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Old 09-19-2012, 02:27 AM
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They are very luck it was a camera & not a gun. They need to be careful at all times. This is a crazy, violent world, which royalty knows only too well!
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:36 AM
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I say, anyone who thinks anyone else should be 'public property' should be subjected to the treatment they'd care to inflict. I suggest Mr. Littlejohn would change his tune when pictures of him picking his nose in the car, or meeting his mistress, or adjusting his package, made the front page. People are not property. Those who represent the people nationally may be photographed in their capacity as public symbols, but when they are off-duty they are not national symbols, they are private citizens who should be allowed the same reasonable privacy rights as anyone else, without having to resort to extraordinary measures like locking themselves away on even vaster private estates - apparently the current ones just aren't large enough.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:44 AM
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Agreed. But my major concern is that it appears that there are those who believe that the law of the land, in this case France, does not cover the rights of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. Almost if your right to privacy is enshrined in law except if you are royal.

If that was the case, surely they would have a case for the International Court of Human Rights. Most peculiar!
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:27 AM
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Sorry I don't follow the Dutch Royals so I don't know what are you talking about
There was a time when the Dutch went to court all the time and they won but it was about pictures on private occasions with their children who - in general - as minors are not have their picture taken without consent of their parents. Problem is, they are public figures.

In the meantime, there seems to be a deal in place, the Dutch do regualar photoshoots / allow pictures on several, even private occasions but are left alone when they feel it is important, what seems to work.

When there is a Cambridge baby, William & Kate will need to make a such a deal as well because I dont think even the british press will back off then and we are not only talking about the child of William & Kate but a future heir/ess of the country.
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:51 AM
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Got more to do with the fact she isn't Middleton than the none use of their titles.
I do not know how is the law in England. In Greece for ex. women do not change their maidname upon marriage. Catherine would be Catherine Middleton, all her life. You even NOT add your husbands name. So might in England be the name. If according to the English law, she stays Catherine Middleton, it's normal for the French legal documents, to referr to her like this.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:37 AM
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Ooooo I can just imagine how peeved William is as a husband. I imagine curse words and things being thrown, and giving the evil eye to every man he passed because they might have seen the photos.

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I think the editor should be fired as well as the French one.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:36 AM
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In the meantime, there seems to be a deal in place, the Dutch do regualar photoshoots / allow pictures on several, even private occasions but are left alone when they feel it is important, what seems to work.

When there is a Cambridge baby, William & Kate will need to make a such a deal as well because I dont think even the british press will back off then and we are not only talking about the child of William & Kate but a future heir/ess of the country.
The British royals tried this too. All those ski holidays where Charles, William and Harry posed for the cameras in the expectation that the media would get what they wanted and then leave them in peace. Unfortunately for the British royals, it's not just British press who are stalking them. When they're being pursued by media from all over the world, no agreement between the BRF and the British press is respected by those from overseas.

That's why there were very few photos of Prince William at university in the UK (because photo sessions were put on for the press at St. Andrew's), but there were regular paparazzi shots of him published in foreign press.

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By that reasoning, we should expect front-row seats when the Duchess delivers her first child.
If they're public property at all time, then surely the least we can expect is that William and Kate arrange for a webcam (at the very least High Definition, and maybe even 3D?) to be installed in their bathroom. 24-hours per day live stream of the Cambridges' loo isn't asking too much surely? We have the right to all the intimate details of their digestive systems, it would seem. We'll all know whether they're getting enough fibre in their diets. Then when smell-o-vision is invented we'll have almost all our senses stimulated by their bathroom exploits!

Personally, I can't wait.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:50 AM
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The Daily Mail targets a specific demographic and they are successful in winding up their readership. I visit their website for the photos only, their reportage is cringe worthy.

I am assuming that Chi and Closer are separate entities although they share common ownership. Is this correct and does a judgement against Closer also impact Chi?
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:05 AM
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I agree with Donald trump Kate bought all of this on her self by bathing topless . Regardless where they are they know people are alwys watching them.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:13 AM
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The Daily Mail targets a specific demographic and they are successful in winding up their readership. I visit their website for the photos only, their reportage is cringe worthy.

I am assuming that Chi and Closer are separate entities although they share common ownership. Is this correct and does a judgement against Closer also impact Chi?
Richard Littlejohn, the author of that piece in the DM, is a real piece of work. He's almost unique in the UK in being very, very conservative and yet being a republican. The term 'controversial' was pretty much coined with him in mind.

Chi and Closer are both owned by Berlusconi. The injunction in France only applies in France itself. Chi is not affected by the law suit.

