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Old 01-01-2011, 03:31 AM
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I agree that to compare her to Mary and the rest doesn't work that is why I stick to just her.

As for her "career choices" sorry but being in your 20s doesn't excuse the lack of employment. As for the planting of the media I don't think they considered that an issue. After all while the media followed her; William and her stoked it to a degree, by inviting her to certain events like his garter ceremony and his graduations from the military. This created an increase in attention towards her they could have avoided by not having her there. Previous royal girlfriend never went to such events.

Her former employer at Jigsaw said that she quit because she had a "schedule she couldn't dictate." A clear reference to her relationship with William. She had options to get a job but they were not flexible with her relationship. No big surprise there for any working person. We schedule are private lives around our working lives, not the other way around. I agree her degree is non-specific. Therefore I criticize her lack of choices in general. I feel like her main goal in life was to make her relationship work and I wish she would just admit it. I would certainly respect her more for her honesty.

Also I criticize William as well. He was the one who dictated the schedule so what does that say about him? He also preferred a person who gave her "whole" life to him. It almost seems a little codependent. Then again they like it so...
Out of curiosity, do you attend the graduations and other important life events of your significant other? And how would you feel about the relationship if you were barred from doing so?

I think Prince William and Ms. Middleton did an admirable job of balancing their relationship with the obligations of his role, and she managed to gracefully attend events as his girlfriend without ever insinuating that she expected anything more. This is my first post here, and I felt compelled to post because looking back on how that woman has handled a role that was impossible from the beginning... I just don't see anything about her actions that merits criticism. It all feels manufactured.

She's not a normal twenty-something, and she never would have been allowed to be while she was dating Prince William. She either needed to accept that her relationship would be an impediment to her career or never enter the relationship at all.
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:37 AM
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Welcome to the Forum, HRHHermoine. One thing that I really liked about the interview that William and Kate did was that it showed, at least to me, how well things have been handled by these two over the years. Catherne shows a lack of defensiveness that's refreshing.

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This is my first post here, and I felt compelled to post because looking back on how that woman has handled a role that was impossible from the beginning... I just don't see anything about her actions that merits criticism. It all feels manufactured.
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:57 AM
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Welcome to the Forum, HRHHermoine. One thing that I really liked about the interview that William and Kate did was that it showed, at least to me, how well things have been handled by these two over the years. Catherne shows a lack of defensiveness that's refreshing.
I agree completely. They seem to accept that both press adoration and press criticism will be a part of their lives no matter what they do and not lose too much sleep over it. I admire that.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:06 AM
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Also I criticize William as well. He was the one who dictated the schedule so what does that say about him? He also preferred a person who gave her "whole" life to him. It almost seems a little codependent. Then again they like it so...
From what William and Kate said in their interview, I suspect that for at least the last three years they have had an "understanding". In light of that, and bearing in mind that her primary role from now on and for the rest of her life will be to support her husband, I think it was only natural that she would give her whole life to him. She didn't already have an independent career, and as soon as the likelihood that they would marry became a serious prospect, there was no point in her seeking to establish one. I don't think it's a question of codependence, just the reality of being the likely future wife of the future king.
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Old 01-01-2011, 08:42 AM
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You know what role/duty I'd quite like to see her do after they've got married? Handing out the trophies at Wimbledon. The Duchess of Kent used to do it for years & years but then she "retired" a few years ago & her husband the Duke of Kent took over her role as well as doing what he did with presenting the men's trophy.

I've heard that they like the role to stay within the Kent family but since no-one other than the Duke of Kent seems to have taken over the roles, I think it could be a good idea to give it to Kate as a sort of starter early role after the wedding. It's relatively straightforward & not overly taxing in terms of nerve-inducing etc. Kate herself seems to like tennis & plays it so I think she'd actually enjoy the role too (which not many in the Royal Family seem to when it comes to tennis/Wimbledon ).

I've always missed the Duchess of Kent handing out the Ladies trophy & think this could be a good opportunity to start Kate off, nothing too overwhelming plus she could do it as a solo job & start off "easy" on her own so to speak.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:47 AM
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You know what role/duty I'd quite like to see her do after they've got married? Handing out the trophies at Wimbledon. The Duchess of Kent used to do it for years & years but then she "retired" a few years ago & her husband the Duke of Kent took over her role as well as doing what he did with presenting the men's trophy.

