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She wasn't in a public place
Freedom of the press has never applied to situations involving private actions. Just as police cannot break into your home without legal authority, the press can not invade your privacy w/out your permission in France. Perhaps it's different in your country, but the law seems pretty clear in France, the consequence for breaking the law regarding press intrusion in France includes fines and up to a year in jail for the editor and the photographer, these french citizens (assuming the photographer was french) need to be held accountable according to the laws of their own country. A year in jail might put a stop to these invasions of privacy so many have suffered.I can´t believe some are talking about jail, that would be a serious case of censorship and violation of freedom of speech.
You´re not getting my point. I´m not bringing the vacation schedule here since it seems a lost case. For some people here they may take 10 vacations a year and it will be fine. I was referring to the blatant lie about them not being able to attend the closing ceremony because he was on duty"!!!!! And they were having their bodies tanned in France. That is the scandal.
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Theres a really big lesson in this lets hope she has learnt it.
We should all stay away from looking at the photos, or even looking at photos of the photos. Changing the behavior of the paps will only happen when people stop buying the mags and looking at the pics online.
So by saying she's not a victim, you're justifying the fact that someone else took the liberty of displaying someone else's body for the whole world to see. Without her permission. Nobody has the right to photograph you like this, even if she did take her top off. That doesn't justify it. At. All.Catherine is not a victim. She sunbathed outside topless and was photographed. It does not make her a victim. I absolutely agree that everyone should have an expectation of privacy. However, that is not life. Catherine married the son of the most photographed women of her generation. Being hounded by cameras simply will be her life. If she does not want to be photographed in compromised situations she simply will have to not put herself there. And if people were not interested in royals lives, clothes and love life there would not be any royal boards.
You´re not getting my point. I´m not bringing the vacation schedule here since it seems a lost case. For some people here they may take 10 vacations a year and it will be fine. I was referring to the blatant lie about them not being able to attend the closing ceremony because he was on duty"!!!!! And they were having their bodies tanned in France. That is the scandal.
As for the lawsuit, it will make things worse and longer. Princes Caroline lost a case this year before the European court, this can be taken as an antecedent. And honestly how is it invation of privacy to take pictures from a road. Don´t they know about other cases? Fergie? Diana? Paparazzi lenses can take pictures from miles away? What was she thinking? At least Harry, even if he was a fool, was in a hotel room ( and probably drunk, it is not nudity whay I had a problem with but the situation that led to that).
I can´t believe some are talking about jail, that would be a serious case of censorship and violation of freedom of speech. So they use the press and enjoy their attention when they need it but they want them to refrain from reporting if they make topless in a balcony?
some people should calm down here. some examples on rape victims, for instance, are completely out of scope.
i have never gone topless in public places. i just don't find it appropriate and i guard my intimacy for myself. yet, not very many people would be interested in taking naked pictures of a stranger like me on a beach, let's say (unless they are a bit perverted, hence why i never had interest in doing it - because, as i said, precaution is the best safeguard).
i like kate, and feel bad for what's happened to her. i am by no means justifying the photographer or saying that it was only kate's fault. we don't tango alone. it takes two for this to happen. so if kate didn't want to see such pictures out there, if harry didn't want his naked pictures to be shared or if fergie didn't want the toekissing pictures to be public, don't do it in the first place. and by all means, don't do it in a semi-public place. to them as public people, the interest in high everywhere and you are just starting to feed the beasts by doing it. that's all. you can hardly expect that those pictures won't be used once they reach an editorial.
Well said. The photographer was standing on a public road.
Well said. The photographer was standing on a public road.
I can't quite believe Ingrid Seward's comments. That's the last time I buy Majesty.
You are entirely missing my point. Life is not fair. Accept it. This is a case of cause and effect. For William and Catherine to assume that they will not always be a target for photographers (who by the way probably made a very handsome income from the photos) is simply naive. Princess Diana has already proved the point that there is no privacy.So by saying she's not a victim, you're justifying the fact that someone else took the liberty of displaying someone else's body for the whole world to see. Without her permission. Nobody has the right to photograph you like this, even if she did take her top off. That doesn't justify it. At. All.
There should be an unspoken law for this. And that is; stop exploiting females. The fact that William is Diana's son, does not make it ok for Kate to be put out like this. That does not mean she should have to put up with this. Because if she wants to live a remotely down to earth life and provide her future children with a safe and carefree childhood, there has to be made a clear limit.
It blows my mind that quite a few women on this board are so easy to brush this off. You would not be doing the same if this was your daughter, sister, firend or yourself.
You are entirely missing my point. Life is not fair. Accept it. This is a case of cause and effect. For William and Catherine to assume that they will not always be a target for photographers (who by the way probably made a very handsome income from the photos) is simply naive. Princess Diana has already proved the point that there is no privacy.
It doesn't make it right. It doesn't make it decent. But the reality is different. They will be hounded. It is up to William and Catherine to decide if they want to make the hounding profitable for the photographers and magazines.
Amelia said:If something is not right, if something is not decent then you don't just accept it.
[my bolding]That's not going to happen.
It's against human nature, and things that are against human nature never work (think Shakers, or Communism).
No, people are curious, they have a prurient interest in these pictures, they like to see famous people unclothed.
It's happened before and it wil happen again.
The best thing for Kate to do is hold her head up and move on.
Ugh.... as I was reading this thread, I glanced at my TV and across the bottom of CNN scrolls "Italian magazine Chi to publish royal photos".
Ugh.... as I was reading this thread, I glanced at my TV and across the bottom of CNN scrolls "Italian magazine Chi to publish royal photos".
I would think that the Cambridge's taking legal action against the French publication and photographer would serve as a deterrent to anyone going any where near these photos but seems like even legal action is just a small side effect of getting the voyeuristic scoop of the year to their credit.
some people should calm down here. some examples on rape victims, for instance, are completely out of scope.
i have never gone topless in public places. i just don't find it appropriate and i guard my intimacy for myself. yet, not very many people would be interested in taking naked pictures of a stranger like me on a beach, let's say (unless they are a bit perverted, hence why i never had interest in doing it - because, as i said, precaution is the best safeguard).
i like kate, and feel bad for what's happened to her. i am by no means justifying the photographer or saying that it was only kate's fault. we don't tango alone. it takes two for this to happen. so if kate didn't want to see such pictures out there, if harry didn't want his naked pictures to be shared or if fergie didn't want the toekissing pictures to be public, don't do it in the first place. and by all means, don't do it in a semi-public place. to them as public people, the interest in high everywhere and you are just starting to feed the beasts by doing it. that's all. you can hardly expect that those pictures won't be used once they reach an editorial.