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Old 07-08-2015, 05:04 PM
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Being (originally) from the south and being a military family our kids were raised to say yes ma'am and yes sir. I'm almost 50 and still do it. My grandkids are being raised in a similar way.

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Old 07-08-2015, 05:16 PM
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Both Philip and Charles refer to themselves as Pa as their dad nickname so that they use grandpa make sense for the next generation. If Kate used mum(my) and dad(dy), Carole and Mike are probably grandmum granddad.


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Old 07-08-2015, 05:29 PM
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Being (originally) from the south and being a military family our kids were raised to say yes ma'am and yes sir. I'm almost 50 and still do it. My grandkids are being raised in a similar way.

Nothing wrong with manners.


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Of course there's nothing wrong with it - unless it makes someone feel uncomfortable. For some people, being called "ma'am" or "sir" makes them feel old. I still use it generally, but if someone asks me to stop, I stop.

I think that's general point some are trying to make: children are usually taught certain manners with regard to what to call adults, but if a specific adult expresses a different preference, it's best to go with that. Based on what Camilla said, it sounds like she'd like to be called "Gaga" by William's children (which seems like a logical choice). However, as things can sometimes be a bit complex with stepparents, I'm sure it's something she would probably leave up to William. I doubt it will matter much to George and Charlotte, though, as I'm sure they'll just regard Camilla as a normal part of their lives, no matter what they call her.
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:39 PM
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Of course there's nothing wrong with it - unless it makes someone feel uncomfortable. For some people, being called "ma'am" or "sir" makes them feel old. I still use it generally, but if someone asks me to stop, I stop.

I think that's general point some are trying to make: children are usually taught certain manners with regard to what to call adults, but if a specific adult expresses a different preference, it's best to go with that. Based on what Camilla said, it sounds like she'd like to be called "Gaga" by William's children (which seems like a logical choice). However, as things can sometimes be a bit complex with stepparents, I'm sure it's something she would probably leave up to William. I doubt it will matter much to George and Charlotte, though, as I'm sure they'll just regard Camilla as a normal part of their lives, no matter what they call her.
Someone once encouraged me to be okay with ma'am as that is the other person's way of showing their respect for me.
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:40 PM
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Being (originally) from the south and being a military family our kids were raised to say yes ma'am and yes sir. I'm almost 50 and still do it. My grandkids are being raised in a similar way.

Nothing wrong with manners.


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That's how I was brought up too, and it was a huge culture shock when I was informed that my preschoolers were to call me by my first name, without a Miss' attached to it. I think there always needs to be a distinction between children and adults, and just calling an adult by first name only implies a familiarity that may not be there.


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Old 07-08-2015, 06:00 PM
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This conversation amuses me alot. It feels so foreign/exotic to me. A whole different culture. He almost everyone is speaked to by their first name. Like, if you get presented to your boss he says "Peter Svensson" and after that you call him Peter. It has nothing to do with "bad manners". Just that it's not a thing that is included in what is considered "manners" here. My aunt and family lived in the UK for 2 years and she always felt really wierd and distanced from the kids when they called her Mrs. **...
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:06 PM
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That's how I was brought up too, and it was a huge culture shock when I was informed that my preschoolers were to call me by my first name, without a Miss' attached to it. I think there always needs to be a distinction between children and adults, and just calling an adult by first name only implies a familiarity that may not be there.


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How weird. Here in my part of the midwest (and in the south where most of my grandkids are) teachers are not called by a given name, not even in high school....even college (here) you call instructors Mr/Mrs or Professor/Dr unless invited to use their given name.

I have a BIL who is a professor at a large university (another state in the midwest) I'll have to ask him how it is there. I do have a niece by marriage in that same state who teaches in elementary school...they call her Mrs. surname.


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Old 07-08-2015, 09:29 PM
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How weird. Here in my part of the midwest (and in the south where most of my grandkids are) teachers are not called by a given name, not even in high school....even college (here) you call instructors Mr/Mrs or Professor/Dr unless invited to use their given name.

I have a BIL who is a professor at a large university (another state in the midwest) I'll have to ask him how it is there. I do have a niece by marriage in that same state who teaches in elementary school...they call her Mrs. surname.


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Same is true here on the West Coast. Teachers are always called Mr./Mrs./Ms. Surname.

I went to a small college in Virginia so most of our professors had their PhDs and were generally called Dr. Surname. The adjunct professors would usually correct us if they didn't have their PhDs yet and we'd default to Professor Surname.

I think that's just generally how it ia through much of the US. Granted, things are much more informal nowadays than 25 years ago when I was in high school and college but most kids still seem to use an honorific and the person's surname unless that person is a close, family friend or has given them permission to use a first name.
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:33 PM
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Calling teachers by first names is common in some Montessori schools and private schools in the U.S.

It's not uncommon in the northeast.


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Old 07-08-2015, 09:43 PM
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Although this is an interesting discussion, it's time to get back on topic. If you would like to continue this discussion, you can do so in the general discussion forum. Any further off-topic posts in this thread will be deleted.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:18 AM
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I do not think George called the Queen 'granny'. If he said 'granny' it was for Carole.

