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01-30-2013, 06:51 PM
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I never understand why people feel the need to criticize what people. No she doesn't have the same kind of job the average people do, but a job is anything that requires some amount of work. She meets with her charities, visits them privately, and organizes her schedule while taking care of whatever home needs he has and flying or driving back and forth to Wales and London and whatever else her patronages are. I think people need to back off and frankly mind their own business besides HG comes and goes. One day she may feel fine an the next bad. I don't think it's our business to worry about what she does on her downtime or whether what she does is a real job by our standards.
She's coming back sometime in February and in the meantime is organizing her schedule and meeting with her charities.
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01-30-2013, 06:59 PM
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Is it just me, or does one assume that the only people who could accurately guage how severe her illness is or was, would be Catherine and her doctors? Unless of course, I missed something. Has her medical records been released to the general public. No need for a true discussion that will throw the thread off topic but hopefully, the masses get my point.
Also, correct me if I am wrong but there have been 3 to 5 (maybe 10 max) sightings of Catherine since her illness was announced. That hardly qualifies as shopping all the time and just lazing around and not doing any duties.
But I guess if one is looking for faults than one will find fault.
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01-30-2013, 07:02 PM
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But I guess if one is looking for faults than one will find fault.
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Exactly. And there are some who really, really seem to enjoy looking for fault.
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01-30-2013, 07:07 PM
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She never stays for more than 1 hour when she visits a charity. And since when HG is an excuse for women to stop working? Pregnant women do not get 3 months off work for HG, (yes in February when she´s back it will be 3 months), and you can hardly call what she does work. So make all the excuses you want for her. I have the right to believe the palace has made a statement that she visits her charities in "private" because all this situation is getting a bit ridiculous and the criticism is increasing. Not twits about her private visits but a lot on her shoppings.
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I'd say HG is more than just an "excuse" for a woman to stop working. It's a condition that has serious consequences if not treated. And yes, many women have taken time off work due to HG. Some have even had to take the entire pregnancy off due to it.
I know times may vary depending on the event, but I was under the impression that royals usually spend about 1.5-2 hours at each engagement. Whatever the case, she and her doctor obviously felt that she wasn't physically ready to take on public duties until February.
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Also, correct me if I am wrong but there have been 3 to 5 (maybe 10 max) sightings of Catherine since her illness was announced. That hardly qualifies as shopping all the time and just lazing around and not doing any duties.
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Yep, I pointed that out too. There haven't been many sightings of her until recently.
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01-30-2013, 07:13 PM
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I'd say HG is more than just an "excuse" for a woman to stop working. It's a condition that has serious consequences if not treated. And yes, many women have taken time off work due to HG. Some have even had to take the entire pregnancy off due to it.
I know times may vary depending on the event, but I was under the impression that royals usually spend about 1.5-2 hours at each engagement. Whatever the case, she and her doctor obviously felt that she wasn't physically ready to take on public duties until February.
Yep, I pointed that out too. There haven't been many sightings of her until recently.
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I think Charles and Camilla did a visit to the Tube today in support of the 150 Anniversary of the transit system, I think the event was about an hour. So...Catherine isn't starting something new.
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01-30-2013, 07:20 PM
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I think we also have to remember that members of the royal family do a great deal of things behind the scenes. They are always busy with meetings and with their aides arranging their official diaries. So just because you may not see them on public engagements does not mean they are just laying about and being lazy.
I'm also sure more charity announcements will be coming. Also, the Cambridges work around their military life.
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01-30-2013, 07:35 PM
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^That's true.
Thanks for the info, Zonk.
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01-30-2013, 08:15 PM
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She was spotted this weekend and this at a gas station, at the gap looking for maternity pants, a sandwich shop and a drugstore. And people are acting like she's been out and about 24/7 'window' shopping at the mall
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01-30-2013, 09:27 PM
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We all know that there are some people who are constantly on the alert for anything they can criticize regarding the Duchess of Cambridge. It is really nothing new, in fact .... it is very, very, very old.!
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01-30-2013, 09:30 PM
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...And since when HG is an excuse for women to stop working?
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I hope you never have HG that affects you as it does many women around the world. Also, has "criticism" been increasing? What sources can you cite of criticism?
