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Old 08-04-2013, 03:16 PM
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What do you call Savannah or Isla?

I don't know about normal, but they are definitely not traditional.
Savannah and Isla are not royal, that's why I said I'm yet to see a bizarre and odd name on a Royal children, BUT speaking only on the names they might not be traditional but they're "normal", for me normal is not a name like a fruit, direction or a fiction charater.

Savannah, Isla, Zaria, Luana just to name a few, are normal names that are not hideous, horrid, bizarre and odd like most of the celebrity's kids.
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Old 08-04-2013, 03:47 PM
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Princess Victoria must have been hooked on the personality of Estelle Bernadotte, who did have an outstanding life. Her husband was a UN representative and was killed in a plane crash. After that she was really active in charity work during the long time she lived after he died. She often traveled with him but had not been on that plane that crashed. They had two nice looking tall boys but I forget their names. She was like Princess Lilian, accepted by the royal family because she was nice, loyal, charming, and courageous. So I think that is the entire reason why Victoria named the little girl Estelle. If she has another daughter it may be Lilian. It seems she had a happy marriage (Estelle) and Victoria held that up as a grand thing to have.
Count Folke Bernadotte did not die in a plane crash. He was killed by people who were then considered Jewish terrorists in Palestine but after the founding if the state of Isreal were considered founding fathers / statesmen/ future PMs and Presidents.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:02 PM
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Count Folke Bernadotte did not die in a plane crash. He was killed by people who were then considered Jewish terrorists in Palestine but after the founding if the state of Isreal were considered founding fathers / statesmen/ future PMs and Presidents.
Oh, poor palestinians, they are such a peaceful people. The Jews were only trying to get their land back.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:06 PM
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I think the Palestine/Israel situation is a little more complicated than that.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:10 PM
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I think the Palestine/Israel situation is a little more complicated than that.
I agree. But I can't stand people attacking my people and Israel.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:38 PM
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I agree. But I can't stand people attacking my people and Israel.
None of this has anything to do with Prince George of Cambridge. I was simply stating how Count Folke actually died, and pointing out a historical fact. History is written by the victors so at some point one may be a terrorist and if the terrorist wins they become founding fathers of a nation, statesmen etc. If they lose well then they remain just members of a terrorist movement. This applies in any nation that has fought a revolution or war to attain its independence from another nation.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:55 PM
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I'm late as usual, but I love how Charles said that George was gonna be Georgie in no time

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Oh, poor palestinians, they are such a peaceful people. The Jews were only trying to get their land back.
Their land and their land, I think that can be argued.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:06 PM
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You guys seriously need to get back in topic. There is no reason to debate an issue as heated as this one in this thread or any other thread on the Royal forum.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:21 PM
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Look, everyone likes one name or another. Otherwise, we would all have the same names. Folke Bernadotte was a good man, caught in crummy circumstances. How this got here, I do not understand. Isla and Savannah, are not royal or portend to be. Luana and Zaria have other first names, and are not in line for anything. They are just darling children. Let us leave this go.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:30 PM
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Thanks for the correction about how Count Bernadotte died. I didn't know. I was just thinking about how his wife was a considerable woman whom Princess Victoria took as a role model (probably, I don't know for sure why she chose Estelle for her daughter's name. Lots of things I don't know, but merely surmise).

Yes I think Charles is RIGHT ON, when he says George will become Georgie soon.
Of course! Charles is a wise old owl.
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Yes I think Charles is RIGHT ON, when he says George will become Georgie soon.
Of course! Charles is a wise old owl.
Some did that to my son when he was little, tried calling him Scottie.

I soon put a stop to that by snarling His name's Scott! at any luckless person who tried it.

(Another thing that works is training a child to ignore all diminutives. I had a friend named Suzanne who simply did not respond to anyone who called her Suzy or Susan. It always went "oh. are you talking to me? I didn't realize, because my name's Suzanne." Simple, and effective!)
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:32 PM
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Most "celebrities" do not name their children hideous names. The ones who choose odd names like Apple or Rumour get a lot of publicity, but they are not the norm. "Billy" and "Lilac" (for example) are not exactly unheard of, certainly Lilac is no more unusual than Zara.

As to nicknames, I tried to make the point earlier that they can come about without an official announcement - but stick just as strongly. I'm sure that Prince George will remain so in public and in public announcements, but Prince Charles has all but given the media the instruction to use "Georgie" if they wish. I wonder if he feels the name needs to be softened a bit for a baby's use?

