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Old 01-05-2011, 04:17 PM
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Kate would be trained and groom to be Queen in waiting.
She's not going to be trained for something that's not going to happen for 40+ years probably.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:02 PM
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She's not going to be trained for something that's not going to happen for 40+ years probably.
Charles is currently 62 ears old. In 40 years, he will be 102. I realize that the Queen Mother lived to 102, but there are no guarantees that the Queen or Prince Charles will as well. The Queen will be 100 in 16 years. If she does make it to 100 (God willing) Charles may be in his late 70's by the time he ascends the throne. That is pretty late in life to take on the stress and responsibility that comes with being the Monarch. I also don't imagine that once he ascends the throne that these will be particularly happy years for him. Considering all this, it's possible that William could ascend the throne in 30 years or less.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:48 AM
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Okay 40 years was a bit OTT. But she's stil going to have to wait a long while to be Queen.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:55 AM
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30 years is probably pushing it as well. I have feeling that Charles will mirror Edward VII, a long wait to reign and then a short but memorable reign.

Regardless I think Kate will at first shadow William (similar to past Royal brides) and when she becomes comfortable in role, she will pick up patronages that interest her and begin to do more solo engagements.
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:37 AM
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30 years is probably pushing it as well. I have feeling that Charles will mirror Edward VII, a long wait to reign and then a short but memorable reign.

Regardless I think Kate will at first shadow William (similar to past Royal brides) and when she becomes comfortable in role, she will pick up patronages that interest her and begin to do more solo engagements.
I agree Zonk. If the Queen does live to be 100+, she will be the longest reigning Monarch in history, and Prince Charles will be the oldest monarch ever to ascend the throne. I have doubts as to how memorable his reign will be since I don't think he will reign long enough to grow into the role and make it his own. I feel whatever mark he leaves in history will have been while he was the Prince of Wales, not while he is King Charles. I see him more as an interim King between Queen Elizabeth II and King William, who I think will truly make the role his own and leave his mark in history.

I think it will take a few years, but I have no doubt Kate will find her way within the RF and by the time she is Queen, she will have established herself as a true asset to the RF and the people of the UK. They are a modern couple, and I think they will continue to bring that into their individual and combined interests.
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:29 PM
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The difference between Charles and Edward VII is that Charles has taken very good care of his health whereas Edward was a very heavy smoker (two or three cigars before breakfast and that doesn't include the cigarettes) and a very heavy eater as well.

I can see Charles living to 100 as he has parents who have long lived genes from both sides. Charles reign will be memorable simply because he will change the way the royal family operates I think.

William possibly won't be King for 30+ years and due to his smoking and drinking (not has heavy as Edward VII's certainly but he does do both) I can see him having a shortish reign (although I won't be here to see it thank goodness).
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:46 PM
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The difference between Charles and Edward VII is that Charles has taken very good care of his health whereas Edward was a very heavy smoker (two or three cigars before breakfast and that doesn't include the cigarettes) and a very heavy eater as well.

I can see Charles living to 100 as he has parents who have long lived genes from both sides. Charles reign will be memorable simply because he will change the way the royal family operates I think.

William possibly won't be King for 30+ years and due to his smoking and drinking (not has heavy as Edward VII's certainly but he does do both) I can see him having a shortish reign (although I won't be here to see it thank goodness).
Perhaps, but for all his healthy lifestyle Prince Charles is not aging as well as his parents IMO. It seems to me that in the past few years he looks to have aged 10. I think he carries a lot inside of him that has taken it's toll from his disastrous marriage, the divorce and scandal, Diana's death and profound public backlash. I could be wrong, but I don't think he has moved on completely with his life without significant scars and guilt.

How do you know William smokes? Of course he has "partied" with his buddies, but is there more to his alcohol consumption that I have missed?
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Now we are getting off topic.

If one wishes to discuss Prince Charles as King, and the potential for a long or short reign, etc. please do so here http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...-16252-22.html .

Let's stick to the topic at hand....Duties and Roles for Catherine after the wedding.
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Old 01-10-2011, 10:54 AM
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Causes Catherine could potentially support after the wedding

I thought it would be useful to get members thoughts on the causes they would like Catherine to support after the wedding.
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It's already been mentioned, but I'd like to see Kate do something to support families of solders, especially since PW will be in his position for a few more years.

I'd also like to see her get involved in something pretty quickly - just one or two charities where she can strike out on her own. I don't think she should been seen as needing to "wait" for William to get involved and do some good...

