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Old 09-15-2012, 06:02 PM
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Rosana, it seems to be that you are one of those members who constantly twist the facts to write mean things about the Royals. Fact is William was on duty during the time of the closing ceremony of the Olympics - so Harry and Catherine stood in for him with Harry representing the queen.

He was on holiday during the closing ceremony of the Paralympics but nobody said anything about him being on duty and the Crown certainly was well represented there.

So where is this scandal you are fuming about? And who said what you claim happened in order to make in scandalous?
I am not twisting the facts (I may have implied he was on duty too). He was absent at the Olympics ceremony because he was on duty, they could not lie on that, his mates would know they were lying. Now, what was the real reason for being absent at the Paralympic'? A prior unspecified commitment, much more important for the two ambassadors to not attend. They were not only hiding they were in France, they were showing those amazing athletes how much they care!

Chi magazine is goint to publish, it belongs to Berlusconi. I dare say he doesn´t care much to lose a lawsuit.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:02 PM
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At the end of the day the public will always remember that the death of Diana was associated with the constant hounding of the press. This alone is one of the reasons why the British press have not gone near the photos - and why Kate and William should take a strong stance on suing to send out a clear message if any other photos that show personal moments of the Duchess and William, don't get published. As the saying goes, "start as you mean to go on".
Sadly in hindsight, Kate is probably wishing she should have never done it.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:07 PM
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Really? The Mail Online thinks Catherine was wrong because she should have known that there would be some idiot photographer waiting in the wings to snap some photos of her every move? Really? Come on, like you are really going to be thinking about that 24/7. Wow, since when did this poor couple have to start living in total fear and paranoia? If they cant go somewhere secluded and have some form of privacy then they might as well just lock themselves away when they go on holidays or royal visits. Honestly, this is just plain rude of the french press. I wouldnt blame them if they decide to not give interviews or even talk to the press for a long while. Not that the British press is at fault here but given the anger right now, I wouldnt be at all surprised if all will pay a price. This is the worst timing. First Harry, now this. All I know is Harrys situation was very different than Catherines being it was a full on wild party so in a way, it was bound to happen. Catherine was with her husband enjoying time away with him, doing what most couples would do thinking they are on holiday alone. What a shame it was ruined.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:11 PM
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I am not twisting the facts. He was absent at the Olympics ceremony because he was on duty, they could not lie on that, his mates would know they were lying. Now, what was the real reason for being absent at the Paralympic' A prior unspecified commitment, much more important for the two ambassadors to not attend. They were not only hiding they were in France, they were showing those amazing athletes how much they care!
There is nothing that states anywhere the as ambassadors to the paralympic games, they have to attend each and every function that is held. What royals attend any engagement in an official capacity is decided on by the Firm ahead of time. If the Firm deemed it acceptable that Wills and Kate had other commitments, who are we to deem otherwise?
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:11 PM
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Not the paparazzi they don't give a damn if she is the queen the paparazzi will post whatever they want to post. Catherine didn't know so it's not her fault but still who is to blame here no one at all. Who cares about the Daily mail you know Italy and Ireland are the next to post it. Everyone knows etc. Big Deal
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:15 PM
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I just feel so sorry for her to be violated like this. If she does do this activity at her own home I hope she won't anymore, you can't trust these *€%_¥@-$ not to act like perverted stalkers and spy on you in your most private moments. I do think there needs to be stiffer penalties for the *€%_¥@-$
Who do stuff like this. I'm proud to see them going on about their tour and keeping their game faces on.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:33 PM
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I mean what if she was by herself and William was somewhere in the Mideast she would of just lost it.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:39 PM
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Was trying to find the words to reply to your post last night, but then came across this article which pretty much sums it up. I still say I am surprised she took the risk but I do hope she finds the strength to get through this.
Duchess of Cambridge Closer photos: Kate Middleton was daft to allow paparazzi to get so close | Mail Online
I saw that article. I thought it was malicious and victim blaming.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:17 PM
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If something is not right, if something is not decent then you don't just accept it. If people did we would be living in a very different world today. It is not naive for a woman, regardless of who she is, to expect not to have her body exploited by others. The idea that anyone would tell a woman who has had photographs of her nude body taken in a private place without her knowledge or consent to just accept it is just sickening.
For a celebrity like Catherine to not assume that she is a prime target for this kind of photos is not only naive but totally lacking judgement. She is not "a woman". She is the wife of the second in line to the Brittish throne. She stepped in to the limelight the moment she married William. The privileges that comes with being a royal celebrity carries a price. As long as there is a market for indelicate photos of celebrities there will be photographers chasing opportunities. We can all put pressure on our politicians to out-law these kinds of photos and assign severe judgements for anyone breaking the rule. But this is a big money making market. Perhaps the lawsuit William has started will bring some change but I would not count on it.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:22 PM
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Funny thing is you don't see them posting photos of Michelle Obama nude!
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:38 PM
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For a celebrity like Catherine to not assume that she is a prime target for this kind of photos is not only naive but totally lacking judgement. She is not "a woman". She is the wife of the second in line to the Brittish throne. She stepped in to the limelight the moment she married William. The privileges that comes with being a royal celebrity carries a price. As long as there is a market for indelicate photos of celebrities there will be photographers chasing opportunities. We can all put pressure on our politicians to out-law these kinds of photos and assign severe judgements for anyone breaking the rule. But this is a big money making market. Perhaps the lawsuit William has started will bring some change but I would not count on it.
Kate is not a celebrity. She's married to a man who happens to be the heir to the heir to the British throne. That means she has certain responsibilities and has to accept a degree of public interest in her and her family, which I'm sure she understands.

