Catherine Middleton Wedding Tiara suggestions and musings

[Aestheticus Rex]

Originally Posted by EmpressRouge

So it looks like Hello! magazine has finally jumped on the bandwagon in trying predict a tiara for Miss Middleton. Unfortunately, the seemed to just rip off People magazine's list (and some of the pictures) and (horrors!) mislabeled the Grand Duchess Vladimir as the Cambridge lover's knot! I would have expected an American magazine to make mistakes like that but not one who follows the monarchy as closely as Hello! And like the People magazine spread, most of these pieces are very unlikely to be bestowed on Catherine given they already have frequent wearers.
Which royal tiara will Kate Middleton wear on her wedding day?

Ugh! Do people even bother to do research. Camilla has be wearing the Delhi Durbar so it is off the table. And why on earth would they include the spencer tiara or Sophie of Wessex or Fergie's tiara's? They belong to their owners and are not in play....infuriating.

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Aestheticus Rex: A Tale of Tiara's: What will the Queen bestow upon Kate Middleton?

[branchg]

Originally Posted by ThePrincessRoyal

Could Catherine have a tiara made? Such as for an event or function. Actually another question i've always had is, can any member of the royal house (I am pretty sure the Queen can right?) have a tiara "made" or does a more historic tiara get "re-vamped" so to speak?

Both possibilities have occurred in the past.

Sarah Ferguson received a new tiara ordered by The Queen from Garrard's as a wedding gift when she married The Duke of York.

Sophie Rhys-Jones received a tiara that was remodeled by Garrard's using elements of an old circlet of Queen Victoria's that was in the vaults when she married The Earl of Wessex.

Camilla Parker-Bowles received the Delhi Durbar tiara, which was created for Queen Mary to her order by Garrard's for the Durbar ceremony in India. Originally a closed diadem worn on the top of the head, it was opened up and remodeled as a tiara for Camilla.

Tiaras can be made brand-new or old ones can be remodeled or repaired if the stones are good enough to be worth the expense of resetting them.

[ThePrincessRoyal]

Awesome, thanks for the answer !

[Aestheticus Rex]

Great!! Also the 19th century Poltimore tiara was procured for Margaret's wedding. A beautiful antique tiara could be purchased for Kate either at auction or through a dealer.

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[jemagre]

Bit off topic but I thought I read in one of the tiara books (fields or munns) that Sarah requested that a tiara be bought for her. Anyone have any information?

[Duchessmary]

Honestly, no I don't recall where Sarah asked for a new tiara. I think it was probably time to bring a new one into the mix, and now her daughters can wear it someday. Sarah can be overbearing, but this would take a lot of nerve.

[jemagre]

Originally Posted by Duchessmary

Honestly, no I don't recall where Sarah asked for a new tiara. I think it was probably time to bring a new one into the mix, and now her daughters can wear it someday. Sarah can be overbearing, but this would take a lot of nerve.

Okay. I thought they gave her a choice but it has been awhile since I have read the books so I could be wrong.

[jcbcode99]

Originally Posted by jemagre

Bit off topic but I thought I read in one of the tiara books (fields or munns) that Sarah requested that a tiara be bought for her. Anyone have any information?

It was in Menckes. I don't have it in front of me, but I'll get the exact quote tomorrow.

[Taree]

The Scroll Tiara, the ear-rings are indeed perfect for Catherine. They would suit her. I dont know about the necklace for the wedding, but perfect for a more formal occasion as her set. I'd love to see her with that entire set. She'd look fantastic. Problem solved. What's to say against it?

[jcbcode99]

I think the scroll tiara is a strong contender as well.

[Taree]

This is a very interesting thread, but I am dismayed that it is beginning to resemble the ABBA song, The winner takes it all.
Let's not heap everything on Catherine. She will have the use of/inherit a great deal of jewellery, so I think Harry's bride needs to be taken into consideration and not just get to wear the leftovers or what Catherine doesn't want. She could be an aristocrat, or a royal or a county gel. Whoever she is she needs to be considered. Or she could be Chelsy!!

Taree

[wymanda]

Originally Posted by Taree

The Scroll Tiara, the ear-rings are indeed perfect for Catherine. They would suit her. I dont know about the necklace for the wedding, but perfect for a more formal occasion as her set. I'd love to see her with that entire set. She'd look fantastic. Problem solved. What's to say against it?

If we are still talking about Frances Shand-Kydd's earings that Diana wore at her wedding we have know idea who inherited them or even if they still exist within the family. They could have been broken up or sold. Since Diana died before her mother I would say that they went to either Lady Jane or Lady Sarah so more than likely would not be available for Catherine.
As I have said before, the relationship between the royal family and the Spencers became very strained after Diana's funeral (thanks to Earl Spencer) so I can't see HM countenancing going cap in hand for pieces of jewellery when the BRF has so much.

[Britters]

Has the Londonderry Tiara been mentioned? Is it even available? I only recently stumbled across it in a search for other tiaras in the British vaults... beautiful piece!

[jcbcode99]

Originally Posted by Britters

Has the Londonderry Tiara been mentioned? Is it even available? I only recently stumbled across it in a search for other tiaras in the British vaults... beautiful piece!

The Londonderry title was created back in 1789 for the Baron of Londonderry and it eventually became the Marquis of Londonderry. There have been nine Marquis' of Londonderry. The tiara belongs to the Londonderry family and is not considered to be part of the vast number of jewels owned by Queen Elizabeth II. There are many families in Great Britain who own substantial jewels--the Queen doesn't have a monopoly on fantastic and important pieces. There are WONDERFUL pieces out there and I encourage you to explore this site: Mountbatten Battenberg Juwelen
Ursula (creator and owner of site) has meticulously catalogued the jewels of many of the titled families, including the Dukes of Albany, Argyll, Connaught, Gloucester (cousins of QEII), Harewood (cousins of QEII), Kent (cousins of QEII), Westminster (GORGEOUS COLLECTION OF TIARAS), the families of the children of Queen Victoria, the wedding gifts of Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, Queen Elizabeth II, etc.... I think you will enjoy what else there is to offer in England!

