple being allocated Margaret's former home as their London base? It was last refurbished c50 years ago and is only to be expected that substantial repair and updating work will be required. Also, whilst the Cambridge family may spend a fair amount of time at Anmer, they are not abandoning KP. They will continue to use it as their London home, as I am sure they will be there at least 2-3 times a month, if not more.
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:28 AM
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Hmmmh I sure do hope so ...because she hasnt shown any interest in work so far .

And you know this through personal interaction w/the Duchess of course.

What is it w/The Cambridges that seem to bring out the worst in certain people? I just do not get the hatred, jealousy and venom and nor do I understand it.




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Old 08-12-2014, 06:29 AM
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She has a job. She is a mother. She does engagements for the royal family when called upon to do so. She does charity things as well. There is no reason for her to do anything else.


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Old 08-12-2014, 06:35 AM
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Why wouldn't a woman want a career? And stay at home moms don't have the help she has.

Some women see staying home and raising their children as a career. They have no desire to work outside the home and leave it for someone else to raise their children. They make sacrifices and live on one income and don't have all the fancy things or material things that people seem to think they can't live without.

Even the median income and lower income people can have help. Sometimes it's friends and family to help out...no they don't have nannies and live in's but most of them wouldn't want them anyway.


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Old 08-12-2014, 07:34 AM
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I love this thread. It's better than a soap opera (or my work)...
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:37 AM
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Exactly what skills did Diana have when she married Charles?

Camilla raised 2 children and supported her first husband.

As Sophie discovered, trying to have a career while married to a royal got a lot of unwelcome scrutiny by the media of her clients,and allegations that she used her connections to further her clients' interests.
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Im sorry did anyone say Kate needs to have a career? Don't believe I said that, nor did I say Diana had any skills before she married Charles. But unlike Kate she was a teenager.
KateMiddy, I agree the problem is becoming that she has no interests other than William, no ambition to accomplish anything other than marrying William. It is not one thing but a combination of things from over the years. I always hated people calling her Waity Katy, I defended her and her choices and believed it was hard for her to have a real job despite working at the family business. But like I said I am starting to see pattern with her.
I don't know if it was this thread but some people have brought up how they have been attacked for not adoring the Dk and Duchs, if you disagree with opinions then do so, but stop using the "your jealous or hateful" rant. It really adds nothing to the conversation and I don't think it's particularly nice to assume things about people you have the most minimal contact with.
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:03 AM
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Im sorry did anyone say Kate needs to have a career? Don't believe I said that, nor did I say Diana had any skills before she married Charles. But unlike Kate she was a teenager.
KateMiddy, I agree the problem is becoming that she has no interests other than William, no ambition to accomplish anything other than marrying William. It is not one thing but a combination of things from over the years. I always hated people calling her Waity Katy, I defended her and her choices and believed it was hard for her to have a real job despite working at the family business. But like I said I am starting to see pattern with her.
I don't know if it was this thread but some people have brought up how they have been attacked for not adoring the Dk and Duchs, if you disagree with opinions then do so, but stop using the "your jealous or hateful" rant. It really adds nothing to the conversation and I don't think it's particularly nice to assume things about people you have the most minimal contact with.

Exactly , I have always been the first to support kate and admit it must be hard to go to work while paparazzi is following you 24/7 , or that it takes time for a person to get used to being a royal and then after 2 yrs now it's just come down to "leave her alone she is a stay at home mother and it's a honourable profession" excuse me but as much as I agree with that sentiment , marrying Prince William wasn't the best way to ensure she could fulfil her stay at home mum role/ambitions . And since this is what people often bring up while talking about kate this is what ends up being discussed .
There is flexibility to do work if kate wanted to , now and pre marriage but she made her choice , that was fine till she married William but that didnt change one thing about her relationship with work/making a difference or just contributing to society . She is living in TP funded homes and doesnt feel the need to do anything , that is where I draw the line .
Kate isnt a aristocrats wife or a socialite , she is a public servant and she certainly made her choice when she agreed to be with william .
Re: the comment It was a direct personal attack , name calling and all , I'm sure the forum has rules and regulations against such behaviour but I sure hope this is not how things are run here , however it shows who really is being hateful . A very bold statement to make in defense of a person who doesnt give two hoots about her. Ive gone through some of the posts by that member and it seems to me that most of her post borderline on harassment and insults . Thats not a very educated way to conduct a discussion on any topic .
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:22 AM
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I think Kate might get more involved with charities regarding children such as the very ill kids handling with palliative cares... I won' say much more because every word said against them is publicly attacked