I've heard that they like the role to stay within the Kent family but since no-one other than the Duke of Kent seems to have taken over the roles, I think it could be a good idea to give it to Kate as a sort of starter early role after the wedding. It's relatively straightforward & not overly taxing in terms of nerve-inducing etc. Kate herself seems to like tennis & plays it so I think she'd actually enjoy the role too (which not many in the Royal Family seem to when it comes to tennis/Wimbledon ).

I've always missed the Duchess of Kent handing out the Ladies trophy & think this could be a good opportunity to start Kate off, nothing too overwhelming plus she could do it as a solo job & start off "easy" on her own so to speak.
That's a great idea. I believe she attended Wimbledom a couple years ago, so there's defintly a interest there.

Do you think she will have duties alone early on, or only ones attended by William?
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:52 AM
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In regards to Wimbeldon, the Duke of Kent is President of the All England Lawn and Tennis and Croquet Club so unless he gives up that patronage (which is certainly possible as he is 68) and William becomes President. I don't think you will see Catherine presenting. Maybe attending but that is about it.
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Old 01-01-2011, 01:09 PM
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Yeah, I don't see her actually being given that role (unless/until the Duke of Kent does retire/hand on his role as President of All England Club) but I do think if he were willing to offer it to her it would be a good one for her to have, handing out the Ladies trophies & what have you. Just think it'd be a good starter for her in terms of introducing her lightly to Royal Duties & especially ones where she may be on her own.

Personally I don't see her doing any Royal Duties on her own for quite a while (especially if they start having children fairly soon after the wedding). I reckon she'll essentially follow William around at his various Duties, accompany him at functions & what have you & slowly, ever so slowly, increase the number they do together & eventually find ones she can do on her own & for her own interests.
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Someone stated earlier that maybe something to do with RAF families/wives or such and I'd like to see something like that to start with..... to me, her first official duty on her own will be very exciting ! :)
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Yes, it will be like a breath of fresh air - whatever she 'll do.
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:12 PM
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Out of curiosity, do you attend the graduations and other important life events of your significant other? And how would you feel about the relationship if you were barred from doing so?

I think Prince William and Ms. Middleton did an admirable job of balancing their relationship with the obligations of his role, and she managed to gracefully attend events as his girlfriend without ever insinuating that she expected anything more. This is my first post here, and I felt compelled to post because looking back on how that woman has handled a role that was impossible from the beginning... I just don't see anything about her actions that merits criticism. It all feels manufactured.

She's not a normal twenty-something, and she never would have been allowed to be while she was dating Prince William. She either needed to accept that her relationship would be an impediment to her career or never enter the relationship at all.
I attend the significant events when I can, for the record. Not that this has anything to do with me As for William and Kate..If you are going to complain that the press is following you and file complaints against them then you shouldn't make your relationship so public. Several times they got the law firm of Harbottle & Lewis to complain to the media about following her. The more you lead the press on, by allowing her to attend events other royal girlfriends never attended, the more the press says they can nose in your business.

I also think that she expected something from William if she dated him for 7 years. In the interview for their engagement she even mentions that they had talked about marriage several times. While I acknowledge that is reasonable in relationship I don't think one gets involved with someone without expecting something. Even if that something is love or companionship. We all want something out of a relationship, that is why we are in them.

I am not sure what you mean about manufacturing? Are saying that my criticism of her is manufactured? That is your choice to disagree with me but I think that things could have been handled differently. That is not a "manufactured" statement anymore than your defense of her is. There are those who think she was great and those who think she could have done things differently, nothing wrong with that.
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Out of curiosity, do you attend the graduations and other important life events of your significant other? And how would you feel about the relationship if you were barred from doing so?

I think Prince William and Ms. Middleton did an admirable job of balancing their relationship with the obligations of his role, and she managed to gracefully attend events as his girlfriend without ever insinuating that she expected anything more. This is my first post here, and I felt compelled to post because looking back on how that woman has handled a role that was impossible from the beginning... I just don't see anything about her actions that merits criticism. It all feels manufactured.

