The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #761  
Old 04-05-2013, 02:25 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Rio de Janeiro and Petrópolis, Brazil
Posts: 1,124
Didn't King George VI vetoed "Anne" when the Duke and Duchess of York were deciding Princess Margaret's name?

Maybe the Royal Veto doesn't exist anymore, but was used in the past.
__________________

__________________
  #762  
Old 04-05-2013, 02:57 PM
LadyGabrielle's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: kapaa, United States
Posts: 1,148
I guess I can see the positive point in having veto power. I would be highly in favor of putting my foot down if the child were to named something absolutely rediculous. I do wonder if there are certain names that are on the "out of the question" list. I think the use of traditional royal names is great but, it would be nice to see a future monarch with a fresh name. Maybe it would not be so bad to have a "Queen Frances" or " Queen Emma". Sometimes change can be a good thing and since this will be a modern monarchy, why not? But alas, I doubt anyone will deviate from tradition too much since, afterall, we are talking about the British monarchy.
__________________

__________________
  #763  
Old 04-05-2013, 03:00 PM
scooter's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: katonah, United States
Posts: 2,287
Something ridiculous like Isla or Savannah?
__________________
  #764  
Old 04-05-2013, 03:05 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Rio de Janeiro and Petrópolis, Brazil
Posts: 1,124
One day, this baby will be the British Monarch, his/her name will be on History books.

I'm 100% sure the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will be very tradional, at least with the first name.

The names with more chances to be choosen as first names, in my opinion, are:

Boys names -

George.
Edward.
Arthur.
Henry.
James.
Philip.
William.
Michael.
Richard.
Stephen.

Girls names:

Elizabeth.
Victoria.
Charlotte.
Anne.
Mary.
Catherine.
Alexandra.
Margaret.
Eleonor.
Rose.
__________________
  #765  
Old 04-05-2013, 03:06 PM
Dman's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 6,423
Video:
Kate Middleton Spills Pregnancy Secrets:
Kate Middleton Spills Pregnancy Secrets | ABC News Blogs - Yahoo!

Very nice video of Charles, William & Catherine talking and having a good time.
__________________
  #766  
Old 04-05-2013, 03:08 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Rio de Janeiro and Petrópolis, Brazil
Posts: 1,124
Quote:
Originally Posted by scooter View Post
Something ridiculous like Isla or Savannah?
There's a huge difference between naming the 13th and 14th in the Line of Succession, and naming someone who will be the 3th in direct line to succeed.
__________________
  #767  
Old 04-05-2013, 03:44 PM
Dman's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 6,423
Baby's birthday will be in July. Just imagine when she/he get older, the kid along with friends will take off into the night and party like it's 1999.
__________________
  #768  
Old 04-05-2013, 03:51 PM
Courtier
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Waterford, United States
Posts: 868
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumutqueen View Post
Nonsense that she has it.



Yes because clearly past royal children have shown a lot of parents choosing fifi trixiebelle and Brooklyn yes? Royals have enough common sense to know who their own children are, naming them something stupid isn't going to happen. Veto power or not.
Perhaps from now on I will have to advise when I am making a small joke.

Of course, they are not going to use a ridiculous name. There may be, however, ordinary-seeming names to which HM might object, and I won't bother to speculate what those names might be.
And whether there is a 'legal' or 'traditional' veto, it's certain that the parents would respond to an objection from the Queen.
__________________
  #769  
Old 04-05-2013, 03:57 PM
Lumutqueen's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlton, York, United Kingdom
Posts: 17,090
Quote:
Originally Posted by scooter View Post
Something ridiculous like Isla or Savannah?
Neither Isla or Savannah are ridiculous names. Isla is especially beautiful. However they are not suitable if you put Princess in front of them. Neither Isla nor Savannah hold royal titles and are far enough down the line of succesion for Peter and Autumn to pick names they like and have to consider its consequences.
__________________
We Will Remember Them.
  #770  
Old 04-05-2013, 05:03 PM
scooter's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: katonah, United States
Posts: 2,287
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrazilianEmpire View Post
One day, this baby will be the British Monarch, his/her name will be on History books.

I'm 100% sure the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will be very tradional, at least with the first name.