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Old 08-12-2014, 08:23 AM
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i think she needs to know the country and the people first, so she needs more events to go.
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I think the conversation has spun out of control. Everyone knows that Catherine worked several jobs before marrying William and she works now. She do a great deal behind the scenes as well. Trouble is it's not really talked about. Some of the royal reporters and correspondents have pointed out that the royal Court Circular and palace press offices haven't published the meetings Catherine conducts on behalf of her charities. We hear about the annual Royal Foundation Forum but everything else she do is glossed over, unless it's a public official engagement. I think it presents a problem as to letting everyone know what she's doing. They published one meeting but haven't done it since.

When I talk about what's next for Catherine, I'm not just talking about her conducting charitable engagements because we know she's in constant contact with them. I mean what's next for her in royal roles. The biggest job she's about to take on is on behalf of the Queen in Malta. We don't know the details of the trip yet but it's a big deal. I'm wondering what will come next? presidencies, patronages, colonelcy's? I think she can take on more roles and she seem to enjoy doing public duties. Her confidence has grown a lot since she first came on the royal scene.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:01 AM
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good post. The direction this thread has taken is one of the reasons why this forum is becoming u pleasant.

constructive criticism is fine but its going way beyond that.

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Old 08-12-2014, 09:42 AM
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Enough....with the personal attacks...the constant comparisons (Kate is Kate...not Camilla, Sophie or Diana) and the repetitive postings.
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I think the conversation has spun out of control. Everyone knows that Catherine worked several jobs before marrying William and she works now. She do a great deal behind the scenes as well. Trouble is it's not really talked about. Some of the royal reporters and correspondents have pointed out that the royal Court Circular and palace press offices haven't published the meetings Catherine conducts on behalf of her charities. We hear about the annual Royal Foundation Forum but everything else she do is glossed over, unless it's a public official engagement. I think it presents a problem as to letting everyone know what she's doing. They published one meeting but haven't done it since.

When I talk about what's next for Catherine, I'm not just talking about her conducting charitable engagements because we know she's in constant contact with them. I mean what's next for her in royal roles. The biggest job she's about to take on is on behalf of the Queen in Malta. We don't know the details of the trip yet but it's a big deal. I'm wondering what will come next? presidencies, patronages, colonelcy's? I think she can take on more roles and she seem to enjoy doing public duties. Her confidence has grown a lot since she first came on the royal scene.

They do this with harry too , a lot of the Invictus games planning isnt posted or given a mention , I think they should start mentioning it at least so people can hear about it , because behind the scenes work is work nevertheless and it shouldn't go unmentioned .
I do hope we see her taking a more active role that's the best way to put an end to criticism , by proving the critics wrong
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Old 08-12-2014, 04:11 PM
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Everyone knows that Catherine worked several jobs before marrying William
What jobs did Catherine do before marrying William? I am aware she worked part-time as an accessories buyer at Jigsaw for about 12 months and I know she was a part of her family's business but I didn't know of any other jobs.

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She do a great deal behind the scenes as well. Trouble is it's not really talked about. Some of the royal reporters and correspondents have pointed out that the royal Court Circular and palace press offices haven't published the meetings Catherine conducts on behalf of her charities. We hear about the annual Royal Foundation Forum but everything else she do is glossed over, unless it's a public official engagement. I think it presents a problem as to letting everyone know what she's doing. They published one meeting but haven't done it since.
You've said this before as if it only applies to Catherine. It applies to all the Royals not just to her. They all do work behind the scenes that doesn't get reported.
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