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Old 04-26-2013, 11:51 AM
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Never heard of "so-fye-a", So-fee-a has always been the pronounced term where I'm from.
I've just looked on Behind the Name, and it says that Sof-eye-a is indeed an old-fashioned British English pronunciation. You learn something new every day!

In any case, I prefer it pronounced So-fee-a [after all, it's Sophie / So-fee with an A on the end!], and I think anyone who pronounced it with an I sound instead of an E sound would have to put up with it being mispronounced all the time, and with people not knowing they mean Sophia when they say their name.
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In the 18th Century in English speaking countries, "Maria" was pronounced like the modern day "Mariah." So I would not be surprised if "Sophia" or any girl's name now pronounced "ee-ya" was then pronounced "eye-ya"
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:42 PM
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So-fee-ya with a low E (like in Century) sounds in Portuguese "Sou feia" (means: I'm ugly).
I like Sophia spelled like Sophie but with a a at the end, my second name is Sophia (in fact in Portuguese is written Sofia, and is spelled like I just said and is the one I like best)
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I like Sophia spelled like Sophie but with a a at the end, my second name is Sophia (in fact in Portuguese is written Sofia, and is spelled like I just said and is the one I like best)
Do you mean Sophiea?
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:56 PM
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Yes, Sophie+a, but without the e sound, so in the end is Sophia, just like is Sofia. (Infanta Sofia name is pronounced the same)
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Yes, Sophie+a, but without the e sound, so in the end is Sophia, just like is Sofia. (Infanta Sofia name is pronounced the same)
I don't get it, is this supposed to be different from the everyday Sofia?
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:36 PM
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And I thought I knew how to pronounce it and it was straightforward
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I don't get it, is this supposed to be different from the everyday Sofia?
No its the same
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:36 PM
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In the 18th Century in English speaking countries, "Maria" was pronounced like the modern day "Mariah." So I would not be surprised if "Sophia" or any girl's name now pronounced "ee-ya" was then pronounced "eye-ya"
That's correct, it was. It sounds unfamiliar to our modern ears, but before the 20th century the English pronunciation of Maria and Sophia rhymed with 'fire' or 'higher'. Somewhere along the way it became fashionable and then customary to use the Italian pronunciation for both these names. The old pronunciation of Maria lingered on in the term "Black Maria" for a prison van.

It doesn't surprise me that people are saying that they never heard this pronunciation of Sophia. I first heard it in English literature lessons at school when we read the 18th century novel Tom Jones in which the heroine is Sophia. We were surprised when our teacher read it aloud, but she explained to us that that is how the name was said in 1749 ....
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:54 PM
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I've just looked on Behind the Name, and it says that Sof-eye-a is indeed an old-fashioned British English pronunciation. You learn something new every day!

In any case, I prefer it pronounced So-fee-a [after all, it's Sophie / So-fee with an A on the end!], and I think anyone who pronounced it with an I sound instead of an E sound would have to put up with it being mispronounced all the time, and with people not knowing they mean Sophia when they say their name.
That would certainly be true for most people. But I think that if the Cambridges decided on this name and pronunciation for a daughter, it would be a talking point and people would very quickly get used to it. It could change the fashion again!
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I prefer the modern day pronunciation of Sophia, and I think it's a lovely name with Royal family connections but I do not think it would be used as there are technically two Sophie's in the family. It would be nice if Countess of Wessex was a godmother, to give Sophie as one of her middle names.

I cannot wait for this baby to be born and I hope they don't keep the public waiting to long to know her name. That is the first question they will be asked as soon as William leaves the hospital to the waiting press, and he of course will not say as the men never do. They probably already do have the name chosen when they leave hospital but it does have to get approved of course.
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I prefer the modern day pronunciation of Sophia, and I think it's a lovely name with Royal family connections but I do not think it would be used as there are technically two Sophie's in the family.
That was why I mentioned the alternative pronunciation in the first place.
Regardless of anyone's personal preferences, Sophia in its old form sounds quite different from Sophie. It is altogether a stronger sounding name.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:22 AM
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Who's the other Sophie?
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Who's the other Sophie?
Lady Frederick Windsor a.k.a Sophie Winkleman. She is of course not that well known publically, but in the family she is obviously known.
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The argument for the two Alberts isn't strong. Albert of Monaco is a different generation.... only two years older then Phillippe, Albert II of Belgium's heir.
Also, one is King Albert of Belgium and one is Prince Albert of Monacco. I'm more concerned about having, say, two named Queen Victoria.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:43 AM
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And furthermore King Albert wasn´t always the heir to the throne. He just became King because his brother died surprisingly and without children.
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I really doubt they would go with the 18th century pronunciation of Sophia or any other name in the Royal British Baby Name Book (which is all of 5 pages or so per gender).

How about Thomas for a boy? I know it's not a "royal" name, but it's certainly traditional. If they wanted to give the baby a name all his own, yet stay traditional, I think it's a fine choice.
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Yes I like Thomas to, its a very pretty name for boy, traditional but not old-fashioned!
But however, I think this name suits better for a second child Catherine and William might have.
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I like the name Thomas too, and Tom is a nice nick name for the Prince. Prince Thomas sounds lovely.

I really do hope these children are close to Savannah and Isla, and perhaps Louise and James as they will be the closest in age to the them in the immediate family circle. I would love to see some photos of this baby as toddler with his or her second cousin James on the balcony for Trooping the Colour, like the many photos we had of William and Harry with Freddie, Gabriella, Rose, Davina and Alexander etc.
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Also, one is King Albert of Belgium and one is Prince Albert of Monacco. I'm more concerned about having, say, two named Queen Victoria.
It's not likely that they will be Queen at the same time or if both of them become Queen at all
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