Saudi Princesses


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Whatever their life is like at home anyone who has ever been in a shop when the Saudi princesses arrive knows they enjoy their freedoms when away from home.
 
You bet. She. They are away they can live ad they wish. They. Have written about it. Please, shoe pictures of women alone shopping in public and uncovered. American service women dislike having to cover, in SA. Too many books by Saudi women, princesses and others who have been there recently, report the same. It is fine you to like or defend your situation, we know better than to believe the propaganda. There are photos of your cities and all the women are shrouded. We from tbr west find being aless than a full citizen is repugnant. Why do you have religious police squads?
 
as always i find posts that not related to the subject
so, continue your discussion :D

:whistling: you are right, but what can someone write about Saudi princesses when life in KSA alone is so interesting to outsiders......
 
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:whistling: you are right, but what can you write about Saudi princesses when life in KSA alone is so interesting to outsiders......
What can you write about their life in KSA when it is hidden behind palace walls? They are not like European or even Jordanian princesses who live their lives in the public eye. We only see them when they are on shopping trips, loading up on couture in Western capitals.
 
What can you write about their life in KSA when it is hidden behind palace walls? They are not like European or even Jordanian princesses who live their lives in the public eye. We only see them when they are on shopping trips, loading up on couture in Western capitals.

Of course, but you understand me wrong. My comment was reffering to the life of Saudi women in general.
 
What I read on this site is no doubt written by an uninformed busybody' therefore it sounds as if those Saudi princesses who do some designer shopping amongst other things while in the West, as one does, are Western-designer-ware starved. I want to clarify those couture-shopping trips somewhat.
Fact: Long before spring, summer autumn and winter collections of Europes latest designer ware is actually sold in Europe, those same new models are already worn by Saudi royalties in their country and the same goes for the latest models of designer jewellery and watches. Representatives of those designer-firms travell regulary four times a year to meet with Saudis royals and other VIP families, showing their wares of whats to come and taking orders which often include wedding dresses and also the wardrobe for all ladies who wear western clothes of the bride or the groom. And of course we must not forget the children's outfits for su8ch an occasion. And the same goes for the rest of wealthy Arab countries. Those representatives also used to travel to Iraq to meet with Saddam Hussain's clan but as we know today Iraq is a battlefield thanks to Western intervention.
 
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Lovely. Welcome to the forum.

What do you think is her point, Scooter? That they are just some women who are interested in Western Couture, which they could never wear at home or, are they very spoiled women who can indulge themselves at the cost of many and can do what most of their fellow citizens hide beneath their abayas, however it is spelled, except in very private places and among women only.
 
The current discussion has very little to do with the specific topic of "Saudi Princesses".

However, following the ongoing success of the Cultural Traditions in the UAE/Gulf States thread in expanding members' knowledge and understanding (and maybe even breaking down some stereotypes), those posts have been moved to a new thread in Members' Corner, The Role of Women in the Saudi Kingdom.

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Saudi princess appeared . Princess Dina Abdel Aziz , The Wife of " Prince Abdulaziz bin Nasser AL-Saud " Attended among those present at Fashion New York week , known for Princess she is interested in fashion and style .


Pics Of Princess Dina Abdel-Aaziz
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Nice woman! How old is she?

Sorry I have no Idea how old are she ,, All what I Know is Deena Abdulaziz is no ordinary princess, she is a Saudi Arabian deity of style. Dividing her time between New York and her native Riyadh, this globetrotting mother of three is climbing today’s fashion ranks as the new cross-cultural ambassadress of East-meets-West style.

True, her wedding dress was designed by Azzedine AlaÏa and Christian Louboutin named a shoe after her, but Abdulaziz doesn't just look fabulous, she helps others look fabulous, too. In 2006 she opened her own museum-like boutique, DNA, in her hometown of Riyadh.
Her very own boutiques website is http://www.dnariyadh.com/
She is said to be the wife of the son of Prince Nasser Bin Abdulaziz, hence taking on his name and receiving the title of princess. Apparently her real name is Deena Ali Al-Jahni, daughter of the ex-minister of Telecommunications in the KSA.

I don't really know much more about her, however from the looks of it she does seem to be a very elegant lady with a great sense of fashion

Pics of her
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9- http://arabic.rt.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=26095&d=1332865106
10 - http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b2yHQ4agv.../Princess+Deena+Abdulaziz+mary+katrantzou.jpg
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A Saudi Arabian princess is the victim of a blackmail attempt involving a video of her that could anger and shock the establishment in the hardline Islamic state.

