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Old 02-14-2017, 07:52 PM
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Count Paul-Josef von Colloredo-Mannsfeld, Count von Mannsfeld, (b.8 June 1981) [oldest of three children of Hieronymus II, 9th FŁrst von Colloredo-Mannsfeld (b.1949) & his current wife Livia, nee Fuchs (b.1956)] & his wife Elke, nee Taus (b.17 April 1982) had their third son, Paul Josef Gundaccar Maria, on 24 October last year.

A brother for Hieronymus (13-4-2011) & Felix (1-2-2013).

Sources: https://sites.google.com/site/myroya...al-information
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:21 AM
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Original source: Weekend (6-7-2016) the 32 great grandchildren of the late Queen Juliana and prince Bernhard per Nobiliana BAG 2016
According to Weekend nr 7 (22-2-2017) this baby is a girl
Juliana Guillermo and Tao Bodhi have a son and a daughter

Princess Christina (nearly 70) has now two grandsons and two granddaughters
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:32 AM
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Count Franziskus von Seilern und Aspang (b.14 May 1981) [son of Count Johannes von Seilern und Aspang (b.1945) & his wife Elisabeth, nee Countess von GoŽss (b.1957) {herself daughter of Count Zeno von GoŽss (1925-1974) & his wife, Countess Antonie von Enzenberg zum Freyen-und JŲchelsthurm (b.1927)}] & his wife Amelie, nee Brandis (b.19 March 1989) had their second daughter Eleonore, last year.

A sister for Ilona (b.2015).

Source: Descendants of Archduke Johann of Austria


Count Johannes von Meran (b.22 February 1972) [son of Count Franz von Meran (b.1943) & his wife Marie-Elisabeth, nee Countess von Kageneck (b.1945)] & his wife Tara, nee Freeland (b.2 May 1978) had their fourth child last year.

A sibling for Cecilia (b.2009), Heinrich (b.2011) & Georgina (b.2015)


Source: Descendants of Archduke Johann of Austria
  #104  
Old 02-21-2017, 07:51 PM
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Baron Matthaus Mayr von Melnhof (b.1988) [second of four children and younger daughter of Countess Monika von Nostitz-Rieneck (b.1965) & her husband, Baron Friedrich Mayr von Melnhof (b.1952)] & his wife Anna Maria, nee Baroness von Waechter had their first child, Matthaus, last year.


Source: Descendants of Archduke Johann of Austria
Descendants of Archduke Franz Karl of Austria
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Old 02-22-2017, 04:05 AM
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Baron Matthaus Mayr von Melnhof (b.1988) [second of four children and younger daughter of Countess Monika von Nostitz-Rieneck (b.1965) & her husband, Baron Friedrich Mayr von Melnhof (b.1952)] & his wife Anna Maria, nee Baroness von Waechter had their first child, Matthaus, last year.


Source: Descendants of Archduke Johann of Austria
Descendants of Archduke Franz Karl of Austria
Is this Baroness Anna von Waechter maybe daughter of Baron Philipp von Waechter and Princess Anna Gabriella von Schwarzenberg(b.1988)?
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:07 PM
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Maybe she is, I don't know.

Countess Nathalie of Konigsegg-Aulendorff (b.22 November 1991) [oldest of three childrenand only daughter of Count Markus of Konigsegg-Aulendorff (b.1963) & his wife Philippa, nee Countess of Waldburg-Zeil-Hohenems (b.1968) & her husband Georg, Prince von der Leyen und zu Hohengeroldseck (b.27 January 1992) [son of Philipp, Freiherr von Freiberg-Eisenberg; upon adoption by his grandfather Prince von der Leyen und zu Hohengeroldseck (b.1967) & his wife Elisabeth, nee Freiin von Gagern (b.1969)] had their first child, Leo Erwein Philipp Wolfram Hektor Arbogast, last year.

For all young parents' parents it's a debut as grandparents.

Sources: Leyen
Descendants of Archduke Franz Karl of Austria
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Old 04-28-2017, 12:51 PM
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Prince Michael Chavchavadze (*1966), only son of Prince David Chavchavadze (1924-2014), who was the son of Princess Nina of Russia and her husband Prince Paul Chavchavadze, and his second wife Judith Clippinger (1932-1997), and his wife Colleen Margaret Quinn had their first child, David, last year.

