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Old 02-17-2013, 07:28 PM
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There has been a queen consort called Dorothea
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None of Catherine's grandparents are still alive. Mike's father Peter was the last to die right before the engagement was announced. William & Kate had to push back the announcement a couple of days due to his death. Peter was an RAF pilot in WWII and co-piloted an airplane with Prince Phillip on one of Phillip's tours in 50s or 60s.


If you look at everybody's names on both sides,


William Arthur Phillip Louis Henry Charles Albert David
Catherine Elizabeth Phillipa Charlotte James William


They are all traditional names. I would think there would be Elizabeth or Phillip in one of the names. I don't think Diana would be used as a first name. Fergie did the weird Victorian names with Beatrice or Eugenie. I like Phillip or Michael since both Phil and Mike get overshadowed by their wives.
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I notice two members on this thread have put up Margaret Rose as a possible but unlikely name. I like it a lot, too. I like the use of sweet Rose to end a more savory name, Margaret. I am partial to the Scots queen name of Margaret, and I do like Matilda too, as a name with Scots ties. Matilda Rose would also be a savory-sweet combination, and nicely "old fashioned". I suppose Margaret-Rose hasn't a big chance because of the recent existence of another Princess Margaret Rose.
I hear the name "Alexandra" a lot among current royals and I think it is getting a little too common to qualify for a new-old name, although of course it's very royal.
I too think that naming a Princess after her mom would be fine. Remember there would need to be a nick name because of the mother having the name Catherine too.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:44 PM
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I think that it's a virtual certainty that the first given name of the Cambridge baby will be the name of a former English Sovereign (post- Norman Conquest.) That gives us the following: William, Henry, Stephen, Richard, John, Edward, George, Charles and James for boys and Mary, Elizabeth, Anne or Victoria for girls. If you include the other Scottish Kings that adds Kenneth, Donald, Constantine, Alexander, David, Edgar, Duncan, Robert, Malcolm, MacBeth (and Lulach, Giric, Eochaid, Indulf, Dubh, and Cullen). I don't see them using either Stephen or John (both horrible Kings) and Richard has been unlucky as well as all three died well before their times after somewhat disturbed reigns. The more exotic Scottish names would seem to be non-starters also. Henry, Edward, Anne and James are in current use close to the throne (as are Charles and Elizabeth, but neither of those would surprise me.) I just don't see them choosing a name that hasn't been used by a Sovereign before, so no Catherine, Charlotte, Diana, Carole (or Caroline) Margaret, Alexandra, Arthur, Albert, Michael, or Philip - at least not as first names. Baby Cambridge will have a very traditional Sovereign's name, I can almost guarantee it. We'll just have to wait and see what it is.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:14 PM
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I think that it's a virtual certainty that the first given name of the Cambridge baby will be the name of a former English Sovereign (post- Norman Conquest.) That gives us the following: William, Henry, Stephen, Richard, John, Edward, George, Charles and James for boys and Mary, Elizabeth, Anne or Victoria for girls. If you include the other Scottish Kings that adds Kenneth, Donald, Constantine, Alexander, David, Edgar, Duncan, Robert, Malcolm, MacBeth (and Lulach, Giric, Eochaid, Indulf, Dubh, and Cullen). I don't see them using either Stephen or John (both horrible Kings) and Richard has been unlucky as well as all three died well before their times after somewhat disturbed reigns. The more exotic Scottish names would seem to be non-starters also. Henry, Edward, Anne and James are in current use close to the throne (as are Charles and Elizabeth, but neither of those would surprise me.) I just don't see them choosing a name that hasn't been used by a Sovereign before, so no Catherine, Charlotte, Diana, Carole (or Caroline) Margaret, Alexandra, Arthur, Albert, Michael, or Philip - at least not as first names. Baby Cambridge will have a very traditional Sovereign's name, I can almost guarantee it. We'll just have to wait and see what it is.
I'm with you on this. I can see the first name of a boy being George, Charles, or even Richard (it's both a kingly name and one that's been used other times by Royals, including the current Duke of Gloucester). John won't happen because it's viewed as cursed - Prince John's tend to not do well. For a girl, I'd say Mary, Elizabeth, or Victoria.