Since I associate George with many different, wonderful people who were definitely young at the time I formed an impression of them, it's not an "old" name to me.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:14 PM
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Oh, poor palestinians, they are such a peaceful people. The Jews were only trying to get their land back.
We have a similar situation over here. About 20 minutes to the south of where I live is a town called Caledonia, which is near a native reserve. About 7 years ago, long story short, they were going to build a housing development, but the natives stepped in and told the developers that the land they were building on was theirs. It's gotten pretty messy at times.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:24 AM
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Most "celebrities" do not name their children hideous names. The ones who choose odd names like Apple or Rumour get a lot of publicity, but they are not the norm. "Billy" and "Lilac" (for example) are not exactly unheard of, certainly Lilac is no more unusual than Zara.
Do we live in the same world?

North, Apple, Duncan Zowie Haywood Jones, Quincy, Blue Ivy, Maxwell, Kal-el, Rosalind Arusha Arkadina Altalune Florence, Pilot Inspektor, Fifi Trixibelle, Kyd, Sage Moonblood, Memphis, Ocean, Rocket, Blue Angel, Audio Science, Moon Unit, Diva Thin Muffi, Moxie Crimefighter, Tu Morrow, Jermajesty, Little Pixie Frou-Frou Geldof, Heavenly Hiraani Tiger Lily, Diezel Ky, Racer, Yamma, Speck, Pirate, Alabama Gypsy Rose, Petal Blossom Rainbow, Bamboo, Calico, Lyric Angel, Buddy Bear, Poet, Ace Knute, Zuma Nesta Rock, Bogart Che Peyote, Princess Tiaamii, Banjo, Speck Wildhorse, Rebel, Seven, Camera, Mars Merkaba, Free, Bronx Mowgli, Hero...just to name a few.


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Old 08-06-2013, 05:52 AM
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I don't think Maxwell is all that unusual - I have taught at least 20 Maxwell's. We currently have at least a dozen in our school of about 300 boys (and about 350 girls) so about 4% of the boys are named Maxwell. We have more Maxwell's for instance than William's.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:24 AM
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Some did that to my son when he was little, tried calling him Scottie.

I soon put a stop to that by snarling His name's Scott! at any luckless person who tried it.

(Another thing that works is training a child to ignore all diminutives. I had a friend named Suzanne who simply did not respond to anyone who called her Suzy or Susan. It always went "oh. are you talking to me? I didn't realize, because my name's Suzanne." Simple, and effective!)
That is fine as long as it was genuinely Suzanne's preference. I would hope that she felt free to be called by a diminutive if she so chose. I think it wrong to impose your preferences on a child. It is the child's name, not the parent's.

Considerate parents give their children names that allow them a degree of choice. I was not so fortunate - I was given a name that is a diminutive of a longer traditional name (something like Beth instead of Elizabeth). I dislike my name, and have always wished that my parents had given me the full name, which has various other short forms and nicknames.
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:56 AM
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Maxwell is the list because it refers a girl not a boy (Jessica Simpson)
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:08 AM
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I like Maxwell/Max, but not for a girl.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:17 AM
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Considerate parents give their children names that allow them a degree of choice. I was not so fortunate - I was given a name that is a diminutive of a longer traditional name (something like Beth instead of Elizabeth). I dislike my name, and have always wished that my parents had given me the full name, which has various other short forms and nicknames.
I also dislike nicknames, full names are way more beautiful than it's nicknames. I like the name Beatriz but in my country 99% of the girls named Beatriz are called Bia, which I hate, it's so horrible!
I think the only name I like for nickname and that I would not mind to call that to my daughter is Bella for Isabella. I think it's one of the few nicknames that I like (the other I like is Kate but if a girl is named Catherine, she should be called that, Catherine is way more beautiful)
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I also dislike nicknames, full names are way more beautiful than it's nicknames. I like the name Beatriz but in my country 99% of the girls named Beatriz are called Bia, which I hate, it's so horrible!
I think the only name I like for nickname and that I would not mind to call that to my daughter is Bella for Isabella. I think it's one of the few nicknames that I like (the other I like is Kate but if a girl is named Catherine, she should be called that, Catherine is way more beautiful)
Catherine is a beautiful name, but if someone prefers to be called Kate or Kathy, than that is okay too. One of my nieces, when she was two years old, went on a campaign to be called by her nickname without any prodding from her parents. If someone called her "xy" and she would say "I like "y" Interestingly enough, she introduces herself as xy now.
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