Source: Descendants of King Christian IX of Denmark
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:37 AM
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Maddison Brudenell (b.16 May 1994) [daughter of Edwina Hicks (b.1961) {herself daughter of Lady Pamela Mountbatten (b.1929) & her late husband David Hicks (1929-1998)} & her husband Jeremy Brudenell (b.1960)] & her husband Olaoluwa Olamide Modupe-Ojo (b.1991) had their first child, Daphny, this year.

It's the first great-grandchild of Lady Pamela Hicks.

Source: Descendants of Princess Julie von Battenberg
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:41 PM
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Count Matteo von Attems (b.1987) [son of Princess Elisabeth of Windisch-Graetz (b.1951) & her husband Christian Anton, Count von Attems-Gilleis (b.1954)] & his wife Liana, nee Thonet had their second son, Filippo, last year.

A brother for Valentino (b.2013)

Source: Descendants of Archduke Franz Karl of Austria

Eliza Amelia Burnett of Leys (b.1977) [daughter of Fiona Merceder Philipps (b.1951) & her husband James Burnett of Leys (b.1941)] & her partner Azzy Asghar had their second child, Theodore, last year.

A brother for Serena (b.2013)

Source: Descendants of Duke Wilhelm of Nassau
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Old 07-23-2017, 05:55 PM
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Count Louis Antoine de La Rochefoucauld (b.13 February 1988) [oldest of three sons of Guy-Antoine de La Rochefoucauld, Duke of La Roche-Guyon (b.1958) & his wife Yolaine, nee Hauteclocque (b.1961)] & his wife Leonie, nee von Abendroth had their first child, Alexandre, last year.

Source: La Rochefoucauld

Clement d'Harcourt (b.1976) [youngest of five children of Michel d'Harcourt (b.1929)& his wife Charlotte, nee de Laminne de Bex (1934-2017)] & his wife Virginie, nee de Clermont-Tonnerre (b.1 August 1978) [eldest ofsix children of Philippe de Clermont-Tonnerre (b.1953) & his wife Adelyse, nee Countess d'Aigneaux (b.1955)] had their first child, Eloi, last year (after 14 years of marriage)

Source: Harcourt
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Old 07-26-2017, 08:07 PM
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Count Kristian Kinsky, who turned 41 twenty-two days ago [son of Count Franz Kinsky (b.1947) & his wife Martina, nee Forejt (b.1947)] & his wife Hana, nee Novakowa (b.8 April 1979) had their second daughter, Marie Antonie in Hradec Kralove last year.

A sister for Marie Sofie (b.2015).

Source: Kinsky

Don Valerio Massimo (b.10 December 1973) [firstborn child of Stefano Massimo, Prince of Rocaseca dei Volsci (b.1955) & his first wife, Atalanta Foxwell (b.1956)] & his wife Alexandra, nee Owens (b.7 February 1979) had their first child, Lelio, in London on 3 November last year.

Source: http://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/massimo.html

Prince Ivan Shakhovsky [son of Prince Dmitri Shakhovsky (b.1935) & his late first wife Natalia Alexandrovna Egorov (1944-1989)] & his wife Anastasia, nee Princess Chavchavadse had their third child, Nikolai, last year.

A brother for Danill & Anna.

Source: http://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha...hakhovsky.html
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Old 08-20-2017, 05:23 AM
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Countess Anna-Maria von Wedel (b.1988) [daughter of Baroness Maria Annunciata von Loe (b.1963) & her husband, Count Ico von Wedel (b.1961)] & her husband Friedrich von Jagwitz had their second daughter, Rita, last year.

A sister for Maria (b.2014)

Source: Descendants of Archduke Franz Karl of Austria
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Old 09-18-2017, 02:24 PM
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Two great-granddaughters of Princess Klementine of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (1897-1975) & her husband Edward von Heller (1877-1970), sisters, [granddaughters of Amelie von Heller (b.1927) & her husband Felice Nicolis (b.1926), daughters of Maurizio Nicolis (b.1951) & his wife Emmanuela, nee Greppi (b.1954) have become mothers last year:

Francesca Nicolis (b.1981) & her husband Giacomo Bonificio Moroni had their third child, Edmee, last year.

A sister for Mali (b.2013) & Pietro Clemente (b.2015)

Constanza Nicolis (b.1982) & her husband Matteo Trabattoni (b.1980) had their first child, Giulio, last year.

Their sister Benedetta Nicolis (b.1986) married Tomasso Poggiani (b.1984) in 2012; their brother Leone (b.1997) is single.