Princess Basmah bint Saud bin Abdulaziz al Saud - more commonly known as Princess Basmah - is being held to ransom by a man who plans to embarrass her with a video - if she does not pay him £320,000.

The video shows her blowing a kiss and smoking with her head uncovered - taboos in strict Saudi Arabia

But rather than bow to the demands of the man, London-based Princess Basmah, who campaigns for human rights in the kingdom, has exposed the extortion attempt on her website and through social media channels.

The plot began while Princess Basmah was on holiday at Christmas at The Gleneagles Hotel in Scotland, according to The Daily Telegraph.

She received a message on Facebook from a man claiming to be a friend, who she refuses to name but described as a sheikh in his 30s from the United Arab Emirates.

Princess Basmah: 'Fake Sheikh wants money for video which shows her smoking with head uncovered' | Mail Online
 
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Good for her. She is acting as a person should. And if her nation thinks she should not do these things, perhaps, they might enter the 21st century, where women shuch as she can live normal and happy lives, not controlled by ancient views.
 
A video of a woman blowing a kiss and smoking is considered scandalous? And I thought Armenia is a conservative country!
Good for Basmah for standing the vile man.
 
Hello Sheikha Deena, I'm pleased you show the world what a real Middle Eastern Princess is all about. < ed Warren >
 
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Oh, right and all the American, women, who have served in Saudi Arabia are hoaxes, too. And it is a wonderful open society, that allows women to walk the street in any garb they want or to drive cars or travel? The hoax is anyone who, believes that women, in the kingdom have right to do what they wish and live their lives, instead of having to live with archaic laws that forbid them from doing what they wish.

Oh, there is a p.s. to this. Friedrike was abused by the American Publishing system, for which I cannot speak, but she has a personal axe to grind and does no justice to those who live their daily lives in the kingdom. As for the" miserable", life of the princess, I never got that impression.They live incredible lives.
 
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she's Deena Al Juhani, she got married to member of the royal family,grandson of prince Nasser bin Abdulaziz
they have Maya, Abdulaziz, Meshal
 
Good for her. She is acting as a person should. And if her nation thinks she should not do these things, perhaps, they might enter the 21st century, where women shuch as she can live normal and happy lives, not controlled by ancient views.

A video of a woman blowing a kiss and smoking is considered scandalous? And I thought Armenia is a conservative country!

Oh, right and all the American, women, who have served in Saudi Arabia are hoaxes, too. And it is a wonderful open society, that allows women to walk the street in any garb they want or to drive cars or travel? The hoax is anyone who, believes that women, in the kingdom have right to do what they wish and live their lives, instead of having to live with archaic laws that forbid them from doing what they wish.

It is easy to judge others life from your own point of view. Especially when such statements serve to superelevate your own culture - as if there were no irregularities in it. It is one step further, if one recognizes that there are different values ​​in different cultures.

Princesses or princes are ambassadors of the values ​​of their country - in a figurative sense. Also privately they are constantly in the public spotlight, and their behavior has a significance for the country that they represent.
 
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Luxury goods worth more than £11 million are to be seized from a Saudi princess to pay her shopping bills, a Paris judge ordered today.
Maha Al-Sudairi, who was once married to the country’s late Crown Prince, helped herself to millions of pounds worth of goods whenever she visited the French capital.
As well as art works and jewellery, they included £5,500 worth of luxury chocolates, and £1.4m on the hire of two Rolls Royce Phantoms and ‘around 30 chauffers’ to take her shopping.
Read more: Maha Al-Sudairi: Luxury goods worth £11MILLION seized from Saudi Princess to help pay her extravagant shopping bills | Mail Online
 
i don't know if that has been posted here before:
Princess Sara bint Talal bin Abdulaza Al Saud atten attends the 2012 The Mentor Foundation USA International Gala at Four Seasons Hotel on September 20, 2012 in Washington, DC.
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i wondering if that Sara Talal,whos was nicknamed "little Barbie" because of her beauty and who asked political asylum for herself and for her children in the United Kingdom on 2012.
because Abdulaziz in the first pic,i think this lady Sora, granddaughter of King Abdullah.
 
Amusing, why would anyone think that the Saudis are interested in equity or liberty or Freedom of the press.
 
@ sana:How do people in KSA think about Maha Al-Sudairi? Doesn´t she bring shame to the Royal family, I find it quite strange that she steals so much even though she probably already has a lot of materialistic things in abundance...maybe she is a cleptomaniac? Very strange story at least...if I remember correctly she has already been in the news before with stealing expensive goods in Paris :ermm:

Embarassing....why did nobody of her family or friends help her and stop her from piling up more debts?
Over the past years, up to 30 of Paris's most exclusive luxury goods retailers have fallen foul of her credit notes!