[jemagre]

Originally Posted by Taree

This is a very interesting thread, but I am dismayed that it is beginning to resemble the ABBA song, The winner takes it all.
Let's not heap everything on Catherine. She will have the use of/inherit a great deal of jewellery, so I think Harry's bride needs to be taken into consideration and not just get to wear the leftovers or what Catherine doesn't want. She could be an aristocrat, or a royal or a county gel. Whoever she is she needs to be considered. Or she could be Chelsy!!

Taree

I couldn't agree more.

[MRSJ]

Originally Posted by Taree

This is a very interesting thread, but I am dismayed that it is beginning to resemble the ABBA song, The winner takes it all.
Let's not heap everything on Catherine. She will have the use of/inherit a great deal of jewellery, so I think Harry's bride needs to be taken into consideration and not just get to wear the leftovers or what Catherine doesn't want. She could be an aristocrat, or a royal or a county gel. Whoever she is she needs to be considered. Or she could be Chelsy!!

Taree

Actually I think there is a thread for that- :)

[MARG]

Originally Posted by branchg

Camilla Parker-Bowles received the Delhi Durbar tiara, which was created for Queen Mary to her order by Garrard's for the Durbar ceremony in India. Originally a closed diadem worn on the top of the head, it was opened up and remodeled as a tiara for Camilla.

Diana had the use of her family tiara and thus did not need one for her wedding. Both Sarah and Sophie obviously needed one as they did not have a family one to draw on. Both tiara's are and will remain theirs.

Camilla Parker-Bowles received nothing! The Duchess of Cornwall received the Delhi Durbar to wear at her first State Banquet. It was not a wedding gift and whilst she has the use of it for life, it still belongs to the BRF collection as indeed does the Bucheron.

I am appalled that members of this forum, who should know better, can have wild fancies that would see even the Queen divested of her favourite tiara(s) should they take Catherine's fancy! This isn't a lollie scramble at a kids party and Kate will definitely not be appearing inappropriately bejewelled.

Bottom line. It is pretty well accepted that she will receive a tiara for her wedding and use thereafter. It will more likely be something like the Strathmore Rose (an absolute "gem" and historically well worth Restoration for an occasion such as this) or the Scroll if Anne has no further use for it. Further than that, at this moment she has no use for more than one and certainly not one of great import like the Girls of Great Britain or the Vladimir. When would she wear them? For dusting the furniture or weeding the flower beds? Her future husband has yet to attend any State "Tiara" events and with his flying schedule I don't think we will see it any time soon.

[firebee34]

All the more reason why she should get a new one IMO. There is plenty of time to dust off the strathmore, scroll, or rose and crescent later. While I love the cambridge lovers knot, I just think it would be to much Diana to soon.

[wymanda]

Originally Posted by marg

diana had the use of her family tiara and thus did not need one for her wedding. Both sarah and sophie obviously needed one as they did not have a family one to draw on. Both tiara's are and will remain theirs.

Camilla parker-bowles received nothing! The duchess of cornwall received the delhi durbar to wear at her first state banquet. It was not a wedding gift and whilst she has the use of it for life, it still belongs to the brf collection as indeed does the bucheron.

I am appalled that members of this forum, who should know better, can have wild fancies that would see even the queen divested of her favourite tiara(s) should they take catherine's fancy! This isn't a lollie scramble at a kids party and kate will definitely not be appearing inappropriately bejewelled.

Bottom line. It is pretty well accepted that she will receive a tiara for her wedding and use thereafter. It will more likely be something like the strathmore rose (an absolute "gem" and historically well worth restoration for an occasion such as this) or the scroll if anne has no further use for it. Further than that, at this moment she has no use for more than one and certainly not one of great import like the girls of great britain or the vladimir. When would she wear them? For dusting the furniture or weeding the flower beds? Her future husband has yet to attend any state "tiara" events and with his flying schedule i don't think we will see it any time soon.

Well Said!

[muriel]

Originally Posted by MARG

Diana had the use of her family tiara and thus did not need one for her wedding. Both Sarah and Sophie obviously needed one as they did not have a family one to draw on. Both tiara's are and will remain theirs.

Camilla Parker-Bowles received nothing! The Duchess of Cornwall received the Delhi Durbar to wear at her first State Banquet. It was not a wedding gift and whilst she has the use of it for life, it still belongs to the BRF collection as indeed does the Bucheron.

I am appalled that members of this forum, who should know better, can have wild fancies that would see even the Queen divested of her favourite tiara(s) should they take Catherine's fancy! This isn't a lollie scramble at a kids party and Kate will definitely not be appearing inappropriately bejewelled.

Bottom line. It is pretty well accepted that she will receive a tiara for her wedding and use thereafter. It will more likely be something like the Strathmore Rose (an absolute "gem" and historically well worth Restoration for an occasion such as this) or the Scroll if Anne has no further use for it. Further than that, at this moment she has no use for more than one and certainly not one of great import like the Girls of Great Britain or the Vladimir. When would she wear them? For dusting the furniture or weeding the flower beds? Her future husband has yet to attend any State "Tiara" events and with his flying schedule I don't think we will see it any time soon.

Fully agree with you. Catherine can be given access to the strathmore rose, scroll or the fringe tiaras. She really does not need more than one at this stage.