I know that the Queen loved the time she had when she was first married, being out of the spotlight and hidden away, but I think times have changed and as Kate already has somewhat of a reputation for being work-shy, I think it would do her image a lot of good to be seen as jumping in with both feet. Afterall, don't they keep saying that their long courtship has prepared her for life in the RF? I think if she jumped in and took on a couple of causes, even if she stumbled a bit at first, she'd be given more of a pass for that (stumbling early on) than if she "hides" away in Wales and spends the next 3 years just being a housewife. I do think her image (with the majority of the public) matters as, IMO, you do need to have public support to be an effective Queen/head of state/leader.

For my own selfish reasons (babies are cute and it would just be exciting) I also hope they have children right away! That would be the only way I could see her not getting involved with lots of activities right away but not being bashed in the press/public for it.
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I agree with everything in Lady Gudgeon's post above mine!

I think what's most important is that she finds a cause (or 2 to start) that she is really passionate about and puts in the time and energy to support it. There are so many people on this board who think she is a bit of a "slacker", so I'm sure there's the same percentage in the general public. And as much as I can relate to her statement about not caring what the press/public thinks from the engagement interview, she needs to realize she is a public figure now and public opinion does matter.
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It's already been mentioned, but I'd like to see Kate do something to support families of solders, especially since PW will be in his position for a few more years.

I'd also like to see her get involved in something pretty quickly - just one or two charities where she can strike out on her own. I don't think she should been seen as needing to "wait" for William to get involved and do some good...

I know that the Queen loved the time she had when she was first married, being out of the spotlight and hidden away, but I think times have changed and as Kate already has somewhat of a reputation for being work-shy, I think it would do her image a lot of good to be seen as jumping in with both feet. Afterall, don't they keep saying that their long courtship has prepared her for life in the RF? I think if she jumped in and took on a couple of causes, even if she stumbled a bit at first, she'd be given more of a pass for that (stumbling early on) than if she "hides" away in Wales and spends the next 3 years just being a housewife. I do think her image (with the majority of the public) matters as, IMO, you do need to have public support to be an effective Queen/head of state/leader.

For my own selfish reasons (babies are cute and it would just be exciting) I also hope they have children right away! That would be the only way I could see her not getting involved with lots of activities right away but not being bashed in the press/public for it.
I fully agree with you. It would be useful to see Catherine adopt a few causes fairly soon after the wedding and get involved with them on a regular basis.

I would also like to see Catherine get involved in some charities that support inter-faith understanding, and also working with ethnic minorities.
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Just found/read this piece which I thought was an interesting look at life for Kate after she marries into the Royal Family & how it may not be that "fairytale" that everyone thinks it may be but actually a lot of work & a lot of pressure. Interesting anyway & sorry if it has been posted before as I think it's a few week old already so may have been posted a while ago, it was new to me.

Prince William and Kate Middleton Engagement: Hard Work Being Royal - The Daily Beast
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Just found/read this piece which I thought was an interesting look at life for Kate after she marries into the Royal Family & how it may not be that "fairytale" that everyone thinks it may be but actually a lot of work & a lot of pressure. Interesting anyway & sorry if it has been posted before as I think it's a few week old already so may have been posted a while ago, it was new to me.

Prince William and Kate Middleton Engagement: Hard Work Being Royal - The Daily Beast
Very interesting article and I don't remember being posted here before. You can easily get caught up in the glamour side of it, but there's a lot more about that kind of life.
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Dearest Texankitcat,
I agree with you I heard that Prince Charles has a very kind heart. He has aged a lot "Mistake who can descern?. Longfellow said " Tell me not in mournful numbers Life is but an empty dream". Things are not what they seem and "Act that each tomorrow finds us better than today".
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I knew all this, but to see it all laid out together...it sounds pretty miserable. I've been rooting for her all along, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone I know. I wish her and lots of (with a strong relationship, she can do this).
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Kate is already in demand as a royal patron.

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There's still more than three months to go until the wedding, but already charities are vying to have Kate Middleton as their royal patron.
Clarence House says it has received a number of requests from causes keen to have ‘Princess Catherine’ on their official notepaper.
Aides, however, want Kate to ‘find her feet’ before taking on formal royal duties. ‘All sorts of bids have come in, but nothing will be decided before the wedding,’ says a spokesman.
Charities for young people are the favourites to secure Kate’s services


Read more: TV chef rustles up a new girlfriend | Mail Online]

Good to see her popularity this early on. I think she will become Queen in her 50s and really won't have a lot of years as a Princess so now is the time for her to take on various causes.
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Surely Clarence House could get the future title of Catherine correct.
If she turns Queen in her 50's she's got 20 odd years to wait.
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Considering that that the byline is Richard Kay who is to say that this is factually correct article and that Clarence House didn't refer to Kate as Miss Middleton. Unless, they know something we don't?
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I'm confused Zonk, I meant that it says "Clarence House says it has received a number of requests from causes keen to have ‘Princess Catherine’ on their official notepaper"

Surely Clarence House, knows she won't be Princess Catherine?
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