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Old 03-09-2013, 11:31 PM
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I actually think Charles wanted Arthur as Williams first name but, Diana liked William better. So, she obviously won that decision. But, at least his name ended up flowing well.
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I too remember hearing that Charles and Diana named William after Prince William of Gloucester. Have never heard anything about Charles wanting to name him Arthur, I think William got Arthur as one of his names because it's also one of the names of Charles and King George VI. I also think that if they baby is a boy, Arthur will be in there somewhere to continue that 'tradition'.
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Another name for a girl that would be definitely seen as a good regnal name would be Alberta. Personally I really don't care for the name and when one thinks about it, it could also be a nice salute to Canada. Maybe as a second name? Can't wait to find out what they actually do name the baby.
I agree, and if it's a boy, they can name him Edward, a salute to Prince Edward Island. Their dear friends the Beckhams can give them all the ins and outs on naming babies after places.

Alberta was named for Queen Victoria's daughter, Louise Caroline Alberta. I guess Victoria got so tired of naming the girls Victoria and the boys Albert, she wanted to change things up a bit.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:51 PM
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I thought that Diana wanted to name William John but had it nixed because it's a jinxed name. William was the backup name.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:54 PM
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I definitely believe that William is named after the cousin Prince William of Gloucester who Charles admired very much. Never heard about calling him Arthur as a first name, or about John.
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Do we know of any names that Diana said she liked? If so, this might be the first name of this baby.
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:08 AM
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I also never knew that about Charles wanting to name William Arthur.
My paternal grandfather's full name (first and middle) was William Arthur. He shared his birthday with the Queen, only she was four years younger. He and my grandma's second son (my dad) is named Robert Arthur; and his birthday is the next day. My dad's older brother is William Edgar (Edgar after their mother's father).
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This may sound like an obvious statement but I dont think history, superstitions, other monarchies and anything "global" will come into it.


Names they like, people they admire or love will be all that matter. Then they will check out how it sounds with "King/Queen". Because they are conservative (small c, not political) and "safe-hands" people, I dont think anyone will be shocked. Surprised is possible, but not shocked.


Parents, Grandparents (Peter as a 2ndry name after Catherine's grandfather, for example), siblings, godparents. They will be the sources.

I am going to be embarassed if they call the child Elton or Madonna !
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:17 AM
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This may sound like an obvious statement but I dont think history, superstitions, other monarchies and anything "global" will come into it.

Names they like, people they admire or love will be all that matter. Then they will check out how it sounds with "King/Queen". Because they are conservative (small c, not political) and "safe-hands" people, I dont think anyone will be shocked. Surprised is possible, but not shocked.

Parents, Grandparents (Peter as a 2ndry name after Catherine's grandfather, for example), siblings, godparents. They will be the sources.

I am going to be embarassed if they call the child Elton or Madonna !
I know it's about 10 years into the future seeing as I'm only 22 and my parents don't want to be grandparents right now, but my firstborn daughter will be Katherine Anne (middle name of course after the current Princess Royal!)
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Do we know of any names that Diana said she liked? If so, this might be the first name of this baby.
Oliver.....either after the musical Oliver Twist or from Love Story or her famous ancestor Cromwell. Anyway it was a non starter.
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Oliver.....either after the musical Oliver Twist or from Love Story or her famous ancestor Cromwell. Anyway it was a non starter.
I'm still laughing at the idea of a King Oliver....
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Oliver.....either after the musical Oliver Twist or from Love Story or her famous ancestor Cromwell. Anyway it was a non starter.
Not Oliver Hoare???
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Not Oliver Hoare???
Well she did try calling him but he wouldn't answer the phone
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Well she did try calling him but he wouldn't answer the phone
How about Julia for a girl?
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How about Julia for a girl?
I like the idea. It would sound decent with Princess/queen attached to it, and it works for a young child as well as an adult.
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I like the idea. It would sound decent with Princess/queen attached to it, and it works for a young child as well as an adult.
Princess Julia Caroline. Lovely name!
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:37 AM
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They may well choose some modern or non royal names such as Emma or Timothy, Ella or Oliver its not written in law that they have only the existing royal names both present and past to choose from. It will be interesting to see.
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They may well choose some modern or non royal names such as Emma or Timothy, Ella or Oliver its not written in law that they have only the existing royal names both present and past to choose from. It will be interesting to see.
It's not written in law, but these are traditional people. I also wouldn't be surprised if they're superstitious as well.

Historically, most of the "I" in the history of English/British monarchs have been people who weren't supposed to come to the throne - the younger brothers whose elder brothers died or who they usurped, the daughters who weren't ever supposed to inherit, or the cousins who came to the throne either through usurpation or a lack of an (adequate) heir. If I'm correct, in the history of England/Britain there have only been two monarchs with the designation of I that were born to their positions - Edward I and Charles I (and one of them ended up with his head cut off).

There's also an interesting tradition of Is not being succeeded by their children; of the 13 "official" Ist, 7 of them were succeeded by someone other than their own child, 8 if you include Charles I who was initially succeeded by Cromwell. Of the "unofficials", Matilda and Jane, it's a 1:1 ratio.

Also, since George I came to the throne, almost 300 years ago, there have only been 2 Ist (neither of whom were intended to inherit at birth). There were, I believe, 5 almost-Ists, 3 who died before their fathers, and 2 who chose to change his name - and of those 5 almosts, 1 was a girl and one was a younger son.

Just based on tradition and superstition alone, I can't really see them going non-traditional, at least not for the first born.
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"Rose" is an interesting memorial to Diana, who was called "England's Rose". I love the name Rose but is it too short for a Queen's name? Charlotte Rose is nice, Cepe. I don't know where the Rose name came from, which has had royal usage, as with Margaret Rose and Lady Rose Windsor.
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If I'm correct, in the history of England/Britain there have only been two monarchs with the designation of I that were born to their positions - Edward I and Charles I (and one of them ended up with his head cut off)..
Charles I was not a first born son either. His elder brother, Henry Frederick died of typhoid leaving him as heir to their father James I.
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