The names with more chances to be choosen as first names, in my opinion, are:

Boys names -

George.
Edward.
Arthur.
Henry.
James.
Philip.
William.
Michael.
Richard.
Stephen.

Girls names:

Elizabeth.
Victoria.
Charlotte.
Anne.
Mary.
Catherine.
Alexandra.
Margaret.
Eleonor.
Rose.
I cant quite see Queen Rose myself.
__________________
  #771  
Old 04-05-2013, 05:55 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Rio de Janeiro and Petrópolis, Brazil
Posts: 1,124
Quote:
Originally Posted by scooter View Post
I cant quite see Queen Rose myself.
Yes, I don't know why I put "Rose" in the list, maybe I was thinking about Princess Margaret.

Maybe Adelaide is a best choise than Rose.
__________________
  #772  
Old 04-05-2013, 06:22 PM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Posts: 236
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumutqueen View Post
Nonsense that she has it.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that HM has a formal power of veto, but I do believe that if she had reservations about a particular name, she would make that known. And that in such a case, her children or grandchildren would respect her feelings. I do not think this should be dismissed as nonsense.
__________________
  #773  
Old 04-05-2013, 06:35 PM
Molly2101's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: England, United Kingdom
Posts: 2,548
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariel View Post
When Beatrice and Eugenie were born, I read that the parents wanted to call one of them Sophia. But the queen vetoed it. I also read that the Queen consulted with foreign royals about the name. Maybe that much consultation will not be in effect this time. I do not know why the queen object to "Sophia". I do not think Sophie Wessex was in the picture at that time.
Didn't Sarah want to call Beatrice, Annabel but the name was said to not be approved of by the Queen? I did not hear of the dislike to Sophia and no Sophie was not in Edward's life then. She came into the picture in 1993.

I do believe the Queen does have a say over the name choices, but I don't think she can "veto" any choices as such. As Lumutqueen said, the Royals have common sense to know that if their child is 2nd or 3rd in line to the throne they need a "traditional" name if they ever needed to use it.
__________________
"I am yours, you are mine, of that be sure. You are locked in my heart, the little key is lost and now you must stay there forever."
Written by Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in the diary of her fiance, Tsarevich Nicholas.
  #774  
Old 04-05-2013, 07:14 PM
Countessmeout's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: alberta, Canada
Posts: 348
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariel View Post
When Beatrice and Eugenie were born, I read that the parents wanted to call one of them Sophia. But the queen vetoed it. I also read that the Queen consulted with foreign royals about the name. Maybe that much consultation will not be in effect this time. I do not know why the queen object to "Sophia". I do not think Sophie Wessex was in the picture at that time.
I never heard Sophia, and I doubt she consults with foreign royals, if only by simple fact they have little to do with the continentals except weddings and funerals. I know andy and Sarah wanted the name Annabelle, and that was vetoed.

I think they can chose a traditional name, without picking something over used. There are a lot of beautiful royal names tat have not been over used, in the BRF royal tree.
__________________
  #775  
Old 04-05-2013, 07:24 PM
Archduchess Zelia's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 1,942
Unless they're planning on naming their baby something absolutely ridiculous like Princess Rainbow or Prince Jayden, I doubt HM is gonna intervene too much in the whole naming process. However, I do think that William and Catherine have realised that their baby is the heir and needs rather traditional name.
__________________
"In spite of the many initiatives our society offers to help and support, recovery can be such a monumental task that some give up.
They withdraw into themselves. Not least during Christmas and New Year is it hard to feel left out. Tonight my thoughts are with them."

— Queen Margrethe II of Denmark directly addressing people suffering from depression and loneliness in her 2011 New Years address.