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01-30-2013, 09:58 PM
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3 months? It's been like 8 weeks since she announce her pregnancy
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01-30-2013, 10:43 PM
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I hope you never have HG that affects you as it does many women around the world. Also, has "criticism" been increasing? What sources can you cite of criticism?
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I always found the theory of HG very suspicious for a number of reason, may I?
What if you bother to read the British press and comments by the people as I do and check for yourself that the comments at not at all what they used to be? Why do I always have to provide for links? I certainly do not find a dose of reality in this forum.
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01-30-2013, 10:50 PM
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I always found the theory of HG very suspicious for a number of reason, may I?
What if you bother to read the British press and comments by the people as I do and check for yourself that the comments at not at all what they used to be? Why do I always have to provide for links? I certainly do not find a dose of reality in this forum.
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If you're relying on forums commentary to get an accurate view of the public perception, you're playing a fool's game. It's fairly well known that people are much more likely to take the time to comment on news sites when they have something negative to say. Also, as someone who does some work for a news site- I believe something like 4% of the people who read the stories take the time to comment.
And you can doubt all you want that she's ill, but the fact is that she was forced into the hospital by extreme nausea, and had to announce her pregnancy much earlier than she would have liked. If you don't at least understand why the Duke and Duchess would have avoided the hospital had it been at all possible, I don't know what to tell you.
Although I would suggest... it's unhealthy to constantly dwell on negative thoughts and feelings about others.
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01-30-2013, 11:02 PM
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Just a thought, maybe she, William, her doctors & the royal family wants to wait until she is 4 months pregnant before she takes on more duties.
Maybe it's a high risk pregnancy. Maybe in addition to HG, she has diabetes or high blood pressure. Maybe she previously miscarried during the early weeks.
The press release stated she had HG but she could have other undisclosed problems with the pregnancy/her health.
She isn't under house arrest.
She's pregnant. She needs maternity clothes. She still needs to eat & put gas in her car. She is performing normal routine chores.
Her doctors might want her to limit her activities and the easiest way is to limit her royal duties.
I think it's best to leave Catherine alone and stop criticizing her.
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01-30-2013, 11:07 PM
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Enough with the speculative discussion regarding Catherine's health, if you have that her health was not as serious as reported, than yes you need to provide proof to support your statements. Otherwise you are speculating.
If that's a problem, please contact me via Private Message. Any and all posts that disregard my posts, will be deleted without notice.
Likewise, any discussion regarding the Cambridge pregnancy should be discussed in the appropriate thread, The Duchess of Cambridge is pregnant! .
Let's try to stay on topic...Catherine's Charities and Patronages.
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01-31-2013, 09:10 AM
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We expect an announcement on new patronages soon but royal sources say her first engagements will be existing charities.
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I'm not expecting to see much of William at all because he wants to up his flying hours. Think Kate will be back to around that.
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01-31-2013, 03:02 PM
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Catherine is right now doing the only job she is "required" to do and that is to produce an heir. I actually hope she limits her outside work during these early years and really focuses on raising children. She has the luxury of doing so, and I hope she takes advantage of it. (Millions of women around the world do so without an eyebrow raised.) I applaud the royals in general for taking on charitable work, but I think the notion of using such involvement as a yardstick for worthiness, work ethic and/or general suitability to be royal is misplaced.
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01-31-2013, 03:22 PM
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She's not required to produce an heir, she doesn't sign a contract to that affect. It is 'hoped for' that they will produce a child and Catherine will carry the future heir. Takes two to tango remember.
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I have unknowingly been working alongside someone who suffered from HG over Christmas, she was in hospital for longer than Catherine and yet came straight back to work and back to university the day after she was discharged. Yes she's suffering/suffered from HG, and she's supposedly not needed. But come on, the minute Henry returns from Afghanistan he's called straight back to "covering" for his brother and sister in law.
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01-31-2013, 03:27 PM
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[QUOTE=Lumutqueen;1511802]...the minute Henry returns from Afghanistan he's called straight back to "covering" for his brother and sister in law.[/QUOTE] I don't understand this bit - have I missed an announcement, or something?
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01-31-2013, 03:34 PM
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Does Britain have a Freedom of Information Act? If so The Daily Mail could put in a request for all of her time sheets to see how much she's doing....
P.S. That's a joke. Don't flip out.
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