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Old 07-02-2013, 06:34 AM
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Kotroman, taking the names from Scots royalty would still be "in the family" since the British royals are descended from the Scots royals Margaret, David, Robert and so forth.
Scots royals were, as much as the Brits, descended from a variety of ethnic groups, such as Normans, Celts, Bretons, Saxons, Hungarians, Flemings, and so forth. There were some terrible wars between England and Scotland. But a lot of the Norman Scots came from Britain (with threads going back to the Continent). For instance, Walter FitzAlan came from Bretons but was of the Norman culture in Shropshire, and brought a passel of Norman knights with him to Scotland, and the Norman knights were of a variety of ethnic backgrounds just as was Walter (the First High Steward). The history of Scotland, a melting pot of cultures, is fascinating.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:07 AM
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Isn't the (Scottish) surname Frasier thought to be of French origins...I've read that somewhere.


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Old 07-02-2013, 07:19 AM
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Cynthia | meaning of Cynthia | name Cynthia

According to this link the name Cynthia is directly linked to Diana. Would be an alternative and would also pay tribute to Williams Great Grandmonther Cynthia Hamilton (Countess Spencer)

Perhaps Elizabeth Cynthia Phillipa Caroline
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:53 AM
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I have avert strong feeling its a boy!

I'd love the boy to be called Philip, but I see it being used as a middle name as opposed to a first name.

Looking at their wedding or choices even otherwise it's safe to say they'll stick to something traditional.

My guess is - George Philip Michael Charles
Henry David Albert George

For a girl, I'd love Charlotte.

Charlotte Alice Mary
Alexandra Diana Eugenie
Victoria Helena Caroline


I'd like Diana to be used, either as a first or middle name.

The baby will have her own identity. Even without the Diana name there are bound to be comparisons eg: the baby has Diana's eyes/nose/etc.
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:08 PM
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If it's a boy, I actually wouldn't be too surprised if they use Philip as a first name. It's been 450 years or so since King Philip of Spain was consort to Queen Mary I. The name is most associated with The Duke of Edinburgh in the general public's mind. If it's a girl, I have no idea, but also wouldn't be too surprised at a Princess Elizabeth Diana.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:55 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Philip as a first name, either, tihkon2. Actually, it's my absolute top choice if a prince is born. I think that the Duke of Edinburgh has been such a presence in the life of the monarchy and his contributions can be overlooked sometimes. It would be a lovely tribute to the man who's had to walk two steps behind HMTQ for so long.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:14 PM
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Philip would be such a lovely name for a boy and I'm sure that HM would agree with that.

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Oh, I am not saying that I do not like the names. They are both great, but if we are going to be realistic, we have to admit that they are simply very unlikely choices. As I said, I would be thrilled if they named their baby Malcolm/Alexander/David/Robert/Margaret (basically if they took the name out of the list of Scottish monarchs), but I am aware that the chances of that happening are very, very slim
Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think either of the names are unlikely, nor do I think that names like Alexander, David or Margaret are unlikely choices either (and I, like you, would be stoked if they chose a name from the list of Scottish monarch). I don't understand why those names are less workable than names like Victoria or George?

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These two parts of your post just don't work well together, don't you think? Either we both can identify with them, or neither of us can
I actually have no clue what you mean by that. I merely stated that I personally wouldn't want to share my first name with a close relative, not that William and Catherine absolutely not are going to name their child the same as a close relative
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:24 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Philip as a first name, either, tihkon2. Actually, it's my absolute top choice if a prince is born. I think that the Duke of Edinburgh has been such a presence in the life of the monarchy and his contributions can be overlooked sometimes. It would be a lovely tribute to the man who's had to walk two steps behind HMTQ for so long.
It's my number one top choice for a boy too, and the reason I'm hoping for a boy, even though part of me would love to see the first British heiress apparent.

(The other reason that I'm hoping for a boy is that I'd love to see a little Princess Diana, and I think they'd be more likely to name a child after William's mother if she isn't directly in line to the throne)
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:28 PM
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LaRae, I looked up "the name Frazier" and didn't get much in depth, but I would say the definition probably closest would be that it is Scottish of the Norman French variety and it means "of the woods", like a forester. In the 12th century, the Norman landholders spoke French among themselves and Latin in scholarly pursuits, only gradually incorporating some Gaelic and English into the mix. Or course there were other people still speaking forms of Gaelic and Breton.
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... I'd love to see a little Princess Diana, and I think they'd be more likely to name a child after William's mother if she isn't directly in line to the throne)
Me, too, HRHHermoine. I know about all of the comparison arguments and all, but let's be honest: this kid was going to have comparisons to its grandmother no matter the name or resemblance. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I would love to see Diana's granddaughter carry her name.
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Me, too, HRHHermoine. I know about all of the comparison arguments and all, but let's be honest: this kid was going to have comparisons to its grandmother no matter the name or resemblance. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I would love to see Diana's granddaughter carry her name.
Yup, I just don't think they'll use the name for a girl who's the heiress presumptive. Much more likely to use the name for a second or third child, in my opinion.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:43 PM
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I don't think the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will name give Diana as a first name for any of their children.