She's not a normal twenty-something, and she never would have been allowed to be while she was dating Prince William. She either needed to accept that her relationship would be an impediment to her career or never enter the relationship at all.
Welcome HRHHermoine! Great post! I completely agree with you about how Kate has handled herself throughout this long relationship.

I'm not sure that I agree that the criticism of her is manufactured, but I do think that it is rather petty at times. To some, she can't do anything right simply because they do not like her for their own reasons, or because they have a tainted point of view based on what the media has focused on. No matter the reason I don't see it changing. Her critics will always hold her to impossibly high expectations and standards.
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Not sure why some people dislike Kate, IMHO she has yet to do anything to make dislike OR like her..... personally I like her style and so far that's all I've got to judge her on.... Just my opinion
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:09 PM
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Not sure why some people dislike Kate, IMHO she has yet to do anything to make dislike OR like her..... personally I like her style and so far that's all I've got to judge her on.... Just my opinion
That is why people judge her on her work because there was nothing either in regards to her job or anywhere else. as for her style it seems more stylist than Kate but it is good sense of style.

I do think Kate can improve the way the public views her but I don't see her changing anytime soon. It seems like she plans on just being an Air Force wife. I hope that is not the case. If she plans on being an active member of the royal family then my view of her will improve.
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I do think Kate can improve the way the public views her but I don't see her changing anytime soon. It seems like she plans on just being an Air Force wife. I hope that is not the case. If she plans on being an active member of the royal family then my view of her will improve.
I do hope that they both take until 2013 when William gets done with his SAR duties to keep a lower profile with the occasional appearances such as Trooping the Color, Ascot and such. I think I read where William along with his SAR duties, put in 29 (or about) engagements and Kate could accompany him to those perhaps. They've got all the time in the world to work up to full scale royal duties. As long as they have the chance, I'd advise them to enjoy the first years of marriage as much as they can and perhaps start a family if that's what they wish to do.
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I do hope that they both take until 2013 when William gets done with his SAR duties to keep a lower profile with the occasional appearances such as Trooping the Color, Ascot and such. I think I read where William along with his SAR duties, put in 29 (or about) engagements and Kate could accompany him to those perhaps. They've got all the time in the world to work up to full scale royal duties. As long as they have the chance, I'd advise them to enjoy the first years of marriage as much as they can and perhaps start a family if that's what they wish to do.
William's total for official duties in 2010 was 73. He did 2 overseas trips and these are where he did a large part of his official engagements as there are 3 or 4 engagements per day.
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William's total for official duties in 2010 was 73. He did 2 overseas trips and these are where he did a large part of his official engagements as there are 3 or 4 engagements per day.
I was really off the mark there wasn't I? That number is pretty impressive for a man that is full time duties with SAR. With Kate accompanying him on these various engagements, I think it would be very doable for them as far as putting in their royal duties together yet also having time to themselves in Wales.
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I was really off the mark there wasn't I? That number is pretty impressive for a man that is full time duties with SAR. With Kate accompanying him on these various engagements, I think it would be very doable for them as far as putting in their royal duties together yet also having time to themselves in Wales.
You may not have just pulled that number out of thin air! I think I remember reading that he'd increased his number of official duties by something like 29 in 2010 from his 2009 total, so he's done 29 more in 2010 than he did in 2009 to have a total in 2010 of 73.

At least I think I remember reading that, so perhaps you got the 29 from there
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You may not have just pulled that number out of thin air! I think I remember reading that he'd increased his number of official duties by something like 29 in 2010 from his 2009 total, so he's done 29 more in 2010 than he did in 2009 to have a total in 2010 of 73.

At least I think I remember reading that, so perhaps you got the 29 from there
That is exactly where I did see it. Thanks! Usually when it comes to something with numbers I usually go back and check for reliability and facts but was in a rush at that time. Now I really have to say that between full time SAR duties and that workload of duties (If he stays the same or increases in 2011), I really do hope that the newlyweds do take time and just enjoy married life for a while.
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