The Queen's grandchildren call the Queen 'granny'. They called the Queen Mother 'gan-gan'.

George calls the Queens whatever Savannah called her that was later picked up by Isla, then George and then Mia.

The Queen is probably 'gan-gan' to her great-grandchildren.

We will have to wait to see what George calls Camilla but I doubt he will call her the same thing as her own grandchildren. Camilla's grandchildren probably call Charles 'sir'.
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:16 AM
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From all of the photos that we've seen of Maria this is the first time I've seen one where she is in her Norland uniform. Typically she wears comfortable slacks/skirts and blouses. She earned the privilege to wear that uniform and if that is what she wants to wear for "formal occasions" then IMO it is her right.

I'm positive that royal nannies have been present at BRF royal christenings at BP just that they're out of sight, this is just one of the few times we've seen one.

I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, thinking Pinterest, but there is a lovely portrait picture out there of Sister Helen Rowe, who was one of the then Princess Elizabeth's Midwives and I also think Nursery Nurse, but not so certain on that one, holding Prince Charles at his Christening. I was so shocked seeing it because AFAIK, it's the only time before George's that a Nanny or Nurse was actually seen as a part of a Royal Christening. It really is a lovely picture if you can find it out there online.

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The Kate is just a another mom on maternity leave having the same struggles as mom of every mom of a toddler and new born is more than a bit ridiculous. You know what, Kate may be hands on and do much of the work and end up exhausted at the end of the day we don't know she does not and kudos' to her if she does but the difference is she makes a choice and can stop Anytime she wants.

I guess Camilla will be granny also, what else can he call her? Step granny ? Cam?

My nephews and niece call my Dad by his given name, but he obviously means more than a Step to my niece as ever since Parker was born, all Presents & Cards are to Great Grandpa. :). I'm sure they've figured out what Camilla will be called by George and as long as they're okay w/it...

They may be a Royal Family, but they're a Blended Royal Family and like all Blended Families, they'll figure it out. :)

I was very impressed by how Kate has already developed that special skill of keeping an eye on her Family and what they're up to at all times. There were a couple of moments when it appeared her attention was solely on Charlotte in her pram, yet at the same time she was also keeping an open ear out for what George was up to and when needed, helped out William w/him.

That seeming to have eyes in the back of her head, that was one thing about Mom during my Childhood I hated. Wonder if George is at that point yet?


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You must watch this video clip of Prince George from the christening

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Old 07-09-2015, 10:38 AM
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[QUOTE=Queen Camilla;1799695 Camilla's grandchildren probably call Charles 'sir'.[/QUOTE]


Why would they call a grandfather figure Sir? That makes little sense.
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Old 07-09-2015, 10:50 AM
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I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, thinking Pinterest, but there is a lovely portrait picture out there of Sister Helen Rowe, who was one of the then Princess Elizabeth's Midwives and I also think Nursery Nurse, but not so certain on that one, holding Prince Charles at his Christening. I was so shocked seeing it because AFAIK, it's the only time before George's that a Nanny or Nurse was actually seen as a part of a Royal Christening. It really is a lovely picture if you can find it out there online.




My nephews and niece call my Dad by his given name, but he obviously means more than a Step to my niece as ever since Parker was born, all Presents & Cards are to Great Grandpa. :). I'm sure they've figured out what Camilla will be called by George and as long as they're okay w/it...

They may be a Royal Family, but they're a Blended Royal Family and like all Blended Families, they'll figure it out. :)

I was very impressed by how Kate has already developed that special skill of keeping an eye on her Family and what they're up to at all times. There were a couple of moments when it appeared her attention was solely on Charlotte in her pram, yet at the same time she was also keeping an open ear out for what George was up to and when needed, helped out William w/him.

That seeming to have eyes in the back of her head, that was one thing about Mom during my Childhood I hated. Wonder if George is at that point yet?


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I was also very impressed with Catherine's ability to multi-task without being too obvious about it. You can tell she has this mommy thing under control . I'm sure George will soon realize that Mama knows what he's going to do before he even attempts to do it, and it will make for an interesting dynamic at home. Yes, the eyes in the back of the head was always something I hated, but now, as an adult I'm thankful for a mother who cared enough to tell me 'no', so that I won't get hurt, or land myself into trouble. I'm sure George will be the same way.

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Oh, goodness! What a little ham! He was determined to get a bit of freedom. Thank you for sharing. This was delightful.
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Old 07-09-2015, 10:55 AM
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According to Kensington Palace twitter the christening photos are about to be released. I hope that they come soon.
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We're about to share some very special christening photos by @mariotestino. Thanks so much for all the lovely messages in recent days!
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:14 AM
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Adorable photos and I love the different scenarios, in the drawing room and outside and inside.
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:19 AM
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I think George is bragging that he has more hair than his daddy in that one photo. I love that once again the Queen's handbag is in the shot. That has to piss Lupo off. 😋 He could squeeze in there under the sofa.


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I think Charlotte looks like Kate in the new pics...wonder what color her eyes will end up being.
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