Oh, there is a p.s. to this. Friedrike was abused by the American Publishing system, for which I cannot speak, but she has a personal axe to grind and does no justice to those who live their daily lives in the kingdom. As for the" miserable", life of the princess, I never got that impression.They live incredible lives.

Yes...but of course as an American you are a hoax *lol*
There are many ppl who feel discriminated and treated unfairly but do not bother to discriminate others or take a minute to question their own stereotypes...

I have lived close to the Saudi embassy in Vienna and met many women who were happy to be out of KSA-most of them were well-educated and most were stay-at-home-moms who looked after their children & family. They seemed to enjoy the life that they found in Vienna-they still had to wear a black abaya and the ladies covered everything except their faces when in public,but they can drive,go out to meet their female friends,attend a concert or watch a movie in the cinemas without any restrictions.
They told me that they are happy with their life, except that they sometimes miss their bigger family and some special Saudi food;-)

Of course I never met any of the Saudi princesses,but I feel that from seeing them at official events or talking at public political forums,they enjoy having less restrictions and being able to make their own thoughts and opinions known.
 
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I am sure the female members of any Saudi Family enjoy the rare taste of freedom engendered by living elsewhere.
 
Yes...but of course as an American you are a hoax *lol*
There are many ppl who feel discriminated and treated unfairly but do not bother to discriminate others or take a minute to question their own stereotypes...

I have lived close to the Saudi embassy in Vienna and met many women who were happy to be out of KSA-most of them were well-educated and most were stay-at-home-moms who looked after their children & family. They seemed to enjoy the life that they found in Vienna-they still had to wear a black abaya and the ladies covered everything except their faces when in public,but they can drive,go out to meet their female friends,attend a concert or watch a movie in the cinemas without any restrictions.
They told me that they are happy with their life, except that they sometimes miss their bigger family and some special Saudi food;-)

Of course I never met any of the Saudi princesses,but I feel that from seeing them at official events or talking at public political forums,they enjoy having less restrictions and being able to make their own thoughts and opinions known.

You confuse me. American are not a Hoax. And, yes, we have discrimination, but we talk about it, publicize it and are often disgusted with it. And, certainly, not acceptable, especially women.

The rest is observation on your part, of those connected with the Embassy. You have no idea how many women navigate their lives in the KS. Women deserve the same freedoms as their counterparts. I, think, without your American prejudice, we agree on many things.
 
Sorry that I did not make myself clear, I was just ironical because a lot of Arabs immediately believe that Westerners are biased and discriminate them and do not know anything about their culture (or the life of women in KSA in this case).
You should know how many ppl are surprised,no,rather shocked,if you can speak a few words Arabic or know about the Quran,their history and other cultural topics;-)
I find that quite annoying because everyone here on this forum has a different cultural,personal and religious background, but for some people it is difficult to see the other people´s perspective and look behind their own stereotypes.Because we have all been a little bit brainwashed by the media and political propaganda in certain ways-Arabs and Westerners alike,but we should try to see the things more clearly and figure out what is just a rumour and what is true.
For instance, I accept that Muslims and people from other places in the world have different views on women-they would like to see them in traditional clothes and without wearing any tight or revealing clothes in public(which I also do not wish to see because I am rather conservative).
There are other expectations and ideas about women that I do not share, but I respect,e.g that many Arabs wish that women are only mothers and not have careers or at least work part-time if they have family, like we expect from women in Western nations...
Every system has its flaws and its good sides, but there are some things that I cannot accept: Like banning women from driving or not allowing them to go to work or university if they wish to do so....& many other things that we take for granted in democratic countries.
Saying that women in KSA have equal rights is quite naive - maybe you could say that about women in Lebanon,Morocco or Jordan and other Arab nations, but certainly not in such a traditional and often quite restrictive society.
 
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You could say that the Saudi women were closed years ago but now it's changed. Women were always able to go to school and university throughout the Kingdom. Women could work, go out, go to cinemas and the malls. It's a choice that women didn't want to make like work and finish their education because they got married. You have a lot of women who are CEO's of companies in Saudi and have won awards, top research DR's who are women who lead labs in the United States.

King Abdullah's daughter hold the biggest women forum in Saudi Arabia yearly which you can find pictures of her in the Arabic newspapers and magazines. Sadly many of the events don't make it to the foreign news agencies. Moreover, you have Loulwa al Faisal who is an active Saudi Princess for the past 8 years. She also attends the WEF.
 
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