Could you imagine if Berlusconi was still Italian PM and had to visit the UK? His meeting with the Queen would've been interesting, although she .
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:37 AM
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I do not understand why they did not try the same Court Case in Italy, against CHI, in order to prevail the publication!! With Closer they were surprised, but for CHI they knew!! Couldnt' they apply to forbid the edition to appear? I read that CHI published 36 pages, containing 26 pictures??? I really do not find the interest for such a fuss!!! At the end of the story, it is just a married woman with her husband.
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Police raid Closer magazine

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Old 09-19-2012, 10:51 AM
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If I was a simple French citizen, I would be outraged by this. Currently, especially the South of France lives a high level of violence, young girls get rapped every day, elderly people are affraid to get out of their homes and Police does not have enough staff to protect them!! And now they occupy Police agents to make a raid to find this photographer.
I applaude the Court's decision, but now, enough is enough!! I think they go too far. If they were NOT who they are, nobody in any Police would move for such a matter. Thousand of young kids have their pics stolen and exposed in internet, and nobody moves, because no staff and no money.
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A Danish magazine has announced it also intends to publish the pictures. Does Berlesconi have media interests in Denmark?

I was surprised by the actions of the French police in raiding the magazine office in Paris but can't say it upsets me too much. I am hoping that when the criminal trial happens the photographer/editor/publisher all get to cool their heels in a French jail even if only for a few days.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:02 AM
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If I was a simple French citizen, I would be outraged by this. Currently, especially the South of France lives a high level of violence, young girls get rapped every day, elderly people are affraid to get out of their homes and Police does not have enough staff to protect them!! And now they occupy Police agents to make a raid to find this photographer.
I applaude the Court's decision, but now, enough is enough!! I think they go too far. If they were NOT who they are, nobody in any Police would move for such a matter. Thousand of young kids have their pics stolen and exposed in internet, and nobody moves, because no staff and no money.
I find the use of the term "Raid" interesting/misleading. The police showed up in the morning basically asking for information regarding the photographer. They did not break down the doors and search the place.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:06 AM
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If I was a simple French citizen, I would be outraged by this. Currently, especially the South of France lives a high level of violence, young girls get rapped every day, elderly people are affraid to get out of their homes and Police does not have enough staff to protect them!! And now they occupy Police agents to make a raid to find this photographer.
I applaude the Court's decision, but now, enough is enough!! I think they go too far. If they were NOT who they are, nobody in any Police would move for such a matter. Thousand of young kids have their pics stolen and exposed in internet, and nobody moves, because no staff and no money.
I agree with this...the whole thing is becoming overkill.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:07 AM
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A Danish magazine has announced it also intends to publish the pictures. Does Berlesconi have media interests in Denmark?

I was surprised by the actions of the French police in raiding the magazine office in Paris but can't say it upsets me too much. I am hoping that when the criminal trial happens the photographer/editor/publisher all get to cool their heels in a French jail even if only for a few days.

I agree. Even an overnight stay in jail can send a message. IMO, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are resigned to the fact that the photos are 'out there' but as people have commented, they just can't turn the other cheek on this (sorry hehe).
Will this lawsuit stop every magazine, no but it will definitely give a lot of them pause to thoroughly weigh the consequences and put everyone on notice that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are not push overs.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:09 AM
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Remember that in addition to the civil lawsuit a criminal complaint has been filed. I can't comment on French police procedure but it would appear that if a crime was committed then the police are obligated to investigate.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:12 AM
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I am glad the French police are doing their work!
As for the Danish mag, shame on you! Speechless....
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:17 AM
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If I was a simple French citizen, I would be outraged by this. Currently, especially the South of France lives a high level of violence, young girls get rapped every day, elderly people are affraid to get out of their homes and Police does not have enough staff to protect them!! And now they occupy Police agents to make a raid to find this photographer.
I applaude the Court's decision, but now, enough is enough!! I think they go too far. If they were NOT who they are, nobody in any Police would move for such a matter. Thousand of young kids have their pics stolen and exposed in internet, and nobody moves, because no staff and no money.


The thing is this picture snafu is a symptom of a much larger issue.
Thousands of ppl adults and children get their pics stolen and put on websites as pornography. What happened to Kate was on a smaller scale. If this photographer and editor face jail time I will be so happy. Peoples bodies are not PUBLIC PROPERTY. esp womens bodies. We think its funny to share photos of ppl in magazines and newspapers that are nude. If ppl pose for them willingly its different. But we accept too much crap. Its not okay to take nude or semi nude photos of ANYONE who is unaware or UNWILLING and share them . Its repulsive. Why are we normalising such behaviour. Then we're outraged when a peeping tom or pedo doesnt get convicted. Let this editor and photographer get convicted. Its a step in the right direction.

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