Romanian Noble and Princely Families


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There are different theories regarding the origin of the Basarabs.
 
No descendant of the noble /ancient families seem to be among the King's advisers anymore.
 
Cory said:
No descendant of the noble /ancient families seem to be among the King's advisers anymore.
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Out of curiosity, have these families ever been represented amongst the advisors of King Michael?
 
Benjamin said:
Out of curiosity, have these families ever been represented amongst the advisors of King Michael?
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Constantin Brancoveanu Basarab was one of the advisers of the Sovereign working for the the King. Alexandru Paleologu was a close adviser too.
 
Some of the Sovereign Princes like Stephen the Great of Moldova and Neagoie Basarab of Wallacchia were canonized by the Orthodox Church.
 
Genealogy of the Families related to the Ghykas:

Famille Ghika
 
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On the 5th of March there will be a Conference about Princess Martha Bibescu delivered by Oana Marinache in the Concert Hall of Peles Castle. The event is a part of the celebrations of 130 since the birth of the late Princess.
 
On the 27th of February at 5 pm a new book will presented to the public at Humanitas Bookshop near Cismigiu in Bucharest: " Artistocrats in Proust's World" by Mihai Dim. Sturdza. The book speaks about Princess Martha Bibescu and her cousins Antoine Bibescu, Anna de Noailles and Elena Bibescu.
 
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What a Furniture.
on March 18th there was an Auction in Cannes at Pichon& Noudel Deniau. they sold the Furniture and the Souvenirs Historiques -Art Russe - Collection de la Princess Hazel Ghika(1882-1951).

Hazel Paliner-Singer from Chicago came in France with her parents in 1890 and marries in 1901 Prince Jean Ghika, from one of the oldest roumanian familes. They lived in Cannes at the vlla Primavera. The Prince died in 1922 but the Princess did a lot for Charities and for Cannes also during WW Ii.
They had a daughter Alexandra who married Cmmandant Paul Louis Weiler.

The estimation princes wre very low . I did myself a bid for :
Picture of Princess Ghika estimation 50/80 euros sold 550 euros withour %

Here the highlights :
Painting Princess Gkiha's Mother Mrs Singer(Charles Pearce ) estimation 2000/3000 sold 33.000 euros.
Royal Decorated Office Seat of King Carol Ier : wood , silver, leather estimation 3000/5000
sold 80.000 euros
A lot letters old photograhic pictures of Queen Elisabeth, Queen Marie , King Ferdinand Ier, King Carol, Queen Helena , sold from 250 to 400 euros. some more. You may do and see on internet

Queen Marie silver Cross 3000 euros- Watch in gold 1.200 euros, Cigarette box in silver with crown and M 1.500 euros. Their estimation was higher
Picture of Queen Marie at Pelesh with frame and date 1895 estimation 200/300
sold 9.000 euros
King Carol estimation 100/150 sold 1800 euros
Queen Helen photographic and signed pictures between 500 /250 euros
Icones : high estimation but badly sold.

There is still interest for Nobel and Royal Items but a King's Seat 80.000 euros is a great amount.

I am sure King Michael and Queen Anne still have a lot of Souvenirs Hstoriques . I don't know for their furniture and paintings.
 
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The encyclopedia of noble families of a romanian origin in Maramureș county:

Editura Eikon
 
Which members of the old aristocratic Romanian Families will attend Queen Ana's Funerals?
 
Dimitrie Sturdza served as prime minister of Romania four times: 1895-96, 1897-99, 1901-04, and 1907-1908.
 
The Exhibition in Bucharest dedicated to 130 years since the birth of Princess Martha Lahovary Bibescu is a great success.
 
A Count of Romania?

Hello all! I am new to the forum, and have a life-long interest in Royal families world-wide. Today I have a rather strange question regarding Romanian nobility. Perhaps someone with knowledge of Romanian aristocracy will have an idea for me!