  #776  
Old 04-05-2013, 07:41 PM
Sister Morphine's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North Carolina, United States
Posts: 2,725
Quote:
Originally Posted by scooter View Post
Something ridiculous like Isla or Savannah?
How are those names ridiculous? Furthermore, what do the names of children who will never be monarch have to do with what William and Catherine decide to name their child? Obviously Peter and Autumn have more leeway than the Cambridges do and can be non-traditional.
__________________
"The grass was greener / The light was brighter / The taste was sweeter / The nights of wonder / With friends surrounded / The dawn mist glowing / The water flowing / The endless river / Forever and ever........ "
  #777  
Old 04-05-2013, 09:10 PM
scooter's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: katonah, United States
Posts: 2,287
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Morphine View Post

How are those names ridiculous? Furthermore, what do the names of children who will never be monarch have to do with what William and Catherine decide to name their child? Obviously Peter and Autumn have more leeway than the Cambridges do and can be non-traditional.
The point was veto power of names of grandchildren by the sovereign. I personally like names that are places like savannah, but Seriously) would Princess Isla work for any if you?
__________________
  #778  
Old 04-05-2013, 09:20 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Rio de Janeiro and Petrópolis, Brazil
Posts: 1,124
Quote:
Originally Posted by scooter View Post
The point was veto power of names of grandchildren by the sovereign. I personally like names that are places like savannah, but Seriously) would Princess Isla work for any if you?
No, Princesses Savannah and Isla would never have happened. But that's the point, they are too far from the Throne, so, Peter and Autumn had more freedom to choose anything they liked to name the girls.

On the other hand, the Queen vetoed Annabel for Princess Beatrice, because she was the 5th in the Line of Succession. Cambridge Baby is the future Monarch, I'm sure Her Majesty will have a say in Baby's name.
__________________
  #779  
Old 04-05-2013, 09:35 PM
GracieGiraffe's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Giraffe Land, United States
Posts: 1,526
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrazilianEmpire View Post
No, Princesses Savannah and Isla would never have happened. But that's the point, they are too far from the Throne, so, Peter and Autumn had more freedom to choose anything they liked to name the girls.

On the other hand, the Queen vetoed Annabel for Princess Beatrice, because she was the 5th in the Line of Succession. Cambridge Baby is the future Monarch, I'm sure Her Majesty will have a say in Baby's name.
I have the feeling that this veto power for names is for children who will be HRH's. Notice that Peter and Zara have "non-royal" names (although Peter might pass muster) but the children of the sons have very traditional royal names (even Edward's).

As for the Queen vetoing "Sophia" I doubt that. Sophia is a royal name, and has been given to princesses born into the family before. George III's daughter was the last one. I doubt she would veto on personal preference, but would only step in on suitability.
__________________
The future George VII's opinion on infant carriers,
"One is not amused."
  #780  
Old 04-05-2013, 09:40 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Rio de Janeiro and Petrópolis, Brazil
Posts: 1,124
Quote:
Originally Posted by GracieGiraffe View Post
I have the feeling that this veto power for names is for children who will be HRH's. Notice that Peter and Zara have "non-royal" names (although Peter might pass muster) but the children of the sons have very traditional royal names (even Edward's).
Exactly, Gracie.

The Monarch's veto power is only for people who will be HRH.
__________________

__________________
Closed Thread

Tags
baby gifts, prince william and duchess of cambridge


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Zara Phillips and Mike Tindall Wedding Suggestions and Musings Thread Zonk The Princess Royal and Family 480 07-30-2011 08:59 AM




Additional Links
Popular Tags
birth charlene chris o'neill crown prince frederik crown prince haakon crown princess letizia crown princess mary crown princess mette-marit crown princess victoria current events fashion genealogy grand duchess maria teresa grand duke henri hohenzollern infanta sofia jordan king abdullah ii king albert ii king carl xvi gustav king felipe king felipe vi king harald king juan carlos king philippe king willem-alexander luxembourg olympics ottoman picture of the month pom pregnancy prince albert prince albert ii prince carl philip prince constantijn prince felipe prince floris prince laurent prince pieter-christiaan princess princess alexia (2005 -) princess anita princess ariane princess beatrix princess catharina-amalia princess charlene princess claire princess haya princess laurentien princess letizia princess mabel princess madeleine princess margriet princess marie princess mary queen letizia queen mathilde queen maxima queen paola queen rania queen silvia queen sofia royal russia sofia hellqvist spain state visit wedding william


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:55 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014
Jelsoft Enterprises

Royal News Delivered to your Email!

You can get the latest Royal News right in your inbox.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]