Maybe, if Prince Harry have a daughter, he'll name her Diana, but I also don't think that will happen.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:50 PM
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Diana is quite appropriate, I think. It would be a problem for Charles, though, perhaps?
Memories that hurt? A slight change, to Diane, might subtly mute the memories for Charles. Diane is French as opposed to Diana, Roman. Perhaps they have a list and are waiting to see baby before giving the name, since sometimes the baby's looks suggest a certain type of name. What if she (if it's she) is a redhead like Harry? Does she have to be Rosie Diane, then? They are probably not expecting a redhead but I think the genetic patterns allow it to break through. A pale slip of a girl with red-blonde hair, wearing art nouveau clothes when she is the age of Lady Louise, with a child's emerald ring...just one possible version of Baby Cambridge.
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Diana is quite appropriate, I think. It would be a problem for Charles, though, perhaps?
Memories that hurt? A slight change, to Diane, might subtly mute the memories for Charles. Diane is French as opposed to Diana, Roman. Perhaps they have a list and are waiting to see baby before giving the name, since sometimes the baby's looks suggest a certain type of name. What if she (if it's she) is a redhead like Harry? Does she have to be Rosie Diane, then? They are probably not expecting a redhead but I think the genetic patterns allow it to break through. A pale slip of a girl with red-blonde hair, wearing art nouveau clothes when she is the age of Lady Louise, with a child's emerald ring...just one possible version of Baby Cambridge.
I would rather prefer to see a serious and regal little Princess Elizabeth of Cambridge, just like Her Majesty the Queen, when she was Princess Elizabeth of York.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:17 PM
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I don't think that they should use Diana as a first name if it is a girl, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if they did. Any daughter of William or Harry is going to invite comparisons to their beloved mother, but the media will be forced to move on eventually, especially as the child grows up and establishes her own identity.
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Diana is quite appropriate, I think. It would be a problem for Charles, though, perhaps?
Memories that hurt? A slight change, to Diane, might subtly mute the memories for Charles. Diane is French as opposed to Diana, Roman. Perhaps they have a list and are waiting to see baby before giving the name, since sometimes the baby's looks suggest a certain type of name. What if she (if it's she) is a redhead like Harry? Does she have to be Rosie Diane, then? They are probably not expecting a redhead but I think the genetic patterns allow it to break through. A pale slip of a girl with red-blonde hair, wearing art nouveau clothes when she is the age of Lady Louise, with a child's emerald ring...just one possible version of Baby Cambridge.
The name 'Diane' makes me think of a middle-aged lady, who is working as a receptionist, and not a princess. Also, I have a feeling the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will dress their children in a classy style. I love how Sophie dresses Lady Louise, and Viscount Severn, so I hope Catherine will follow suit.

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I would rather prefer to see a serious and regal little Princess Elizabeth of Cambridge, just like Her Majesty the Queen, when she was Princess Elizabeth of York.
I'm with you. From what I've read about Her Majesty as a child, she had a great imagination, and was mature and wise beyond her years. I'd love to see a daughter like that for William and Catherine (and if they named her 'Elizabeth' it would be a huge plus, because that's my absolute favorite name for a girl).
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let me weigh in onthis. i like genevieve or perhaps guinevere as a first name
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let me weigh in onthis. i like genevieve or perhaps guinevere as a first name
Genevieve is my name :)

I've always been fond of it.
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:58 PM
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I quite like Genevieve and Guinevere was my Grandmothers name. I do love Elizabeth it has such a rich history and would be a wonderful tribute to his Grandmother and Great Grandmother with Diana as a middle name. I hate Liz though so I would they would find another pet name I've always loved Lilabet so maybe Lily for short? I think the baby could be a little brunette although blonde is very strong on Williams side. Red heads have become more common these days so it wouldn't be surprising if have a little red head. LOL We will know soon enough hopefully someone I spoke to today thinks she will have her by next week. It's funny I live in a small country town in Australia and people talking about it like it's a family member. LOL Guess the republicans are going to have to try harder. Little baby Cambridge already has lot's of attention and he/she isn't even here yet.
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I think what NGalitzine was saying is that having boys would remove the urgency to change the laws -- the laws would get changed eventually. But having a firstborn boy removes the need to rush any changes through since the direct line of succession would be all-male for at least two to three more decades and the law wouldn't be needed to prevent the possibility of a firstborn daughter being displaced as heir over a younger son.

I get that it's a symbolic issue, though. The law would be changed, but there'd be no urgency for it. I'm not rooting for one sex or the other, personally. :P
What urgency? It is being done retroactively, for any descendents of Chuck. If the law takes 10 years to pass, and will and kate have a girl now and five sons to follow, she'd still displace her brothers as heir eventually.

Why should it matter if it is needed? This is the twenty first century, and it should just be done. Well past time these sexist laws have been changed
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