Duchess of Cambridge Current Events 3: 5 January 2013 -

[cinrit]

Originally Posted by AfricanAUSSIE

Catherine Wales...I don't think she gets to have that name, does she? I noticed that their court petition in France read Mrs. Katherine Middleton and Mr. William Mountbatten-Wales...weird.

Technically, her last name (when needed) would be Mountbatten-Windsor. If she is able to retain her last name, though, in combination with her married name (as we can in the U.S.), she would be Mrs. Catherine Middleton Mountbatten-Windsor. When in combination with her husband, she would be as above. (I'm pretty sure.) But didn't she use the last name "Cambridge" several months ago in a small shop in Anglesey?

[Dman]

Originally Posted by AfricanAUSSIE

I once watched footage of William attending a film premiere where I heard him say to the crowd, shouting for his autograph, that he was sorry but "no autographs". Most people were OK with that but I laughed when a dude who had his hand outstretched with pen and paper, seemed to be frozen with a very offended expression on his face. He was no kid, probably in his 30s but clearly the news was a shock to him.

Yeah, the royals only do signatures on official and other special occasions.

[miche]

Mountbatten-Wales? I thought Charles and descendants last name would remain Windsor and the Queen others children would be Mountbatten-Windsor?

[Frelinghighness]

yes, I did too, Ive never heard of the Wales last name.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by AdmirerUS

Catherine Wales is what she called herself inside the Surf Shop in Wales. The poor clerk did not recognize her at all - and asked her for her name for the sales ticket. That was her reply.

IIRC, she told the clerk her name was Mrs. Cambridge. Must have made her feel good that there are some places she can go where she's not fawned all over and made a fuss of.

[HereditaryPrincess]

Originally Posted by miche

Mountbatten-Wales? I thought Charles and descendants last name would remain Windsor and the Queen others children would be Mountbatten-Windsor?

It's my understanding that the Queen's children/grandchildren use the surname Mountbatten- Windsor when a surname is needed (like school or work etc), but sometimes they use their titles as their surnames, for example, when he was working in showbiz, Prince Edward used the name 'Edward Wessex.' I've never heard of the surname 'Mountbatten- Wales' before, it sounds quite nice, though.

Zara and Peter Philips are the Queen's only grandchildren who don't hold the surname Mountbatten- Windsor because their father's surname is different (Philips), and we usually use our father's surname as our surname.

[HRHHermione]

Originally Posted by cinrit

Technically, her last name (when needed) would be Mountbatten-Wales. If she is able to retain her last name, though, in combination with her married name (as we can in the U.S.), she would be Mrs. Catherine Middleton Mountbatten-Wales. When in combination with her husband, she would be as above. (I'm pretty sure.) But didn't she use the last name "Cambridge" several months ago in a small shop in Anglesey?

This is incorrect. Wales does not appear in her name at all, as it is not the territorial designation associated with her husband's ducal title. If William had no title, his last name as a male line descendant of Elizabeth and Phillip would be Mountbatten-Windsor.

However, as he was given a dukedom on his wedding day, the Cambridges can use that as a last name where one is necessary.

Prince William used Wales as his last name before he became Duke of Cambridge, though for all intents and purposes, he has no legal last name.

[hkittybaby]

Originally Posted by AdmirerUS

Catherine Wales is what she called herself inside the Surf Shop in Wales. The poor clerk did not recognize her at all - and asked her for her name for the sales ticket. That was her reply.

No! you are wrong

She called herself Mrs Cambridge inside the Surf Shop in Wales, not Catherine Wales.

[AdmirerUS]

Originally Posted by hkittybaby

No! you are wrong

She called herself Mrs Cambridge inside the Surf Shop in Wales, not Catherine Wales.

Yes - YOu are right and I made an edit to fix it. I added the link to the article if anyone wants to read it.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by AfricanAUSSIE

Catherine Wales...I don't think she gets to have that name, does she? I noticed that their court petition in France read Mrs. Katherine Middleton and Mr. William Mountbatten-Wales...weird.

Actually it read, William Arthur Philip Louis Mountbatten-Windsor and Catherine Elizabeth Middleton. No Wales in sight.

Originally Posted by cinrit

Technically, her last name (when needed) would be Mountbatten-Wales.

When needed her surname is Mounbatten-Windsor.

[Dman]

I think it may take some time for everyone to catch on that William is no longer Prince William of Wales because he now have his own Dukedom. Catherine is now Mrs. Cambridge not Mrs. Catherine Wales.

True, Catherine is now officially a Windsor.

[royalistbert]

Originally Posted by Dman

I think it may take some time for everyone to catch on that William is no longer Prince William of Wales because he now have his own Dukedom. Catherine is now Mrs. Cambridge not Mrs. Catherine Wales.

True, Catherine is now officially a Windsor.

She is not Mrs she is a HRH. Prince William is still Prince William of Wales is just he has a dukedom attached.

[Dman]

Originally Posted by royalistbert

She is not Mrs she is a HRH. Prince William is still Prince William of Wales is just he has a dukedom attached.

I know she's an HRH but I'm just pointing out that she the Mrs Cambridge now. William stopped being Prince William of Wales on April 29th 2011. His full title is now 'His Royal Highness Prince William Arthur Philip Louis, Duke of Cambridge, Earl of Strathearn, Baron Carrickfergus.'

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by royalistbert

Prince William is still Prince William of Wales is just he has a dukedom attached.

He is, in the fact he's the son of the Prince of Wales, but he is not Prince William of Wales anymore he is The Duke of Cambridge. Wales is nowhere in his title since he married nor will it be unless he becomes Prince of Wales.

[Dman]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

He is, in the fact he's the son of the Prince of Wales, but he is not Prince William of Wales anymore he is The Duke of Cambridge. Wales is nowhere in his title since he married nor will it be unless he becomes Prince of Wales.

That's why I said we just have to get used to his Dukedom.

[Mermaid1962]

It's the same in Quebec. Women keep their original surnames.

Originally Posted by Dman

I think there was a reason why the French used their maiden names. William is no longer Prince William of Wales. Now it's TRH The Duke & Duchess of Cambridge.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Dman

That's why I said we just have to get used to his Dukedom.

I'm not sure why you quoted my post as I never said otherwise. Catherine has never been a "Wales" so it's hard to understand the misunderstanding sometimes.

[Dman]

I was just agreeing with you, Lumutqueen.

[cinrit]

Originally Posted by miche

Mountbatten-Wales? I thought Charles and descendants last name would remain Windsor and the Queen others children would be Mountbatten-Windsor?

You're right ... I don't know how I did that. It's Mountbatten-Windsor, not Mountbatten-Wales. I should pay better attention to what my fingers are doing if they're not conveying what my mind is thinking! I've edited my post. Thanks for the heads-up.

[wbenson]

The thing to be remembered about names is that, while it's hard to remember in the era where everybody has lots of official documents, under common law systems your name is generally whatever you call yourself so long as you do it without the intent to defraud people. She's free to use Cambridge or Wales or Mountbatten-Windsor or Windsor or Sparklepuff if she pleases.