When I was 18 years old (1979) I went to Munich, Germany to work as an au pair with a German family. One summer evening, shortly after I'd arrived, I was stopped on the street by a very well-dressed gentleman who asked me the way to the U-bahn stop. He spoke to me in German and I responded in German, though it was clear that it was not his native language. I showed him where the stop was located and he asked me if I'd like to meet for dinner later that evening. I agreed.

We had dinner at an outdoor cafe along one of Munich's broad streets. He told me that he was a Count, originally from Romania. I believe he said that "count" was not exactly the correct term for his title, but it is what we would call it in English. He was very refined and obviously had money, so I tended to believe him, though of course I was skeptical. Since I spoke no Romanian and he very little English, we conversed in German. I remember he told me he could speak French, but my French was weak.

After a lovely dinner and a long and friendly discussion, we went for a walk along the row of shops that lined the avenue. He ushered me into a women's clothing shop and insisted on me trying on various tops, hats, scarves and he bought several items for me, though I protested, thinking "oh boy, he's going to want some pay-back for this!"

We stopped at a jewelry shop and he bought me an exquisite necklace, an aquamarine stone with tiny diamonds on either side. Again I protested, but he poo-pooed me and said that it was his pleasure and was only a thank-you for a pleasant dinner companion.

Needless to say, I was nervous when he escorted me back to my apartment (I did not live with the family for whom I was working) and insisted on going up to my floor. I unlocked the door and turned, prepared to be firm and tell him that he could not come in. I hadn't said a word when he simply took my hand, kissed the back of it, kissed my wrist and said "it has been a most wonderful evening, thank-you", and he left!

As you can probably guess, I'm trying to find out who this gentleman may have been! As I said, it was 1979 and I was 18. He was older than me, but I would say in is twenties or early thirties. He did tell me his name at the time and the name of his home in Romania, but of course I've forgotten. He mentioned waiting out the "course of history" to be able to reclaim the family residence and told me of all the countries he had lived in over the years.

Anyone have a clue as to who this mysterious Romanian Count may have been? It is a treasured memory of mine, and I would love to know.

Can't wait to see if anyone has a thought on this!
Kat
 
Ioan Cuza

andrew said:
Actually Alexandru Ioan Cuza had no legitimate descendants, only two illegitimate sons, who died fairly young: Alexandru and Dumitru. Their mother was Elena Catargi.
Her legitimate wife, she was also called Elena, was related to the noble families of Sturdza, Bals and Cantacuzino. But unfortunately she couldn't bear him a child.
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I have a question regarding the parents of Alexandru Ioan Cuza, namely Ioan Cuza and Soltana (of the noble family) Cozadini. Do you - or does someone else perhaps - know the exact dates and places where they were both born, died and got married?
 
Aww, 15 months later and no response on my Romanian Count? Surely someone is familiar with Romanian nobility? Anyone?
 
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Aww, 15 months later and no response on my Romanian Count? Surely someone is familiar with Romanian nobility? Anyone?
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The Romanians do not have a comparable system of Nobility (Peerage) with West-European countries, consisting of Dukes, Marquesses, Counts, Viscounts, Barons and Knights.

The reason is simple: there was no King of Romania conferring titles of Nobility. The Romanian Nobles with comparable titles have been created by the Holy Roman Empire, by the Emperor of Austria/King of Hungary, by the Tsar of Russia and by the King of Poland.

For a major part of it's history Romania was Russian (Moldova) or Austria-Hungarian (Transylvania). The current Royal House of Romania is only from 1881 and is a junior branch of the German princely House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen. In this short existence it saw the Russian Revolution of 1917, the toppling of the Russian, Austria-Hungarian and German thrones. Finally in 1947 the monarchy was toppled by the Communists.

In this short period (less than 70 turbulent years with two World Wars, revolutions and a Communist coup) no own Peerage of Romania has been established. There certainly are castles and domains in Romania, but the original owners all were ennobled in a foreign peerage, the royal family included. Only on May 10th 2011 King Michael and his five daughters denounced their German princely rank, style, surname and title. Since then the family holds the surname De Roumanie, with the title Prince (Princess) of Romania and the prefix HRH.

We can say they are the sole Romanian création.
 
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