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Old 08-17-2015, 12:39 PM
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At the same time the Fürst and his son, the Erbprinz, indeed maybe will say: "No thank you, we have an almost 1000-years old family business to run, we have no time for a hopeless Romanian operetta. It will only damage our businesses."




That would indeed proof they´re not suited and unfit for a throne!
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:24 PM
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That would indeed proof they´re not suited and unfit for a throne!
Why? Because they possibly make a strategic assessment of the situation and maybe conclude that Romania is, like Germany, a democratic society with an elected president and most likely never will return to a monarchy? Secondly, IF the Romanians return to the monarchy, will they then follow the michaelist line or the constitutional one and ask the Hohenzollerns?

Interesting... When the outcome of the named strategic assessment learns that there are no prospects for a restoration in Romania and therefore the focus should remain on the own Hohenzollern interests, then "that would indeed proof that they are not suited and unfit for a throne"????

Aha... but when the outcome of the same assessment would be to take "the Romanian project" serious and see it as a challenge, then suddenly the same Fürst and Erbprinz are suited and fit for a throne????

Really... your way of thinking needs acrobatic flik-flaks to find any logic...

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Old 08-22-2015, 06:37 AM
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The Hohenzollerns must see first they have supporters among the royalists in Romania (and they have) and than decide which Prince of their Line would accept to move to Romania and continue the Royal House oh Hohenzollern in the country. It is not compulsory Prince Karl or his son become the new Heads of the Royal House but they can give this opportunity for other Hohenzolern Prince of their Line.
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There is a clear division among the royalists between those who are Legitimists and support the Hohenzollerns Succession and those who continue to support the female descendants of the King.
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Old 09-07-2015, 05:44 PM
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HH Prince Karl (Carol) of Hohenzollern and his son HSH Hereditary Prince Alexander, the future Successors to the Romanian Throne:

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Old 09-12-2015, 11:42 AM
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The Hohenzollerns must see first they have supporters among the royalists in Romania (and they have) and than decide which Prince of their Line would accept to move to Romania and continue the Royal House oh Hohenzollern in the country. It is not compulsory Prince Karl or his son become the new Heads of the Royal House but they can give this opportunity for other Hohenzolern Prince of their Line.
So sad! It's too bad that it all had to come down to this.
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Old 09-12-2015, 04:09 PM
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If the Hohenzollerns will accept the Succession we will have very good news.
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Old 09-12-2015, 04:18 PM
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But to accept you should make a proposal. The question is who? King Mihai (no way) or the president of romania (also imagine no way).
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Old 09-12-2015, 04:25 PM
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The King won't make any such proposal because he accepted what his Family wanted in 2007.
The president has nothing to do with the Succession to the throne.
The Royalists' Associations should ask officially the Hohenzollerns to accept the Succession.
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Old 09-12-2015, 04:42 PM
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The Romanian government allowed the king Mihai to return, also returned to the royal palaces. Royalists Associations what power would make such a proposal?
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Old 09-12-2015, 07:03 PM
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We are speaking about the Succession to the Throne not about the King's private properties here.
The government is not interested in such issues I presume.
The support of the Romanian royalists is essential for the Hohenzollerns.
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Old 09-13-2015, 04:16 AM
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You said that the Royalists' Associations should ask officially the Hohenzollerns to accept the Succession. Hypothetically speaking always (as we all do here) a do and what Hohenzollern accept then what? This is my question. There should be some support from the official romania.
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Old 09-13-2015, 02:26 PM
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What do you mean by "official Romania"?
It is obvious the Hohenzollerns needs supporters if they want to restore the Monarchy.
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Old 09-14-2015, 11:38 AM
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I'm still reeling from the news about King Michael's decision to change the house rules. Without knowing the reasons for it and the positions of the main actors, I can't have an opinion on the fors and againsts of it. However, I am really sad that the progress made over the last few years towards the return of the monarchy in Romania has been undermined. It is my fear that the unseemly free-for-all among the various factions - be they partisans of King Michael, Nicholas, the Hohenzollerns or the Lambrinos - will ensure that the monarchy will never be restored.
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:13 PM
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There are only the supporters of the Hohenzollerns (those who really want the restoration of Monarchy) and some supporters ( who do not want to oppose any decision of Elisabeta Pakace) of the female descendants of the King. Many of those that supported strongly Mr Medforth Mills support now the Hohenzollerns. Unfortunately we do not have clear percentages regarding how many support the legitimist Line and how many support the female descendants of the King.
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Cory, do you have any evidence that the many Romanian people who supported and still support Prince Nicholas have, in the space of a month, suddenly switched their allegiance to the Furst von Hohenzollern?
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Old 09-17-2015, 09:43 AM
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I spoke with many of them and this is the case. It is very difficult however to know really how many people support the House of Hohenzollern because there is no poll for the moment regarding this issue.
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Old 09-17-2015, 12:17 PM
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Because you said that you spoke to many of them completely exclude the fact Nicolae return again perhaps when the Μargarira take the reins of the monarchy.
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it is out of question that nicolas will be restored after the king dies. Margarita has never been an active/initiative-taking royal and she will hardly be so later.
And as if she and her husband didnt know he is being kicked out, and just kept quiet out of deference for the old man, planning to set things straight when he s gone.
For gods sake, thats playing with a young mans life...
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Old 09-17-2015, 04:08 PM
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I seriously feel nobody in the romanian RF is interested in restoration. None of the kings daughters seem to be groomed for active public life. The heiress owes most of her 'popularity' to general sympathy for her ill health and childlessness. Come on, 4 daughters is a bumper bonus in royalty, and all u got to depend on is a politically ambitious, polarising son in law.. Its a pity.. We praise QueenMother n Queen Ingrid for raising brilliant regnants, unfortunately it reflects very poorly on Queen Anne that none of the princesses are inspiring enough. Even Maria of Russia runs a better show than them.
And the King only worsened things by changing laws/traditions on his whim n fancy. Change is ok but they should have a vision and strategy for that.
Unfortunately this couple didnt bother for that, and now they are totally lost. I think now his brothers family cant care less about what happens to the crown.

PS This may sound harsh and judgemental. But these are just some practical observations
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