If it's a girl and her first name is Diana I kind of feel sorry for her. Those are really big shoes to fill in. Also, it's kind of a slap in the face to Charles and Camilla. It should be in there somewhere, but not as the first name.
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Sounds like a rather nasty ailment involving a lavatory!!!
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:04 PM
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Girl:
Charlotte Frances Elizabeth Jane

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Old 02-20-2013, 12:53 PM
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Well we can rule out Hilary.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:10 PM
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I think it's almost certain that either Frances or Elizabeth will be in the name if it's a girl. I'd like to see something classical in her name, maybe something like Joan, Helen, or really out there - Cleopatra? (okay, that's one too far). Carole might be there; I can't see Camilla or Rosemary being included, although Rose (From Princess Margaret) may be nice.

A boy will probably have Philip as a name. I just can't think of many names other that the typical George, Louis, Arthur, etc... Michael may be in there.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:20 PM
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Of course we will see these names among the baby names :Elizabeth,Diana for girl and Charles,Philip for boy...I expect a modern first name for the baby.
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Of course we will see these names among the baby names :Elizabeth,Diana for girl and Charles,Philip for boy...I expect a modern first name for the baby.
Just what exactly is a "modern" name? Blue Ivy?
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I know no one with a so called modern name!
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:18 PM
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Of course we will see these names among the baby names :Elizabeth,Diana for girl and Charles,Philip for boy...I expect a modern first name for the baby.
I don't know what you expect with more modern: Elizabeth, Charles, and Philip are still relatively common names, and one of the main trends of the moment is to revive old fashioned names.

Still, I think William and Kate will be sticking to tradition regardless.
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isnt Savannah, Paige, Chris, modern names? i think a "modern" name is a name more in use today, taditional and old names usually are historical or not so common nowadays (but used to be in the past). well, just my thought.

Blue Ivy and lots of hideous names from Celebrities kids, doesnt fit in any category, they are all crazy, hideous and made-up just for show, they want to be diferent and original, but the outcome is disastrous.
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[QUOTE=kathia_sophia;1519357]isnt i think a "modern" name is a name more in use today, taditional and old names usually are historical or not so common nowadays (but used to be in the past). well, just my thought.

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Actually I think traditional or old names are very much in vogue now. Other than footballers, pop stars and actors I don't know too many people who go for very oddball names for their children.
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Interesting debate on what is modern and what is not. To while away the time whilst I was working out my access probs to this site, ~I looked up the 1st names of babies announced in THe Times since 5th February (date chosen because I was getting bored). In the lists are some interesting results!

BOYS

Alexander, Humphrey, Roly, Ludovic, Henry, William, Harry, Arthur,
Jack (2), Harper (2) !!!!!!, Oliver, Frederick (2), Fergus, Dylan, Edward, George, Theodore, Angus, Toby

GIRLS
Rose, Flora (3) !!!!, Anastasia (50 shades reader??), Florence, Lavinia, Minerva, Scarlett, Audrey, Elizabeth,Sophie, Victoria and Cora.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:40 PM
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Also, for those who are interested in current naming trends, if you google something like "most popular baby names UK", you'll find lists of the most popular names, year by year.

Thanks for sharing those names, cepe - very interesting to see what people are using.
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Of course we will see these names among the baby names :Elizabeth,Diana for girl and Charles,Philip for boy...I expect a modern first name for the baby.
I don't think there is an "of course" about it.
While the names will be traditional and will probably honour family members, the names you list may or may not be used.
Yes I think William will honour his mother in some way but I think HM will counsel he and Kate against using Diana becasue it does come with so much baggage.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:49 PM
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As I said above, I'm 99.9999% sure the first name will be that of a former British Sovereign. No "trendy" or "modern" names need apply. They're naming a future monarch, not a pop star.
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I think some of you are forgetting this child will be the future monarch. Peter and Autumn Philips can name their daughters Savannah and Isla because they have no titles and will never be Queen. The idea of William and Catherine giving their child any name other than one that's been used by future monarchs in the past is just silliness. Modern names are nice, and can be very dignified, but you're not going to see a Queen Ashley or King Derek, no matter how popular those names might be.
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