Marrying the 2nd in line to the throne does not mean she's signing up to a life devoid of a fundamental human right that every person is entitled to, be they princes or postmen, the right to a private life.

If, as some here are suggesting, being a member of the royal family means never having the right to any privacy, even in remote private family-owned estates many miles from anything, then that's just incredibly sad. That's going to make the lives of these people intolerable IMO. We're going to have to expect that the enormous stress and fear that that will cause will make life pretty miserable for them, or maybe even untenable.

If I were William and Kate, I'd tell the world to get stuffed, renounce my titles and head back to Angelsey to live out my life away from the voyeurs and vultures.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:00 PM
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I don't think Michelle would appear nude in public. I want to know where the security was why was this photographer able to get there in the first place suppose it wasn't a photographer but some nut with a gun.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:05 PM
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I just found out that Chi Magazine was also the rag that published "the last photo" of Diana after she died. It was a picture of paramedics with her. Disgusting.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:27 PM
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Funny thing is you don't see them posting photos of Michelle Obama nude!
Because there is not nearly the amount of money to be made from Michelle sunbathing nude as compared to Catherine. And if I would chose to sunbath nude I would probably have to pay someone to take my photo. The issue being discussed is photos of Catherine. I can not think of anyone that would have the same appeal to the type of magazine that is publishing the much discussed photos. Catherine is unique. Her life will never be like anyone elses.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:36 PM
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Was trying to find the words to reply to your post last night, but then came across this article which pretty much sums it up. I still say I am surprised she took the risk but I do hope she finds the strength to get through this.
Duchess of Cambridge Closer photos: Kate Middleton was daft to allow paparazzi to get so close | Mail Online
Victim blaming at it finest
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:45 PM
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Um as a black woman I do not think we sun bathe, or a small minority do.
I am just shocked that there isn't more outrage when this happens? Why is taking a picture up a woman's skirt permitted? Why is selling a woman without a top in her backyard allowed? Why are private phone conversations from Charles and Diana allowed to circulate! Is there really no basic common sense and decency anymore?
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:49 PM
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Question:

Why would a magazine buy these photos?

Answer:

Because the public will buy the magazine.

Sadly again it is the public who are the cause of this because they will hand over their money to buy the magazines with the photos.

It isn't the press at fault but the general public and the royals themselves who made a bad decision - to undress in view of a public road on which anyone can stand to take photos. They weren't in a 'secluded' place if it is visible from the road - sorry.

I have no sympathy for Kate - she is supposed to be an intelligent woman (with a degree from a reputable university) but she showed total lack of intelligence in this case.

Long-range photography lenses have been around for decades and so they have to realise this and accept that nowhere in a line of site from a public place is 'secluded' but is open to a photographer.

Taking legal action will also only drag this on and create a bigger buzz and more and more people wanting to see the photos, including a call for more magazines etc to publish them. Had they simply ignored the situation, the demand for the photos wouldn't have had legs.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:03 PM
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Um as a black woman I do not think we sun bathe, or a small minority do.
I am just shocked that there isn't more outrage when this happens? Why is taking a picture up a woman's skirt permitted? Why is selling a woman without a top in her backyard allowed? Why are private phone conversations from Charles and Diana allowed to circulate! Is there really no basic common sense and decency anymore?
Society only views women as object not as human with rights
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I am just shocked that there isn't more outrage when this happens? Why is taking a picture up a woman's skirt permitted? Why is selling a woman without a top in her backyard allowed? Why are private phone conversations from Charles and Diana allowed to circulate! Is there really no basic common sense and decency anymore?

Why?
Because $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:40 PM
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Society only views women as object not as human with rights
And treats us as if it's ok to treat our bodies as sexual all the time- like that's what we exist for and our consent is not necessary to treat us that way.

I've seen so many comments elsewhere about her body and people's opinions on it and what they'd like to do with her, etc and it just makes me feel sick. She's a person, with feelings, and her private time with her husband doesn't belong to the world, and her body certainly doesn't.

It also just makes me feel sad and a bit defeated that so many people, including a lot of women, feel otherwise.

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