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Old 04-11-2013, 02:22 PM
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The Charles as George thing was reported in a 2005 Times article titled "Call me George, suggests Charles" by Andrew Pierce - I believe the article is still available on the Times website, but you have to have a subscription. The official line from Clarence House, as of then, is that "No decision has been made and it will be made at the time." The whole George thing really is based on a rumour that a paper reported 8 years ago.

The whole thing is discussed here: Charles as King: Choice of Regnal Name
I'm sure this suggestion was going around long before 2005. I remember discussing it with my late mother, and she died in the 1990s. I should love to know where it really started.
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:40 PM
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I'm sure this suggestion was going around long before 2005. I remember discussing it with my late mother, and she died in the 1990s. I should love to know where it really started.
I'm sure people had the idea before 2005, but it was in 2005 that it was first suggested to have been what Charles himself was thinking.

The idea of him reigning as something other than Charles has probably existed since the day his name was announced, owing to the predecessors with that name. It's just like if the Cambridge baby is named Annabel, it'll be suggested that she'll take a different regnal name one day.
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:20 PM
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I'm sure people had the idea before 2005, but it was in 2005 that it was first suggested to have been what Charles himself was thinking.

The idea of him reigning as something other than Charles has probably existed since the day his name was announced, owing to the predecessors with that name. It's just like if the Cambridge baby is named Annabel, it'll be suggested that she'll take a different regnal name one day.
No - as I said, it had come up long before then. That it was Charles's intention to use George as his regnal name. I am not saying that there was any truth in it, just that it had already been broached (presumably in the media) many years before.
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What has Charles' possible regnal name have to do with names & godparents of Baby Cambridge? There is an existing thread to speculate about the name Charles might reign under already.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:10 PM
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What has Charles' possible regnal name have to do with names & godparents of Baby Cambridge? There is an existing thread to speculate about the name Charles might reign under already.
Yes babynames:

A couple more to my pre-existing list

Maud
Tatiana
Oliver

But if I was really willing to put money on it I'd go A Girl: Sophia, Alice or Charlotte and for a Boy: Arthur or Theodore. I don't know they are very pretty names, suitably 'royal' whatever that means, but quite simple.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:25 PM
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What has Charles' possible regnal name have to do with names & godparents of Baby Cambridge? There is an existing thread to speculate about the name Charles might reign under already.
Because people are discussing whether certain names are "regal" enough for a direct heir to the throne. We have observed that a sovereign does not always use his/her first given name as regnal name. There has been a slight digression, but the essential point is relevant.
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Princess Maud: She became Queen of Norway. her husband was the second son of the Danish king, and he and Maud retired to a peaceful life in Denmark. Then they were called to be King and Queen of Norway, and their son changed his name to Olav to be more Norwegian. So I read.

A current Norwegian Princess (forget her name) named her daughter Maud Angelica. This is a wonderful example of how a name combination can soar. She named her daughter after her ancestor Queen Maud but added something to Maud that made it sparkle. Maybe not "regnal", but nice.

More Maud information. My husband grew up in an area where there were some Japanese farmers. One of the farmers and his wife loved the name Maud because it sounded so Japanese. It was spelled, however, Maude (May-U-Dee). So their daughter became Maude (May-U-Dee).

And more: Maud is supposedly a shortening of Madeleine among the British. How to make Maud regnal: Change it back to Madeleine.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:50 PM
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Princess Maud: She became Queen of Norway. her husband was the second son of the Danish king, and he and Maud retired to a peaceful life in Denmark. Then they were called to be King and Queen of Norway, and their son changed his name to Olav to be more Norwegian. So I read.

A current Norwegian Princess (forget her name) named her daughter Maud Angelica. This is a wonderful example of how a name combination can soar. She named her daughter after her ancestor Queen Maud but added something to Maud that made it sparkle. Maybe not "regnal", but nice.

More Maud information. My husband grew up in an area where there were some Japanese farmers. One of the farmers and his wife loved the name Maud because it sounded so Japanese. It was spelled, however, Maude (May-U-Dee). So their daughter became Maude (May-U-Dee).

And more: Maud is supposedly a shortening of Madeleine among the British. How to make Maud regnal: Change it back to Madeleine.
That is a great story and a wonderful name. I don't think they will go for Madeleine although its a beautiful name, Maybe though you never know.

