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Old 09-14-2012, 04:19 PM
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^^Only one person has to notice and can tweet it, use Facebook or even call a pap agency. Social media is super quick now.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:24 PM
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According to the French Law, the magazine, the editor and the photographer can endure one year in prison and a fine of aproximately 50 000 euros.
Thanks for the info!

50000 euros isn't going to act as a deterrent to the press that publishes these pictures, IMO. I imagine they see these sorts of fines as an acceptable cost of doing business.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:39 PM
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The world is the way it is. Yes, the photographer was wrong and invaded their privacy.
But when you are a public person, you don't have any privacy. Fergie and Prince Harry both had a right to expect privacy too....but they didn't get it. If Kate didn't want pictures like this published, then she should have kept her clothes on when she was outside. She really has no one to blame but herself.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:40 PM
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Apparently, this magazine is saying they have more explicit photos where she has completed removing her bathing costume for an all-over tan. (Which they have decided NOT to publish).

All I can say IS she is either very brave or very stupid to sit outside completely naked! (If true)? Private holiday or not!
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:41 PM
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The world is the way it is. Yes, the photographer was wrong and invaded their privacy.
But when you are a public person, you don't have any privacy. Fergie and Prince Harry both had a right to expect privacy too....but they didn't get it. If Kate didn't want pictures like this published, then she should have kept her clothes on when she was outside. She really has no one to blame but herself.
I suppose you would blame a rape victim stating she shouldn't have worn the short skirt top, too.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:42 PM
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The world is the way it is. Yes, the photographer was wrong and invaded their privacy.
But when you are a public person, you don't have any privacy. Fergie and Prince Harry both had a right to expect privacy too....but they didn't get it. If Kate didn't want pictures like this published, then she should have kept her clothes on when she was outside. She really has no one to blame but herself.
This sentiment is so foul to me. I can't begin to imagine how little empathy someone has to have to read the situation this way.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:43 PM
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I do think some of these comments are akin to blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt. There are dangerous people out there so she should have worn pants.
One thing I hate to think about is how PISSED William is.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:44 PM
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Last week, French First Lady Valerie Trierweiler won a judgment of 2,000 euros after the publication of photos of her in a bikini. If the French First Lady can win a suit for being photographed in a bikini I have no doubt the Cambridges can win their suit, and likely something close to the maximum.
Surely the French remember that Williams mother died on their territory while being chased by paparazzi.
Only 2,000 euros, that like lunch money to them. That some BS right there, so much for strict privacy laws in France
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:44 PM
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French pubs are sued constantly because of the laws there and penalties are never dramatic. Charlotte Casiraghi sued simply because she was photo'd walking out of her boyfriend's apartment.

This is all part of a larger problem that has more to do with a lack of boundaries in a new age of technology. What can be done? Not much, really, and I guess the palace will have to navigate around that. Celebrities live for the attention and obviously royals don't want to be celebrities...well, most of them anyway.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:47 PM
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I do think some of these comments are akin to blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt. There are dangerous people out there so she should have worn pants.
One thing I hate to think about is how PISSED William is.
Is this for real?
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:50 PM
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Unfortunately, even a fine of the maximum 50,000 is nowhere near enough of a deterrent for unscrupulous paps and gossips mag editors. At 11am this morning a photographer on Sky News said 'Princess Kate naked' had been googled over 6 million times (who knows how many times it's been googled by now). Closer will make a bucket load of money out of this, 50k is well worth it.

What needs to happen is much bigger fines, a realistic risk of jail sentences for the paps and the editors, or even closure of the title entirely. Until that happens, the deterrent just isn't there.

I think the 1 yr in jail is the ticket. the money is an arbitrary amount that the business is paying. But if there is a possibility of personal imprisonment - each individual will have to make a decision as to whether they will participate - not this insulting cavalier attitude.... 'oh she's splendid' 'she should be proud of how normal she is" "our 21st century princess" . The editor who made the call to run these pictures needs to go to jail for 1 yr. that would curb a whole lot of this invasion of privacy.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:52 PM
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This sentiment is so foul to me. I can't begin to imagine how little empathy someone has to have to read the situation this way.
I know right. I watched Bondi Rescue season 1 a few months ago and there were a few girls sunbathing topless. I guess these girls also had no one but themselves to blame?

That makes me rage for days. It's such an effed up standard and also a dangerous message to send young girls.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:55 PM
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Only 2,000 euros, that like lunch money to them. That some BS right there, so much for strict privacy laws in France
The sum was relatively small because the French first lady sued a magazine for publishing bikini photos but at the same time authorized the same photos to be published in another magazine where she is journalist.
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[QUOTE=casualfan;1461071]How exactly could she have done more? She was in a relatively remote region of France, at a family member's home, in front of only her husband.

The Linleys did close access to all but a title page for the Chateau D'Autet. It's likely they and all kinds of guests have sunned by the pool in various degrees of dress in the past. But they and other guests do not carry the huge pap photo bounty on their heads that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge do.

The pool faces the road - time to erect a privacy screen, which is a sad commentary on prurient interest of the public.

I've never understood the silly interest in naked breasts in any case - even if they are the future queen's. At my university, in the woman's athletic building there was a high walled patio off the lap pool where one could sunbathe topless. Undergrads, faculty and admin alike would gather as the days warmed in spring and sun themselves like turtles on a warm road. This was in Michigan in the US which has really harsh winters and so to be able to do this felt exquisite.

Occasionally some male idiot would scale the high walls to peep at the exposed flesh. From 17-70 we all in unison booed and threw things at these silly intruders who quickly beat a retreat. As the Irish say "eegits!"

I think and hope Catherine has a sound enough body image to weather this. She certainly did a great job of that today. Well done Kate!
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:10 PM
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Honestly there is nothing better than blaming the victim is there?

You can't sit there at your computer and honestly type this and think it is ok can you? Because when I read this it's more than just Catherine should of known better, I read that all women should know better and that women have no one to blame for their victimization than themselves.

Rage doesn't even cover it and yes it sends a wrong message to girls.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:18 PM
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The Linleys did close access to all but a title page for the Chateau D'Autet.
...plus the links to other luxury vacation sites which promoted the property as a holiday destination.
It's a bit like installing an alarm system in a mansion after it has been robbed due to having only ordinary locks.
The English press had reported the destination of the Cambridges and the online advertising of the Chateau d'Autet provided an opportunity to check out how to access it best.
I'm surprised that security staff did not object here in the first place, and also that online pages have been erased now - after the fact, but before an impending lawsuit which might perhaps have to consider how easily available public information about the property was.
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more worrying, there was no security that could have prevented this and this means they are not sufficiently protected against violence.

I find the compusure of Kate no big deal, it is the least she can do.
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This sentiment is so foul to me. I can't begin to imagine how little empathy someone has to have to read the situation this way.
I know, I will never understand the blame the victim mentality that some people find so easy to use.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:21 PM
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Look to me that the chateau had a high wall protecting the property and the pool was not facing the road since the road was .5 miles away according to news report (CBS).

And just no to the victim blaming
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:23 PM
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Honestly there is nothing better than blaming the victim is there?

You can't sit there at your computer and honestly type this and think it is ok can you? Because when I read this it's more than just Catherine should of known better, I read that all women should know better and that women have no one to blame for their victimization than themselves.

Rage doesn't even cover it and yes it sends a wrong message to girls.
Sadly, a lot of women suffer from the Holier-Than-Thou attitude.
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