Source: Descendants of King Louis Philippe I of the French
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:30 AM
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Philipp Eisenbach (b.1979) [youngest of three sons of Georg Michael Eisenbach (b.1942) {himself firstborn son of Countess Elisabeth of Stolberg-Stolberg (1918-2007) & oldewst of three by her first husband Walther Eisenbach (1906-1944)} & his wife Barbara, nee Kitzlinger (b.1942)] & his wife Bianca, nee Fahlbusch (b.1980) had their second son, Johann Henri, last year.

A brother for Moritz Fritz (b.2013).

Source: Descendants of Prince Heinrich XIII Reuss of Greiz
  #115  
Old 10-14-2017, 06:44 PM
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Prince Nikolaus of Lobkowicz (b.15 September 1978) [firstborn child of Prince Johannes of Lobkowicz (b.1954) & his wife Johanna, nee Countess of Castell-Castell (b.1952)] & his wife Teresa, nee Achammer (b.12 November 1984) had their fifth son, Felix, on 26 April last year.

Brothers for Johannes (14-11-2010), Ferdinand (6-7-2012) & twins Alois and Moric (3-4-2014).

Really boy-makers!

Source: Lobkowicz
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:13 AM
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Count Paul-Josef von Colloredo-Mannsfeld, Count von Mannsfeld, (b.8 June 1981) [oldest of three children of Hieronymus II, 9th FŁrst von Colloredo-Mannsfeld (b.1949) & his current wife Livia, nee Fuchs (b.1956)] & his wife Elke, nee Taus (b.17 April 1982) had their third son, Paul Josef Gundaccar Maria, last year.

A brother for Hieronymus (13-4-2011) & Felix (1-2-2013).

Sources: https://sites.google.com/site/myroya...al-information
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Viscountess Weymouth, wife of Viscount Weymouth, son and heir of the Marquess of Bath, had a son (by a surrogate mother) the Hon Henry Richard Isaac Thynn, born at Beverly Hills, California, USA, 30 Dec, 2016.

A brother for John Alexander Ladi (26-10-2014)

Sources: http://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2017...nn-b-2016.html
http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk...s/209842/thynn
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...h-aristocracy/

"The couple (...) used surrogacy after the 30-year-old was diagnosed with a bleed on the brain and a disorder with her pituitary gland during her first pregnancy.
Doctors warned her a second pregnancy could kill her.
The illness left her crippled with pain and meant the baby was delivered by Caesarean section three weeks early in October.


Iím wondering about this. What r the laws about surrogacy and legitimacy in the line of succession not noble but royal. Iím sure the baby is their biological but somebody carried it for them. Has this ever happened before where a surrogate child was in line for any succession?
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:53 AM
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Iím wondering about this. What r the laws about surrogacy and legitimacy in the line of succession not noble but royal. Iím sure the baby is their biological but somebody carried it for them. Has this ever happened before where a surrogate child was in line for any succession?
This is not a situation which has arisen before now. So it's something that would have to be tested in the courts. I think that baby Thynn has right to be call Lord Henry, but doesn't have place in the line of succession (as legally adopted children). By British Laws his legal mother is his surrogate mother.
This discussion might be interesting for you:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ws/A46XTizKgeQ
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:03 AM
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This is not a situation which has arisen before now. So it's something that would have to be tested in the courts. I think that baby Thynn has right to be call Lord Henry, but doesn't have place in the line of succession (as legally adopted children). By British Laws his legal mother is his surrogate mother.
This discussion might be interesting for you:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ws/A46XTizKgeQ


That is interesting. With all the laws they talk about I wonder if this will change things in the future.
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:14 AM
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That is interesting. With all the laws they talk about I wonder if this will change things in the future.
I don't think so.
It's important to have very clear, indisputable line of succession, especially to a throne.
Surrogacy allows to have 5 children from different women in different countries at the same time. Total lack of control.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:35 PM
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Xenia Brandolini d'Adda [dei conti di Valmareno] (b.1985) [only child of Count Leonello Brandolini d'Adda [dei conti di Valmareno] (b.1950) {himself second of four sons of Cristina Agnelli (b.1928) & her late husband, Brandolino, Count Brandolini d'Adda, Count di Valmareno (1918-2005)} & his wife Maria, nee Sala] & her boyfriend Kevin Perret had their first child, Matteo, last year.

Source: Descendants of Giovanni Agnelli and Clara Boselli

Update: the youngest child of Count Johannes & Countess Tara of Meran is a girl and is named Tatiana.

Source: as above.
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