Whatever the girls name it will be followed by Elizabeth Diana. Figure they will give her four names so probably ........ Elizabeth Diana Caroline, after everyone. If I boy I expect ............. Phillip Carl to be in there (for some reason I don't think it will be Charles.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:50 PM
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Maud is supposedly a shortening of Madeleine among the British. How to make Maud regnal: Change it back to Madeleine.
I've never heard of a Madeleine being called Maud. Maud is an old-fashioned shortening of Matilda. Henry I's daughter Matilda was often referred to as the Empress Maud.

I did once know a Maureen who was known as Maud.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:55 PM
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Princess Maud: She became Queen of Norway. her husband was the second son of the Danish king, and he and Maud retired to a peaceful life in Denmark. Then they were called to be King and Queen of Norway, and their son changed his name to Olav to be more Norwegian. So I read.

A current Norwegian Princess (forget her name) named her daughter Maud Angelica. This is a wonderful example of how a name combination can soar. She named her daughter after her ancestor Queen Maud but added something to Maud that made it sparkle. Maybe not "regnal", but nice.

More Maud information. My husband grew up in an area where there were some Japanese farmers. One of the farmers and his wife loved the name Maud because it sounded so Japanese. It was spelled, however, Maude (May-U-Dee). So their daughter became Maude (May-U-Dee).

And more: Maud is supposedly a shortening of Madeleine among the British. How to make Maud regnal: Change it back to Madeleine.
Maud is a BRF name - we might see it.

Princess Maud Elizabeth.
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Maud is a BRF name - we might see it.

Princess Maud Elizabeth.
Maud is one of those names I would put on the second daughter's possible names list.
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HRH Princess Maud of the UK, later HM Queen of Norway
HH Princess Maud of Fife, later Countess of Southesk
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Maud was first used by Queen Victoria, her second daughter was Alice Maud Mary Victoria.
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Bookies Tip Alexandra as Name of Cambridge Baby

Apparently, there has been a big run-up in the last few days for bets on the name Alexandra. "Many of the bets appeared to be coming in from Berkshire, the county that houses royal residence Windsor Castle." Do they know something? "Elizabeth, Diana and Victoria are close behind, following widespread speculation that the royal couple's first child will be a girl."

I also found this interesting:
"Edward VIII, who abdicated in 1936, was christened Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David - the first names were in honour of family members, but the last four were patron saints of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales." Thus, George Andrew Patrick David would be a wonderful name for a boy!!

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Apparently, there has been a big run-up of bets in the last few days on the name Alexandra. "Many of the bets appeared to be coming in from Berkshire, the county that houses royal residence Windsor Castle." Do they know something? "Elizabeth, Diana and Victoria are close behind, following widespread speculation that the royal couple's first child will be a girl."

I also found this very interesting:
Edward VIII, who abdicated in 1936, was christened Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David - the first names were in honour of family members, but the last four were patron saints of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Thus, George Andrew Patrick David would be a wonderful name for a boy!!

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And also county that Kate is from.
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Frideswide, I don't know for sure about Madeleine or Matilda being shortened to Maud.
I just heard that, concerning Madeleine, it came about this way: In the middle ages,
there were pageants showing the life and death of Christ, and in them Mary Magdelen was often portrayed as weeping and casting herself on the ground. This came to be called "Maudlin". That is, highly emotional, uncontrolled emotion. Mary Magdelen herself was sometimes referred to in literature of the period as "Maudlin."
In the Irish side of my family, our matriarch called every girl in the family Mary, if she for the moment forgot the name of her many daughters and sisters and aunts.
Mary became the more Irish Mamie. Thus, sometimes I was Mamie. Usually she remembered my "real" name (which was named after her) and so I became "Mamie..Mariel" when she spoke to me.
Likewise, Maud may be a catch-all name for all sorts of women, starting with those whose name begins with "M".
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Ah, I see your train of thought. Magdalen is pronounced Mawd-lin in certain contexts. It is the medieval pronunciation. Magdalen College in Oxford is pronounced that way, although Magdalen Road in the same city is not!

Still, I can only speak from experience, and I've never heard of a Madeleine being shortened to Maud. Perhaps in a scholarly household ....
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I just have to wonder how much of the conclusion that she is having a girl is based off of the "I'll give this to my daug---" hoax. It's been proven that she didn't say that.

In my mind it's still 50/50. It would be funny to see a boy just to throw all the betters for a curve.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:14 PM
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I just have to wonder how much of the conclusion that she is having a girl is based off of the "I'll give this to my daug---" hoax. It's been proven that she didn't say that.

In my mind it's still 50/50. It would be funny to see a boy just to throw all the betters for a curve.
It a hundred percent is and as such is rubbish but how in ever. If you put a beet on a boy at the moment you would make a fortune.
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